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Ed Gein sentenced in Psychology ·
Tyler Reyes86 said:So, we’re diving into conspiracy theories now, are we? And you’re claiming that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad actually supports a totally secular Palestine and nothing else? That's quite the take.🤣
By the way, just so we don't drift completely off course—in certain primitive, patriarchal cultures, someone like Jeffrey Dahmer would probably get away with everything.

I honestly don't follow your logic at all, 🤷

The only real "conspiracy" here is the Zionist one—it’s manifesting through an illegal military occupation that's been dragging on for over 60 years. Back in 2004, the International Court of Justice actually ruled in favor of Palestine, ordering the IDF to withdraw, dismantle those illegal settlements, tear down the segregation wall, and pay out compensation for all the damage caused by those war crimes.

Only someone truly disconnected from reality would try to label that as some kind of "conspiracy theory."☕

So, you're claiming Mahmoud Ahmadinejad supports a purely secular Palestine and nothing else?

Last time I checked my facts, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was the President of Iran, not Palestine. So, I'm struggling to see how his politics have anything to do with the Zionist occupation of Palestine that's been going on for more than six decades.🤷

To put it bluntly... you're either talking complete nonsense or you're playing the role of a Zionist apologist... and honestly, they both feel pretty much the same to me!

By the way, just so we don't drift too far off-topic, in certain primitive patriarchal cultures, Josef Fritzl might have gotten away with it quite easily.

Well, all religions are inherently patriarchal and primitive—at least when we're looking at the three desert dogmas stemming from patriarch Abraham.☕
Killing an elephant in Philosophy ·
Mark Torres14 said:It seems a bit illogical to me that there are this many idiots in the world constantly getting played. Maybe there's more to it.
And let's start with the assumption that most people are actually smart.
Your argument is that the problem isn't the technology itself, but the people who don't get how to use it. If everyone understood it, everything would be fine.
Except technology was built to help us. Especially the atomic bomb.😁

They’re irresponsible, really. And if you want to be irresponsible while still maintaining a totally clear conscience, you almost have to be stupid. It’s a choice they make... they opt for irresponsibility, and that comes bundled with a complete lack of foresight.

Let's start from the premise that most people are actually intelligent.

If most people were truly smart, this forum wouldn't be such a magnet for nonsense. Honestly, I don't see any real foundation for that assumption whatsoever.

So, in your view, the core issue isn't the tech itself, but the people who don't grasp how it works. If everyone understood it, everything would be fine.

I wouldn't say EVERYTHING would be perfect, but technology wouldn't pose such a massive threat, and we wouldn't end up becoming slaves to our own inventions.

Because technology was built to help us. Especially the atomic bomb.

Nuclear technology wasn't developed specifically for weaponry. Those who truly grasped the science actually refused to work on weapons. In fact, Oppenheimer managed to sabotage the Nazi efforts to develop the Manhattan Project (by lying to Hitler), yet the Allies still managed to gather enough ambitious idiots who realized that, theoretically, this tech could be weaponized.
Ironically, it was probably that failed philosopher... the famous Niels Bohr... who played the biggest role among those "Manhattan Project blunders"!

That whole scenario just reinforces my point: technology becomes most dangerous when it's being wielded by fools.
Ed Gein sentenced in Psychology ·
Tyler Reyes86 said:An interesting connection, considering this whole discussion revolves around one specific instance of slave-like sexual abuse. You see, Adolf Hitler didn't actually have an issue with slavery as a concept, provided the masters belonged to a superior race. In his view, the role of women would simply be to produce more little Aryans.
When we bring up Palestinians, Islam naturally emerges as the dominant ideology, existing within a framework where traditional slavery still lingers in certain places, and women occupy a subservient status dictated by Sharia law. Furthermore, if Josef Fritzl happened to be a Saudi man, he probably would have covered up his crimes quite successfully; after all, women there are largely confined to the home under the constant supervision of a male guardian, needing his explicit permission just to step outside. Domestic violence is practically a non-existent concept within their judicial system.

What are you even talking about?

Palestine used to be secular—it's only recently, after more than sixty years of illegal occupation by Israel, that a radical Islamist party has actually taken power. But honestly, that kind of radicalism is a direct consequence of the occupation itself. It’s even being funded by Israel to create this convenient "justification" for their "no negotiations" military occupation policy.

Just to clear things up here... for most of its history, Palestine leaned toward Catholicism, and even today, there are actually more Catholics in both Palestine and Israel than there are Jews!
Killing an elephant in Philosophy ·
placidranger said:I can't say I agree. People have been successfully using things they don't understand for ages—the more complex the tech gets, the more common that becomes—and I don't see the harm in it.

Besides, the purpose of a tech product isn't set in stone when it's invented. Take texting, for example. Do you really think the pioneers knew it would become the primary way teenagers communicate and ultimately become a massive money-maker for carriers?
Computers were originally designed for government agencies and research labs. Now, we have enough for everyone on the planet. There are endless examples. Users are the ones who creatively redefine an invention's purpose, often completely ignoring what the designers intended. And frankly, accidents happen even to people who actually know what they're doing. 🤷

Just because you don't see a problem doesn't mean there isn't one... Look, you're free to believe that both Clark and Sagan were spot on, and that you've somehow managed to grasp things more deeply than they did, but 🙂
that's a stretch.
Furthermore, the purpose of a technological product isn't defined by the moment it's invented.

I wasn't even talking about "purpose" in the first place, 🤷
to be honest.
Take SMS, for example. Who could have predicted it would end up as this massive communication staple for teenagers and become such a huge money-maker for carriers?

What does that have to do with anything I actually said?

Computers were originally envisioned as devices intended for government use and scientific laboratories.

As far as I know, inventions happen because there's a specific need being met. Computers exist because we needed to crack German codes during World War II. At that stage, nobody was thinking about mass-producing PCs, let alone predicting their future utility beyond the very reason they were created in the first place.

I'm all for having a different perspective, but try to back yours up with something concrete. Right now, it feels like you're just stating an opinion rather than making a point, because I'm struggling to find any logic in the argument.

There are endless examples. It's the users who creatively redefine the purpose of an invention, largely independent of what was originally intended.

Here we go again with the whole "purpose" thing. 🤷

If some guy who knows nothing about firearms finds himself out in Alaska, and his gun freezes solid overnight... he might get the bright idea to hold it right next to a fire just to thaw the slide. If he's lucky, he'll hold the loaded barrel away from the heat so he can bring the slide toward the flame without burning his hands.

In this ridiculous little scenario, the "purpose" of the gun is completely irrelevant. The only factor that matters is the total lack of understanding regarding the tool being used—which, in reality, is usually how people get hurt.

accidents happen even to the pros who actually know their business

Exactly. But if you pair bad luck with being plain old stupid—like trying to defrost a handgun over a campfire in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness... well, you’ve got a pretty good chance of kicking the bucket due to your own sheer stupidity long before any "accident" ever catches up to you.
Abuse or just being intense...? in Psychology ·
Honestly, whenever I find myself in total agreement with everyone else—I immediately start doubting my own judgment 🙂
Abuse or just being intense...? in Psychology ·
Look, don't go poking your nose where it isn't wanted—people generally get pretty annoyed when someone jumps in to fix problems they didn't even ask for, especially when you aren't even sure those problems actually exist.

Honestly, it’s totally understandable why a girl would want to skip school. School is a massive obligation, and let's be real—it can be incredibly boring. You don't get a say in the social circle or the people sitting in the desks next to you, so if she basically grew up faster than her peers, it's easy to see why she'd find the whole adolescent scene exhausting. If she's got even a modicum of common sense, she probably realizes that the standard grind of high school, getting a degree, and following that specific path might not actually be the most useful thing for her future—so it wouldn't be weird at all if she just couldn't find any motivation to waste her energy on something that feels pointless.

From what I've seen, kids who distance themselves from the status quo and just retreat into their own worlds usually turn out just fine. They don't end up with major issues. The real trouble comes from the mediocre crowd—the ones who constantly pretend everything is perfect when it clearly isn't.
Ed Gein sentenced in Psychology ·
Zachary Turner6 said:Hmm, true enough.

There’s this specific line of reasoning regarding why people feel compelled to inflict harm on others—whether that drive is conscious or buried deep in the subconscious. Edgar Allan Poe (whose biography is, shall we say, less than stellar) explored this concept through several of his short stories (Black Cat, William Wilson, The Imp of the Perverse, The Tell-Tale Heart,...). His core argument is that sometimes we feel an irresistible urge to do exactly what we know we shouldn't—precisely because we know it's forbidden."
He refers to this phenomenon specifically as the imp of the perverse. It makes you wonder: do some people (if not all of us) actually possess such a twisted sense of gratification derived from the suffering of others? Is there a figurative Marquis de Sade living inside everyone, waiting for the moment they can break through the surface and seize total dominance over human consciousness and action? It’s a pretty chilling thought, honestly...

Why is it that some manage to resist this impulse while others succumb? And why is it that for most people—hopefully the majority—such acts are repulsive even at a subconscious level? In short, how is it possible that there are individuals who derive genuine, conscious pleasure from inflicting pain (rape, pedophilia, murder motivated by pure sadistic thrill, and so on)?

I mean, why would anyone hope that the majority of people would resist those kinds of ideas in the first place...?

For instance, every single time I see coverage regarding the conflict between Palestinians and Jews, I get this dark, sudden impulse to channel my inner Adolf Hitler—only to do a much more thorough job than he ever did. From a Palestinian perspective, it’s honestly a shame that I end up resisting that urge every time.🤷
Ed Gein sentenced in Psychology ·
Zachary Turner6 said:but... boys don't have vaginas... (honestly, looking at your profile picture, even Martin Luther King Jr., H.P. Lovecraft, and Hideo Kojima would be physically ill—me? I just shield myself with humor. Bad, dark humor. So don't judge me too harshly. And even if you do, it doesn't matter.)

Fine, the "monster" got convicted. But one question remains: I’m curious, how much of a sentence should the neighbors and the mother get if this guy is looking at life in prison (maybe 5-6 years, judging by his age)?

There’s an old saying—I think it came from some violinist, or someone like that—Albert Einstein. A genuinely smart man, truly. It goes something like this: the only people worse than those who commit evil acts are those who allow them to happen. Or, as Joe so succinctly put it: we are all to blame...

Though, naturally, there is an explanation for that: "we are all strong enough to endure the suffering of others" (La Rochefoucauld)

What about hermaphrodites? Genetic engineering? Reconstructive surgery? Maternity wards in Chernobyl, Hiroshima, or Nagasaki?

It seems entirely plausible that even the blind forces of random mutation decided to "gift" some boys with a vagina, much to the absolute delight of guys like Doug Stanhope.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY4LI...eature=related
Killing an elephant in Philosophy ·
I’ve been thinking lately about how we handle those little day-to-day tasks—the stuff that just needs to get done without much fanfare—and it reminds me of the concept of "servantes." It’s such a specific kind of utility, isn't it? Not quite the main event, but absolutely essential to keeping the whole machine running smoothly. It’s like when you’re working on a big project at a place like Home Depot or even just trying to fix something around the house—you don't always need the high-end, heavy-duty power tools right out of the gate; sometimes you just need those reliable, steady little helpers that fill in the gaps. They aren't there to steal the spotlight, but without them, things would definitely fall apart. I find there's a certain quiet dignity in that kind of role—being the backbone of a process without needing the credit. It's a good reminder that even the most "supporting" roles are what actually hold everything together in the end. Edward Flores4 says:
Oh, they absolutely do. Honestly, do you really think modern media could pull off the kind of masterclass in propaganda that Goebbels managed to pull off back in the day? It was a different level of precision—almost surgical—compared to the chaotic noise we see now.

So, I’ve been chewing on this question about whether America should join NATO—even though, if we're being honest, the whole alliance feels like a decaying relic from the Cold War era. It's hard to ignore the criticism that lately, the organization seems more focused on destabilizing regions to keep the flow of oil and narcotics moving toward the US and the UK than actually maintaining peace. Plus, you have to look at the hypocrisy of it all—how they claim to stand for security while essentially turning a blind eye to the plight of the Kurds living within Turkey, which is itself a NATO member. It makes you wonder if the pact is actually about protection, or just about protecting certain interests.

I don't even know where to start with this—honestly, I’m at a loss for words. It feels like modern propaganda is actually more effective today than it even was back in the Goebbels era. It’s just different now, isn't it? Back then, you had to rely on massive rallies and radio broadcasts to get a message across, but today, the sheer scale and precision of how information is manipulated online is on an entirely different level. It's much more subtle, too—it doesn't always feel like a loudspeaker shouting in your face; sometimes it just feels like a quiet nudge in your feed that slowly shifts how you see the world. It’s pretty wild when you really stop to think about it.

I’m looking at this specific point—and I want to be really careful about how I frame it—but it seems like we’re missing the forest for the trees here. It’s one thing to talk about the surface-level mechanics of what happened, but if you look at the underlying structure, there’s a much deeper pattern emerging. It reminds me of that old saying about how you can’t fix a leaky roof by just painting over the water stains; eventually, you have to address the actual shingles and the wood underneath. We keep circling back to these small, tactical details, but we aren't quite grasping the strategic shift that's actually taking place. To truly understand why things are moving in this direction, we have to step back and look at the broader landscape—the kind of big-picture stuff that most people tend to overlook because it’s much easier to focus on the immediate drama.
Why is there such an intense push from the Chinese to control the internet? It’s one of those massive, complicated questions that really makes you stop and think about how much power information carries in the modern age. When you look at it through a certain lens, it isn't just about censorship—though that's a huge part of it—it’s more about total structural sovereignty. Think of it like this: if you own the roads, the bridges, and the traffic lights, you don't just decide where people go; you decide what they even see as an option. For a government that prioritizes social stability and centralized authority above all else, an unfiltered, borderless internet is basically a wild frontier that they can't police. In their eyes, the digital world is a battlefield for influence. If they let the globalized version of the web flow in without any filters, they aren't just letting in ideas; they're letting in potential instability. It’s similar to how a major US corporation might try to gatekeep its proprietary network to prevent any outside interference or data leaks—except here, the "corporation" is the state itself, and the "data" is the collective consciousness of its citizens. They want to build a digital ecosystem that functions like a walled garden. By controlling the gateways—the search engines, the social platforms, the hardware—they ensure that the narrative stays within a framework that supports their specific vision of order. It’s about making sure that the "digital landscape" doesn't become a breeding ground for dissent or foreign influence that could disrupt the status quo. To them, controlling the internet isn't just a preference; it's a fundamental necessity for maintaining domestic control in a hyper-connected world.
It’s just like they refused to learn a single thing from Putin... and honestly, what a massive missed opportunity that was.

I’m looking back at that previous point—and I mean really digging into it—and it strikes me how much we tend to overlook the nuance in these discussions. It’s easy to jump to conclusions when things get heated, but if you step back for a second, you see that the layers are much more complex than they first appear. It reminds me of how people approach complicated legal cases in the States; everyone wants a quick verdict, but the actual truth is usually buried under mountains of fine print and conflicting testimonies. We have to be careful not to oversimplify things just because a quick answer feels more satisfying in the moment.
I mean, honestly—why should I even care about how an engine actually works? At the end of the day, a car is just a tool to get me from point A to point B. If I turn the key and it moves, my job is done. I don't need to be a mechanic to drive to the grocery store or head down to the beach, right?
Look, you don't strictly *have* to understand it—nobody's forcing you to go back to school—but there’s a catch. When you use tools without actually grasping how they function under the hood, you aren't just flying blind; you're essentially multiplying every single potential risk by an exponential factor. It’s like trying to drive a high-performance Tesla when you barely understand how an internal combustion engine works—you might get from point A to point B, but the moment something glitches, you have absolutely no idea why you're spinning out of control. You're basically handing over all the leverage to the tech itself.

Honestly, ignorance is always an easy way out. That’s why most people just choose to stay in the dark—it’s easier than doing the actual work—and then they act genuinely shocked when some Goebbels or Sanders figure comes along and pulls the wool over their eyes.

Murphy hit the nail on the head there—honestly, it’s almost a moral obligation at this point to take those naive folks for everything they're worth!

I mean, honestly—you probably don't even grasp the fundamental physics of how an airplane stays in the air, yet you're still out there booking flights and cruising at thirty thousand feet anyway. Just a guess, of course.

Of course I get it. Honestly, I have this constant, restless need to wrap my head around how everything works—even the tech I don't actually use in my day-to-day life. Take aviation, for example; even if I'm not the one sitting in the cockpit or tinkering with jet engines, I still feel this pull to understand the mechanics behind it all. It's just how I'm wired.

I honestly feel like we need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture here—it’s easy to get caught up in the immediate noise, but if you zoom out, the underlying pattern becomes pretty obvious. It reminds me of that old saying about not missing the forest for the trees; we’re so focused on the individual leaves that we’re losing sight of how massive the entire ecosystem actually is. Think about it this way—if you were trying to fix a leaky faucet by just putting a bucket under it, you might solve the immediate mess on your floor, sure, but you aren't actually addressing the plumbing issue behind the wall. That’s what it feels like when we debate these specific points without acknowledging the systemic stuff happening in the background. We need to be looking at the structural integrity of the whole thing, not just patching up the surface level problems as they pop up. It’s more about understanding the "why" behind the friction rather than just reacting to the friction itself.
The real issue here—and I think this is something a lot of people struggle to articulate—is that she’s basically forcing a specific social role onto me just by existing. It doesn't matter if I actually want that role or even if I understand the "assignment" she’s handed me; her very presence dictates how I'm supposed to act in relation to her. It’s like being cast in a play you never auditioned for, where the script is written before you even step onto the stage. Whether I'm on board with it or not, the expectation is already set in stone.
How exactly am I supposed to avoid being told what to do?

When you actually grasp how technology works, you’re the one calling the shots—you're using it as a tool to get things done. But when you don't understand the inner workings? Well, you’re still using it, but at that point, the tech becomes nothing more than an empty gun. And honestly, there are two people who get caught up in that little drama—the person staring down the barrel, thinking they're in danger, and the person who knows damn well the gun is empty.

When you don't actually understand how technology works, it just becomes this convenient commodity to you. As long as it’s there and functioning, life is great—everything is seamless and "super." But if the responsibility of keeping it running fell on your shoulders? Well, we wouldn't have any of it. It’s this perfect, almost poetic collision of massive technological power and pure human ignorance, which reminds me of something A. Clark once pointed out:

You know, I was thinking about that old adage—the idea that any technology advanced enough eventually becomes indistinguishable from magic. It’s such a profound way to look at our relationship with progress, isn't it? Think about it this way: if you were to take a modern smartphone—something we all carry around like it's just a basic tool—and drop it into the hands of someone from, say, the early 1900s, they wouldn't see a "communication device." They wouldn't even understand the concept of a microprocessor or a digital signal. To them, being able to video call someone halfway across the country or access the entirety of human knowledge with a swipe of a finger? That isn't engineering. That's straight-up sorcery. It’s like something pulled right out of a fantasy novel. I feel like we hit this threshold every few decades. We move from wondering how a lightbulb works to treating wireless internet like it’s just an invisible, fundamental part of the atmosphere. We stop asking "how?" and just start asking "where's my charger?" We lose that sense of awe because the "magic" becomes mundane. But when you really step back and look at the sheer scale of what we've built—the leaps in physics and computation that allow us to manipulate reality at a granular level—it really is nothing short of miraculous. It makes me wonder what we consider "impossible" today that will just look like a common household gadget to our grandkids.

Carl Sagan put it a bit more bluntly when he said:

We’ve basically engineered a society where almost every single thing that keeps our world spinning—our infrastructure, our economy, our daily survival—is tethered to high-level science and technology. But here’s the kicker: we’ve also set things up so that the vast majority of people living in this country don't actually grasp how any of it works. It’s like building a massive, complex skyscraper out of glass and steel, then handing the keys to a crowd that doesn't even know what gravity is. Honestly? It feels like a recipe for a total meltdown. We might be able to coast on this momentum for a little while longer—we’ve been getting lucky so far—but you can only play with fire for so long. Eventually, this volatile cocktail of widespread technical illiteracy mixed with concentrated institutional power is going to hit a breaking point. And when it does, it’s going to blow up right in our faces..
Killing an elephant in Philosophy ·
placidranger said:So, the issue is that technology is being used as a status symbol?
Where's the problem with that?

The only person who has an actual problem with it is the one using it that way. It’s kind of like how back in the day, having pale skin was the ultimate status symbol—so much so that the aristocracy would basically smear toxic metal emulsions on their skin just to look brighter and signal to everyone else that they were higher up the social ladder.

The "problem" there was just that they’d regularly drop dead from poisoning by their early 30s. If they had actually understood the science behind the tech they were using, they probably could have avoided that mess entirely.

You’ve likely heard the stories about how lead poisoning wrecked Roman households... just another classic example of technology being misused purely for the sake of showing off.

Basically, any time you use technology recklessly without grasping its underlying logic or function, things tend to end badly. At best, you end up feeling unnecessarily let down because the gadget didn't live up to your "social expectations." In the worst-case scenario, you literally kill yourself because you couldn't foresee the consequences of your own ignorance.

Using tech like that is essentially a marriage between futility and illusion. It’s a total train wreck waiting to happen.
Killing an elephant in Philosophy ·
Mark Torres14 said:I agree with you that technology needs to serve humanity and that using it correctly is one of our best shots at promoting actual freedom.
Your point about understanding and mastering technology being the prerequisite for all of this also holds serious weight.
But in the real world, things aren't that simple.

Let me give you an example.
Back in the old USA, we didn't have political freedom, and we used to envy an average Frenchman who could walk into a grocery store and choose between thirty different types of bread. Meanwhile, in our stores, you had maybe two options: white or wheat. To us, living under a sort of political dictatorship (in every sense of the word), it felt like that Frenchman was freer just because he had thirty choices, while we were unfree because we only had two. We thought freedom was just about having options, failing to see that behind that "freedom" sat a rigid economic dictatorship that dictated exactly what the Frenchman needed.
It’s the same deal with technology. On one hand, when we use it to augment our own skills and abilities, it’s incredibly helpful. But on the other hand, once that technology becomes a social structure itself, it becomes our master. A machine has no feelings. It doesn't care if you're exhausted, depressed, or just not feeling it... it just demands the same repetitive motion, over and over, without ever stopping.

What do you think?

Personally, I don't see any real connection between political restrictions and the way we interact with tech.

When people say technology has become a "social relationship," what they really mean is that they're using it without actually understanding it. It's like those kids who absolutely have to have the latest sleek smartphone just because it serves as a status symbol within their specific peer group. If those kids understood technology the way a plumber understands that a faucet is just a way to access water—rather than a fashion statement—then that "must-have" phone wouldn't be serving a social function at all.

In other words, what you're describing still falls under the umbrella of "misunderstanding technology." People end up projecting almost supernatural importance onto modern gadgets. Whether it's a smartphone, a massive flat-screen TV, a luxury yacht, or even a high-end sports car with custom rims—they're all just symptoms of the same thing: a failure to grasp what the tech actually is, leading people to expect it to perform some social role it was never designed for. And because of that, disappointment and mistakes are pretty much inevitable.
Ed Gein sentenced in Psychology ·
Sandra Parker3 said:but it isn't about being born, it's about how you're raised—or "raised"—which doesn't make the idea any less fascinating 🙄

yeah, it reminds me of that little reporter who got three years just because he tied his shoes and put them in the wrong spot

but he DID have support, that's the whole point

man, if only I had been that lucky

Still... in order for someone to "raise" you, well, you have to actually be born first. So, at the end of the day, birth is the common denominator here. And let's face it, being born is its own kind of trauma—even for those we consider to have had a "smooth" start. It's basically the perfect breeding ground for every psychiatric diagnosis out there... it all traces back to childhood trauma if you look hard enough.🙄

The fact that some people went through absolute hell as kids and didn't end up with a mental health disorder... honestly, that doesn't really prove anything. Because, let’s be real: an idiot is still going to be an idiot—trauma or no trauma. They’ll still go through life using their childhood struggles as a sort of shield or excuse.

And why do they do it? Simple: because they need to keep their jobs. If they just admitted that someone was a complete jerk, then there would be no reason to see a therapist once a week, and all those expensive prescriptions wouldn't be doing anyone any good.🤷

Quentin Tarantino:
yeah, it just reminded me of that little reporter who got three years in prison just because he took his shoes off and put them back in the wrong spot.
Talk about irony. You have a journalist getting three years, while some international terrorist, criminal, and total imbecile walks free despite having wiped out millions of innocent lives.

And you know what's even worse? Not a single psychiatrist bothered to provide a diagnosis—not for the journalist, and certainly not for that global murderer and criminal. It's incredibly easy to point fingers at the obvious culprits... but hardly anyone is willing to work *pro bono* to defend the innocent. But hey, I guess that’s probably just more childhood trauma at work.😁

Quentin Tarantino:
but he DID have support, that's the whole point.
Support from a wife and some neighbors... sure. But nothing political or military. And nowadays, that kind of "help" doesn't carry much weight in a courtroom.🙄
Ed Gein sentenced in Psychology ·
Sandra Parker3 said:Ha, this reminds me of "Lambs."
I get what you mean, but why does everyone insist they have the answers and swear that a traumatic childhood is always the key?🤷

Yeah, if only you and I could actually agree on something for once.😁
We really need to study the specific mechanisms that lead to those kinds of malfunctions.

Because they don't know any better. It’s become this universal diagnosis—this trendy way of looking at things based on the fascinating idea that every single problem starts right at birth.

The real key to cases like this is the society that actually "produces" them. Slavery systems still exist in various forms across the globe today, but Jeffrey Dahmer isn't running an empire or acting as some military dictator... so he ended up behind bars.

Developed democracies go ahead and commit crimes that are a hundred times larger and infinitely more brutal... and nobody bats an eye. His logic—as twisted and dark as it may be—is actually sound. That kind of behavior is perfectly acceptable in our world today, just not when it's being carried out by small-time individuals who lack political clout or military backing.

He was just not quite brilliant enough to realize that his little scheme was never going to be sustainable in the long run.
Ed Gein sentenced in Psychology ·
Drew Morgan said:If you ask me, being "normal" just means being slightly neurotic enough to function in this environment. I’m putting "normal" in quotes for a reason. No one is out there policing them, and they aren't breaking any laws. But from where I'm sitting, they aren't just a little neurotic—they're straight-up cavemen from another planet.

I saw a great Quote on another thread: All the world's evil stems from mediocrity...

pretty cool 🙂
Killing an elephant in Philosophy ·
Technology is the ONLY thing actually working for us!

If humanity has any kind of future worth mentioning—and if there’s even one path that holds the potential for what I’d call "Enlightenment 2.0"—that path is undeniably technological in nature.

The real issue right now, though, is that everyone is sprinting toward new tech without actually grasping how it works. Because of that, we’re trying to tackle modern-day problems using yesterday’s tools, which is why there's this massive wave of global anxiety sweeping through society. Right now, technology is still largely being steered by global politics and the corporate elite at places like Wall Street or Silicon Valley giants, but honestly? That era is rapidly dying out. Once the average person takes the time to truly wrap their head around the tech they use every day, technology will finally return to its true purpose... it'll become "a tool for human liberation."
Ed Gein sentenced in Psychology ·
Drew Morgan said:This is what gets to me most. I find it impossible to believe that not a single neighbor, tenant, or spouse—absolutely nobody—suspected a thing for 24 years!

Looking at Fritzl’s twisted face, he looks like the literal incarnation of a demon, or perhaps just a manifestation of the darkest parts of our collective subconscious.

But what about these "normal" people?

They absolutely disgust me. 👎

Honestly, the whole idea of being "normal" basically went out the window once society became this massive, interconnected machine. We’ve been living in civilization for so long now that the very concept has lost its teeth—nobody even remembers what an actual baseline looks like anymore.
Ed Gein sentenced in Psychology ·
Drew Morgan said:So, I just heard on the news that Ed Gein was finally sentenced.
What’s your take? What kind of psychological breakdown drives someone to commit something like that?

Honestly, modern society—with all its isolation and lack of connection—basically provides the perfect vacuum for these kinds of people to act out the darker impulses of our collective subconscious.

It’s always so much easier to just point at a "monster," slap a clinical diagnosis on them, and pretend that society isn't partially to blame for creating the conditions that allowed such a person to exist in the first place. It's a way to dodge accountability for our own negligence.

Think about it—there were likely hundreds of neighbors who knew the girl had "gone missing," but nobody really gave a damn. People just stayed behind their locked doors in their suburban houses, minding their own business and ignoring the fact that she was essentially leaving her kids on the doorstep. Everyone stays in their own little bubble, focused only on their own lives.

At the end of the day, you get the individuals that the culture produces. Nothing happens in a vacuum!
Who watches the watchmen? in Spirituality ·
So, I’m guessing a "higher level" would be something like a "higher master tier" or maybe just a "higher level of futility"?

Or is this that whole "higher self" thing—the part of you supposedly running the show over your "lower self"—where you have to meditate your way into growing special neurons just to reach a "higher degree of schizophrenia"?

Or, let's be real, are you just selling smoke and mirrors because the crowd is starting to realize that underneath all that fog, the master is standing there totally naked, exposed, and completely unprepared?
Who watches the watchmen? in Spirituality ·
steeleagle13 said:if you learn how to pee in a giant seashell, maybe the squirrel will give you some chocolate 😁

I had no idea clams came in different sizes—and even if they did, I’m pretty sure aiming for a big one would be way easier than trying to hit a small one.

It's a whole lot tougher when you're trying to pee against the wind... kind of like how you're handling this little remark about giant clams, tiny business, and leprechauns.🤣
Who watches the watchmen? in Spirituality ·
Michael Anderson2 said:Sure, everything is one. But even that's just an illusion. 😉
I'm thinking about making myself a t-shirt that says, "We're all masters!"

Honestly, I don't see any point in communicating like this—there’s no actual debate, no exchange of ideas, nothing.

Why so rigid—or should I say, why so abrasive, placidharbor7? Why dodge the questions being thrown your way? Why not actually lay out the reasoning behind your views on the topic? Honestly, if you truly believe you have something valuable to contribute, why not engage more meaningfully in the discussion? Explain things, teach us, make a recommendation, drop a link—just give us something to work with. Most of your posts just seem to be an invitation to conflict. Show us this "transcendence" you keep talking about...🙄

We’re all placidharbor7—well, except for those moments when we’re all more like Mirko Norac 🤣 (the older crowd will remember that whole era, and the younger ones... well, they get to keep their innocence) 🙂

Honestly, I don't see any point in communicating like this—there’s no actual discussion, no exchange of ideas, nothing at all.

Exactly. He’s actually playing the part of a true Zen master perfectly... A real master lures in students the way you might tease a child with a clenched fist, making them believe there's something precious inside, when in reality, the hand is empty. Every master is essentially a con artist, because if he truly had something valuable to "sell," he wouldn't be wasting his time hanging out here and flooding forums with posts 😉

Why so harsh, Master? Not to sound bold, but why the attitude?

Because he’s leaning hard into that Far East guru vibe and all their clichés... except he hasn't realized that their behavior actually makes sense given their circumstances. Specifically, people go to them begging to be taught, so that kind of persona works. But our "master" is just copying their folklore in a totally inappropriate setting—an environment where nobody is asking him for anything, let alone begging him to be their teacher.

He doesn't seem to grasp that, which is why he acts so out of touch. He just wants to feel important and respected. 😕

Why won't you answer the questions being asked of you?

The second he opened that hand, everyone would see it was empty, and the "magic" in his head would vanish instantly. The privilege of being a master is getting to ask the questions and laugh at every answer—right up until the moment you realize there are no answers, and you just have to laugh at yourself for being foolish enough to think a master actually had something to teach you.

Why don't you explain the reasoning behind your thoughts on the subject?

Because they aren't his own thoughts... it's just a routine, and routines are hard to justify logically. So, the master keeps his fist tightly clenched, just waiting for someone to fall for the trick. 🙂

So, basically, if you actually feel like you have something valuable to add to the conversation, why aren't you jumping in more often, plodonosnije?

If I did, I’d say so. That much is crystal clear!