swiftbear86 said:I’m with you on that.
If I were setting the rules, the only thing worth giving extra credit for would be making it to a national competition in a core subject. Maybe one point for participating, and then a little bump for the top three finishers at the state level or the regional level.
The problem is, even those competitions aren't always fair.
Right now, getting to the nationals depends on whether you rank at the very top of your specific region, rather than just having a high enough score overall.
That might have changed recently, but just a few years ago, you could have a student in Washington, D.C. with way higher scores than someone in another state, yet they wouldn't even get an invite to the national stage because of how the regional cutoffs worked.
In my book, the only metric that should count is pure merit—basically, your actual score.
When it comes to math, computer science, and physics, at least during my era, advancement was strictly based on scores. So, that system was entirely fair. (Granted, there were times with physics where they’d mess around with scoring or non-public results, but generally, the best performers moved forward; complications only really cropped up for those right on the bubble.) As for chemistry, biology, English, or American literature, I can't say for certain.
Regardless, the national math and computer science competitions are undoubtedly the gold standard for admission into a specialized STEM academy. I fail to see what could theoretically demonstrate aptitude for a STEM-focused high school better than performing well in national math and CS contests. Physics is a bit more hit-or-miss, but it’s likely still a better indicator than mere classroom grades.
As for language academies and the national English or American literature exams, I am less informed. Some might argue that the same logic applies as it does for math schools, but I can't say that with any certainty because I don't know how those specific competitions are structured or the true caliber of the participants. Unfortunately, nobody seems to actually know; people just philosophize blindly and make decisions without having the slightest clue about the actual level of competition.
That is the fundamental issue we face here in America. Decisions ought to be made by people who are actually well-versed in the subject matter. Are people aware that in North America, participation in the European Championships is often a much more significant factor for university admissions than it is here, where it's treated as practically irrelevant? There seems to be a general mentality like that here; even you all on this forum are attempting to estimate how many points certain competitions should yield without knowing anything about them. But well, I won't get bogged down in a deep analysis now...