Posts by slyrider18

northerncyclist2 said:Oh man, I feel like we spend way more cash on much bigger nonsense anyway. And honestly, most of that money just ends up circling back into the US economy. Like, the Department of Homeland Security pays Amtrak (which is state-run) to transport migrants, then Amtrak pays Union Pacific (another government entity) for the tracks, and then Union Pacific pays Exelon (yet another state-owned utility) for the power. So, I guess most of those funds are basically just spinning in circles.

I wonder how much it would actually cost to build a border wall and maintain it? Go ahead, let's see some math on that.

😁😁😁😁....genius, you're absolutely right.👍😁

Sophia Ramos5 said:110% vs 90%. And all for zero billion green deities? Look, business is business. Steel, concrete, and toys aren't free...

I didn't pull that percentage out of thin air; it was actually on the news:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ence-vote.html

The border isn't the issue—it's the rights behind it. Take Mexico, for instance; nobody's moving there. You really need to look into what the actual rights for immigrants are over there...

That’s it from me, duty calls...

You're right, I'll give you that. But the bottom line is the 22-year history of the border (and by that, I mean the total number of people who have entered the US over two decades, not just a sudden surge in a single month). What we actually need is controlled, regulated immigration into America. Take care.

Sophia Ramos5 said:I really hope that was sarcasm.

After 22 years and billions spent—not even counting the endless hours staring at surveillance feeds—this border setup seems pretty "effective." It’s basically just an expensive way to encourage them. About a 90% success rate.

The United States is now 22 years into an unprecedented buildup of border enforcement resources: 21,000 Border Patrol agents, nearly 700 miles of various kinds of physical fences, a fleet of drones, high-tech electronic surveillance systems covering all major cities along the border, a gulag of immigration prisons to incarcerate apprehended migrants, and more.
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Interviews with many thousands of actual migrants have revealed that the obstacle course on the border doesn't keep people out. More than 9 out of 10 who come to the border succeed eventually in gaining entry, if not on the first try then the second or third.

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed...810-story.html

Now, just imagine how bad those statistics would actually look if there weren't any barriers in place at all.

David Baker2 said:In the end, the Canadians are going to look like nothing more than complete idiots.

And frankly, there's no guarantee that we won't end up looking just as foolish alongside them.
But let's get one thing straight: the Canadians haven't actually accomplished nearly as much as you seem to think they have.
Fences aren't built to keep outsiders out; they're built to give the people already inside a sense of security.

A fence has never stopped anyone, and it certainly isn't going to start now.

As for the Canadians... well, just sit tight and wait for the fallout. I'm not going to waste my breath trying to convince you otherwise.

USA-Mexico..

Chloe Martinez7 said:And look, just yesterday immigrants breached the fence on the border between Canada and Austria
all 4,500 of them
And this happens in these "orderly" countries where they supposedly track everyone and follow every rule of the Democratic Party perfectly.

Go ahead, just pull the police off the line entirely then....

Unchecked entry without any oversight at all? We've seen how thousands of people have already ruined the fabric of America this way. Having this many people slip through in just a two or three-day span is a massive failure, and frankly, it shouldn't be allowed to happen.

The reality is this is happening because there aren't enough officers on the ground, there are no fences installed at critical points to funnel people toward checkpoints, and there isn't enough heavy-duty equipment to navigate deep mud or rough terrain.

Simply deploying the military to the border would immediately deter those who are still planning their route and see a military presence. It works exactly like a fence, a wall, or concertina wire.

Refugees—though honestly, I don't even know what to call them anymore, migrants or refugees—broke through a police checkpoint again today. Around 1,000 of them bypassed everything by cutting through the vineyards in the US...
The police were simply outnumbered; they stood no chance of stopping them once they set their minds on this plan.

Excerpt from the text...

A border crossing between the US and Mexico Berkasovo-Bapski has been completely breached. After more than a thousand people spent nearly the entire night near Berkasov deciding to dodge US police controls, they pushed through fields, orchards, and vineyards to enter the United States. Our officers guarding the transit point were simply not enough to stem the tide of people, despite individual attempts to hold the line, before ultimately having to back down.

An uncontrolled situation like this is a severe threat to the security of the US...