Ed Gein sentenced

So, I just heard on the news that Ed Gein was finally sentenced.
What’s your take? What kind of psychological breakdown drives someone to commit something like that?

Drew Morgan said:So, I just heard on the news that Ed Gein was finally sentenced.
What’s your take? What kind of psychological breakdown drives someone to commit something like that?

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crimsonheron80 said:borderline☕

I wouldn't say so☕

Drew Morgan said:So, I just heard on the news that Ed Gein was finally sentenced.
What’s your take? What kind of psychological breakdown drives someone to commit something like that?

Honestly, modern society—with all its isolation and lack of connection—basically provides the perfect vacuum for these kinds of people to act out the darker impulses of our collective subconscious.

It’s always so much easier to just point at a "monster," slap a clinical diagnosis on them, and pretend that society isn't partially to blame for creating the conditions that allowed such a person to exist in the first place. It's a way to dodge accountability for our own negligence.

Think about it—there were likely hundreds of neighbors who knew the girl had "gone missing," but nobody really gave a damn. People just stayed behind their locked doors in their suburban houses, minding their own business and ignoring the fact that she was essentially leaving her kids on the doorstep. Everyone stays in their own little bubble, focused only on their own lives.

At the end of the day, you get the individuals that the culture produces. Nothing happens in a vacuum!

Honestly, I’m more interested in what's going on inside his lawyer's head:

"Fritzl isn't a monster"

Fritzl's attorney, Rudolf Mayer, keeps trying to convince the public and the jury that his client isn't some kind of monster.

"Fritzl isn't the sexual monster the media portrays him to be. If he were, he would have kept his family in much worse conditions and killed them all, rather than putting a Mickey Mouse poster on the wall, bringing them gifts and a tree and celebratingChristmas with them," Mayer stated, leaving everyone absolutely stunned.

I get how defense attorneys work, but there's a limit to how you can frame a case
what kind of person actually says stuff like this—does the guy have some kind of mental issue too?

I mean... gifts, posters, a tree, Christmas... what is he even trying to imply? What kind of twisted symbolism is that? 🤮 🦈

Edward Flores4 said:Honestly, modern society—with all its isolation and lack of connection—basically provides the perfect vacuum for these kinds of people to act out the darker impulses of our collective subconscious.

It’s always so much easier to just point at a "monster," slap a clinical diagnosis on them, and pretend that society isn't partially to blame for creating the conditions that allowed such a person to exist in the first place. It's a way to dodge accountability for our own negligence.

Think about it—there were likely hundreds of neighbors who knew the girl had "gone missing," but nobody really gave a damn. People just stayed behind their locked doors in their suburban houses, minding their own business and ignoring the fact that she was essentially leaving her kids on the doorstep. Everyone stays in their own little bubble, focused only on their own lives.

At the end of the day, you get the individuals that the culture produces. Nothing happens in a vacuum!

I really have to agree here

We’re all interconnected, you know? We're constantly influencing one another, whether we want to or not.

But nowadays, everyone is just looking out for number one, pulling inward, and I guess this broken state of affairs is exactly what we get for it.

I honestly have no idea what a "monster" actually is. Can someone explain it to me? I can't even find a clear definition online.

I remember once walking past this certain institution where there were these distorted, deformed people wandering through the garden, screaming and wailing...😱
During the war, everyone fled that facility and ran through the streets completely naked.🤷

It isn't about being intellectually disabled or having some specific disorder or illness. My mother used to call them "monsters"—and later, a relative of mine studying medicine said the same thing. I still don't quite grasp what that term actually implies. Most people just are, I suppose.🤷😕😂

crimsonheron80 said:I honestly have no idea what a "monster" actually is. Can someone explain it to me? I can't even find a clear definition online.

I remember once walking past this certain institution where there were these distorted, deformed people wandering through the garden, screaming and wailing...😱
During the war, everyone fled that facility and ran through the streets completely naked.🤷

It isn't about being intellectually disabled or having some specific disorder or illness. My mother used to call them "monsters"—and later, a relative of mine studying medicine said the same thing. I still don't quite grasp what that term actually implies. Most people just are, I suppose.🤷😕😂

it can only be described as human

but you really only use that term when there isn't some other specific label you can pin on someone, since everyone gets so worked up that they just throw out a heavy word to settle the matter, I guess.

Sandra Parker3 said:it can only be described as human

but you really only use that term when there isn't some other specific label you can pin on someone, since everyone gets so worked up that they just throw out a heavy word to settle the matter, I guess.

Hmm. But from what I saw, those people looked like an absolute nightmare. They were screaming for votes like rabid animals, completely lost. Honestly, watching it made me physically ill. WTF... do they even possess basic human emotions? What makes them human?

crimsonheron80 said:I honestly have no idea what a "monster" actually is. Can someone explain it to me? I can't even find a clear definition online.

I remember once walking past this certain institution where there were these distorted, deformed people wandering through the garden, screaming and wailing...😱
During the war, everyone fled that facility and ran through the streets completely naked.🤷

It isn't about being intellectually disabled or having some specific disorder or illness. My mother used to call them "monsters"—and later, a relative of mine studying medicine said the same thing. I still don't quite grasp what that term actually implies. Most people just are, I suppose.🤷😕😂

Oh, come on, what you saw wasn't monsters at all; if you look at it from a certain angle, it's actually performance art—real art, honestly—especially if those guys running the show aren't too repulsive to look at.🤷

crimsonheron80 said:Hmm. But from what I saw, those people looked like an absolute nightmare. They were screaming for votes like rabid animals, completely lost. Honestly, watching it made me physically ill. WTF... do they even possess basic human emotions? What makes them human?

you might be talking about people with severe intellectual disabilities here

so why on earth would anyone call them monsters?

in this specific case, it was stated that he was (or is) perfectly fine intellectually

Elizabeth Bishop4 Asks:
No, what exactly were you looking at? Those aren't monsters. It’s performance art—actual art, if you take a second to look closer—especially when those guys in the suits don't look half bad.🤷

I find it hard to believe that Canada offers such a rich cultural and arts programming.🤣

Sandra Parker3 said:you might be talking about people with severe intellectual disabilities here

so why on earth would anyone call them monsters?

in this specific case, it was stated that he was (or is) perfectly fine intellectually

likely a profound impairment

Sandra Parker3 said:you might be talking about people with severe intellectual disabilities here

so why on earth would anyone call them monsters?

in this specific case, it was stated that he was (or is) perfectly fine intellectually

so why call him a monster? if that's the case, then how does one even apply the medical definition?🤷

crimsonheron80 said:likely a profound impairment

so why call him a monster? if that's the case, then how does one even apply the medical definition?🤷

Give me that definition—the actual medical one, not some hearsay version. I need the officially recognized one.

Look, you really need to distinguish between being a monster physically and being one psychologically.

A three-headed monster isn't going to cause any trouble, but you can never really trust a one-headed freak.

I don't know what you're even talking about at this hour.

Edward Flores4 said:Honestly, modern society—with all its isolation and lack of connection—basically provides the perfect vacuum for these kinds of people to act out the darker impulses of our collective subconscious.

It’s always so much easier to just point at a "monster," slap a clinical diagnosis on them, and pretend that society isn't partially to blame for creating the conditions that allowed such a person to exist in the first place. It's a way to dodge accountability for our own negligence.

Think about it—there were likely hundreds of neighbors who knew the girl had "gone missing," but nobody really gave a damn. People just stayed behind their locked doors in their suburban houses, minding their own business and ignoring the fact that she was essentially leaving her kids on the doorstep. Everyone stays in their own little bubble, focused only on their own lives.

At the end of the day, you get the individuals that the culture produces. Nothing happens in a vacuum!

I suppose I have to agree... unfortunately.

I suppose even if Fritzl endured some sort of traumatic childhood, I simply cannot wrap my head around the depravity of his actions; the sheer level of evil involved is honestly stomach-turning, even to someone like me! I don't think I could ever resort to such things if I were in his shoes, though I guess I can't be entirely certain about my own limits...
The reality is that many people who suffer through a broken upbringing often struggle to become truly upright individuals, frequently carrying these dark, hidden sides within them throughout their lives.
That is precisely why I maintain that childhood is arguably the most critical phase of a person's entire existence, given how much it seems to shape everything that follows.

Drew Morgan said:So, I just heard on the news that Ed Gein was finally sentenced.
What’s your take? What kind of psychological breakdown drives someone to commit something like that?

When faced with crimes of this magnitude—with this level of pure monstrosity—the human mind tends to stall out, just... stunned.
It’s difficult to pinpoint exactly what makes his intentions so fundamentally "wrong," or where the line between a dark thought and true evil was crossed; we might never truly grasp that distinction.

However, one thing is certain: a plan executed with such terrifyingly precise realization would never have been possible if society functioned under a different set of norms—norms that I believe are entirely achievable.

In many ways, this individual took the traditional patriarchal structure and twisted it into a grotesque caricature of itself.

Perhaps there is a lesson to be gleaned from all this?