It’s wild—I can actually feel it when my ego takes over. That tension in my third eye just vanishes, and I find myself completely surrendered to my physical self. Even hearing the word "talent" triggers it; suddenly, I start pushing away the people who mean the most to me right now. I’m done with the ego. All I want is to be one with God.
The church says God is the truth, the way, and the life, but as I’m typing this, my inner voice is countering that. It tells me truth is simply fulfilling our purpose; the "way" is up to the visionaries to interpret for everyone else; and as for "life"—well, I haven't quite figured that part out yet. Maybe you or someone like Inside can have a vision and explain it to me. To me, truth is found in all of us working together without any ego getting in the way. It's about pure intention—praying that God pours from that eternal vessel so we can follow the path laid out for us. Let the blind see and the deaf hear... it’s all part of the same reality. I’ve spent twenty years studying what God is and the nature of the Holy Trinity, and finally, it’s clicking. My inner voice is telling me to study the religious texts deeply and thoughtfully—that’s the key to connecting with people. If they choose to tear the truth apart, let them; it’s just another one of His many aspects. It’s all about using love and understanding to bridge different layers of knowledge, merging various faiths and perspectives into a single truth—because there can't really be two. Truth is simple. It’s naked, and it’s available to anyone willing to strip themselves down enough to be truly seen. I’m starting to see spiritual growth as an exponential function rather than a linear one—which explains why some books get it wrong. We should explore this in higher realms and try to bring it down to earth, so those who pride themselves on being "progressive" might actually catch a glimpse of the light.
I don't know—sometimes when I speak, I realize I’m just voicing the truth. I don't need to actually see it, because I know it's being said. I believe those who see can't really speak, since their energy tends to pool right where they want it to be... that's a higher plane, I suppose. Let it be. I have no intention of seeking visions, but I'm not afraid of them either... I just want to talk and write, letting everything flow into a single point—a blue dot of truth through which white light descends to Earth. I say I don't want to see, but there's no fear there. You all are the researchers who seek sight; you'll be shown what you look for, and you're here to interpret the external world—thanks for doing that. I am simply a "voice," someone meant to speak, not through ego but through light... a voice exists so others might choose to listen and accept it. It’s all about an exchange of different colors and frequencies—all that's needed is openness and faith in the one white light and its aspects, our dear God who pours knowledge into us... that’s how it works when someone can't explain something; they simply can't, because the light intends to emerge at a specific place, in a specific color, flowing through a person at a precise frequency. For me, truth is blind... and if staying that way helps me help others, then so be it. He who sees doesn't need a voice... he who hears doesn't need to see... let it stay that way for a while. I don't think we can reach a collective insight without enough people speaking rather than seeing—after all, speaking is for others. There's no ego involved there; once you start seeing, I suspect the ego takes over because you'll try to explain the unexplainable through it, relying on their own experience. You should see for others if you possibly can... so that they receive what the light intends to give them. To be blunt, you can talk to Democrats and they might sincerely try to understand, but they won't want to see it—and that’s where all vision disappears.
Here’s another one my intuition tells me is true—try to approach this with an open mind, there's a mutual benefit here. I get to learn more about myself through your response, and you get to test the depth of your own honesty. It’s a bit of a blend of spirituality and psychology, really—it helps you grow, provided the answer stays sincere. If I hadn't been so guarded with my own insights, maybe there wouldn't have been so much conflict lately—though, let's be honest, most of that was on me. There’s a strange overlap between sadness and transcendence when you finally stop letting the ego run the show. Anyway, I just want your take so I don't end up drowning in my own ego instead of staying grounded in wisdom. I have this feeling like I'm just talking to myself—asking questions I'll eventually answer anyway if you don't step in. That’s the real spiritual work, I suppose—being able to sit with oneself and provide answers for others rather than just for one's own sake. I’m fairly certain—hopefully without the ego getting in the way—that I'm tapping into a vision where we move past pure materialism. We can bridge the gap by integrating material perspectives into universal ones—merging psychology, spirituality, and all those different religions that tend to divide us. All we really need is the language of love rather than hate. So, I’ll keep talking to myself until you reply; might even pass out before 4 AM tonight.
There’s also this connection between sadness and transcendence happening all at once—I didn't think it was actually possible until I felt it myself. How does that even work, and why? Thinking about this gives me a massive headache—haha. This is easily the most important question I’ve ever thrown your way, and honestly, maybe just asking it will help you too.
High energy—we were just chatting privately, but I didn't realize back then that we actually share the same worldview. Born on the exact same day, too—funny how that works when you think about how differently people usually process things... You asked how to know if you aren't pushing your opinion too aggressively? The answer is right there in front of you: just feel your own intention behind it. Is it coming from the ego, or is it coming through the light? Be the shovel digging the hole, not just some guy holding a shovel. Also, whatever I write—or anything anyone else writes—try to look at it with your own eyes, not just the physical ones.
Zachary Cook2 said:I honestly have no clue what I'd even say to that. Just ask me something specific.
Bringing the subconscious up to the surface—will that just feed the ego? I’m assuming so. More responsibility usually means more "problems" to deal with, haha. I'm actually looking forward to it. My inner voice keeps telling me not to even ask this, but rather just listen to him instead—but here I am, asking not out of spiritual growth, but out of a sort of controlled madness. He says one thing, I tell him to slow down, and we go from there. hihihi That feeling of total surrender from such an early age—has it been detrimental to a mentally underdeveloped diet in any way? And this pain? Will it eventually fade? It’s so heavy. Every time I write something that doesn't align with the truth, I get kicked right out of that pain—which immediately tells me on a deeper level, "re-examine what you wrote; does this question even serve your spiritual growth?" hihihi. It's all pretty cool. I've already deleted a few stupid questions, so this pain is actually useful. The only real question is whether the pain stays exactly like this, or if it transforms into something else entirely.
Haha, so it’s basically controlled madness—pretty great. I'm not entirely sure what I'm doing, but clearly, something is working—maybe we should just call it controlled spirituality instead? Zachary Cook2, can you pull any actual, useful advice out of the insights from my last post?
Just so I don't forget—haha—if anyone reading this thinks I'm losing my mind, let them. If they want to come at me with everything they've got, honestly, go for it. It'll just give me a chance to help them move through their current phase a little faster. No thanks necessary; you don't really owe the world anything until you actually start seeing things with spiritual eyes.
Don't take this personally—there's no malice intended—it’s just that people often lack understanding, plain and simple. It wasn't until yesterday that my practical experience finally aligned with the theory; everything suddenly clicked for me. My worldview is Catholic, so I've always leaned into intention—I think it's just time to move past this unconscious phase and start grasping things through a theoretical lens that was previously out of reach. In that spirit, I have plenty of questions, which I hope will help both you and everyone else in this process of discovery. If you could describe the hurdles one faces when bringing the unconscious up to a conscious level—specifically, how closely linked are individual fear and the act of letting go? Personally, I don't feel any fear at all; if anything, it's the opposite. My surrender and rejection of material concerns have been absolute so far. Is that a sound approach, or is it more complicated than that? A sharp pain between the eyes—is that normal, or am I hitting a block? I don't see why there would be pain if there isn't any fear present. I didn't fall asleep until about 4 AM because of that exact pain. I had a strange dream that I can interpret roughly like this: total darkness, nothingness, just a voice. It's a shame—I can't remember much, just the end, and it's honestly pretty depressing that it's fading... just bits and pieces... something... something... something... "And that's how people reject materialism!" You'll play your part, just as vital as any other—don't listen to the body if it claims to be superior. Truly wonderful. I'm asking humbly for your thoughts, hoping you won't see ego or falsehood in my writing. Or, if it is ego, please tell me straight—or perhaps it's just a flawed interpretation? I have a mental health patient in my family—my mother, specifically—so I always try to maintain a rational perspective on these matters, even though every instinct tells me this is the truth, regardless of who says it or how they label it. Honestly, I want your intention to manifest, for you to fulfill your part of the plan, and if there's any way you can help me do the same, please try... I actually have a spiritual guide who perceives energy and reveals quite a bit about people's futures; she's incredibly wise and radiates an energy so palpable it's felt on a physical level. However, she only answers specific questions, so I'm mostly on my own here. We only speak in person, and I can't travel to her right now, plus the questions are endless... ugh.
I don't really have any more questions now. Bradley Myers63 started a thread about places of power and his answers aligned perfectly with my own practice—so everything is clear to me. There is just one thing I'm stuck on: Carlos Castaneda clearly calls those who seek and spread the truth warriors of light, but personally, I don't need a title like that to be a warrior of light. That said, whenever the concept of truth comes up, I’ll never allow myself to get dragged into debates like the ones you all and Samting get into. I can't help but wonder why I can't move past my ego during those moments of "attack"—it's why I can't reach a state where I'm actually spreading the truth. And if you take this as some twenty-year-old kid trying to sound smart, you're wrong—you're missing the point that a light body isn't linearly tied to age, so there's no function that would make people unequal based on years lived. The attitude during our last discussion on a different topic was basically that it's impossible to explain things to you because most materialistic people are incapable... blah blah blah... "the greatest" warriors running around with their egos and blunt swords. It's sad I even have to write this here, but I felt the need, so don't feel attacked without reason. My takeaway is that the greatest warrior of light is the one who doesn't even realize they are one—they don't even know others have a name for them. Once again, it doesn't matter who is speaking, but what is being said; excluding someone based on age is fundamentally against instinct. Joseph Cook7, please drop the ego and share your knowledge with us younger folks so we can appreciate your wisdom—there are those of us who genuinely want to 👍
Zachary Cook2 95% of people won't get it. What an attitude—you've shut everyone else out. Don't make me sharpen my axe for battle, warrior of light... those names are great for people who played with Action Man figures as kids, though I worry the gays might reject the title; maybe "Lady of Light" with a mink stole would suit them better, hahaha Check out the places of power thread if you want; I think it has some key elements for reaching a materialistic person. For me, it's enough to give me a "knock on the head"—maybe it's because my IQ is around 150, so I pick things up fast. Otherwise, it's eventually going to end up with 95% of people not understanding anything when it all starts sounding like gibberish. Carlos Castaneda, you aren't getting away from me until Zachary Cook2 and I grab a coffee without all the unnecessary extras, hihihi
Joseph Cook7 said:Well, what you're doing definitely isn't "controlled madness"—that technique is damn complicated, and let's be real, even I haven't mastered it yet. It's not about being uninterested or just acting like a moron because we all have those impulses sometimes. It's actually achieving a total detachment from this world while still staying active within it... basically, having zero internal drives or expectations regarding whatever you're doing. You just try to do your absolute best at a task, and when it's done, you walk away without giving a single damn about the results. I've tried to give you a rough framework for what "controlled madness" looks like, but you can't really explain it—it's more of an internal shift in how you view the entire world.
Is it possible for this to happen spontaneously, even if you have no prior knowledge of the specific technique used to develop it? If you're curious, check out my post under the "Zero State" thread on this subforum; I described my own "symptoms," which have been overwhelmingly positive. What you wrote above is actually a pretty accurate description of that state—your worldview shifts. At first glance, it might look like early-stage schizophrenia, except the person remains lucid and experiences no visual or auditory hallucinations. In those moments, there are no impulses, though the state isn't permanent—it comes and goes. For me, the success at UCLA has been undeniable—not because I'm trying, but because I just go through the motions without any of those nagging questions that don't even exist in my head anymore. Of course, it isn't always pure ecstasy or constant peace; the intensity fluctuates, but there's almost always a baseline level of it present. I just act, without any heaviness, and get great results—results I don't even bother checking for days after they're posted. I just do my thing and move on. Life becomes incredibly simple; you see nothing but love and peace. You aren't driven by ego, greed, or materialism—you simply *are*. Isn't it interesting how almost every spiritual book links development to this feeling, suggesting that the ultimate goal is just maintaining this state constantly?
If you can answer these for now, I have plenty more to ask later—less about this specific "madness" and more about energy and perspective.
wearyowl29 Jesse Sullivan2 said: When we hang out here, how do we actually perceive ourselves? What kind of mental "tool" are we reaching for when we do that reflection?
It isn't about how much we dwell on ourselves—it’s more about the way we approach it. The only tool that actually works is being brutally honest with yourself and allowing room for error, both personally and with others. When you finally step away from the crowd—say, retreating to your own space where nobody's watching—you're left alone with your thoughts. That's when you can actually hear your own inner voice, provided you realize that self-deception and bias are the real enemies. They just kill your spontaneity and make it impossible to forgive yourself or anyone else.
wearyowl29 Jesse Sullivan2 said: Do we just take being human for granted—or is it actually something we need to prove?
We tend to take way too much for granted—we don't really value the gifts we have, nor do we ever tap into our actual potential to love ourselves or others. Honestly, we often take people for granted just because we can't see them as anything more valuable than how we see ourselves.
wearyowl29 Jesse Sullivan2 said: What does it actually mean to be human—what defines us, and what doesn't? How much does tradition actually shape us—and the way we think?
You emphasized being—but to me, being human means making mistakes, provided you actually repent for them rather than just failing without learning anything. We also have certain gifts that other life forms simply don't possess; we should use them and act accordingly. It’s about nurturing our spiritual nature and intellect instead of acting like animals and just following every raw instinct—that always leads to trouble. Tradition carries weight—but those childhood values we were fed? They need a second look through the lens of love. You have to toss out the toxic stuff and actually lean into what's right.
wearyowl29 Jesse Sullivan2 said: Who are we, really? Are we actually free, or have we just tied ourselves to certain things just to feel like we are?🙂
I'm assuming this is about religion—and there are plenty of them out there. Any religion becomes a threat to individual freedom if you let it; on their own, they aren't inherently harmful. Whether it's Christianity, Islam, or even materialism... my take is to toss all that aside and just let love be your only religion.
Zachary Cook2 said:I don't think you get it—this isn't some casual stroll through Central Park.🙂
When it comes to actual knowledge, Kastaned was essentially a once-in-a-millennium bridge—a three-pronged nagual who existed solely to pass this wisdom down through his books. The thing is, this knowledge wasn't even "his" to begin with; it’s Toltec wisdom that's been handed down through generations for thousands of years. He describes both the new and the old types of seers. These "new" ones are warriors—which is exactly what we're dealing with here—focusing on nothing but freedom of consciousness, not some dark, paranoid delusions. The books also touch on the old guard; they lost their way and became black magicians, but they're really just mentioned as cautionary tales—examples of what *not* to do and where they went wrong.
What you're saying about the brain misses the point of left and right consciousness. The right side handles everything you visually perceive, while you have to master the left side to actually grasp the knowledge without needing constant explanations or chatter.
Look, just do some reading. It's not like you can't squeeze in 15 or 20 pages during a break every day. Honestly, just keep a book in there with you when you're on the toilet—that's plenty of time. 😂
Vision? I wouldn't know—I haven't really looked into that. You’d need to slog through a few of his books to get a handle on it, and even then, you probably wouldn't catch everything. I touched on most of what I mentioned above regarding why it might be impossible—I just don't sense much energy behind all this supposed "firmness" Don Carlos talked about. The consensus on the material world tends to do its thing.
Zachary Cook2 said:I don't think you get it—this isn't some casual stroll through Central Park.🙂
When it comes to actual knowledge, Kastaned was essentially a once-in-a-millennium bridge—a three-pronged nagual who existed solely to pass this wisdom down through his books. The thing is, this knowledge wasn't even "his" to begin with; it’s Toltec wisdom that's been handed down through generations for thousands of years. He describes both the new and the old types of seers. These "new" ones are warriors—which is exactly what we're dealing with here—focusing on nothing but freedom of consciousness, not some dark, paranoid delusions. The books also touch on the old guard; they lost their way and became black magicians, but they're really just mentioned as cautionary tales—examples of what *not* to do and where they went wrong.
What you're saying about the brain misses the point of left and right consciousness. The right side handles everything you visually perceive, while you have to master the left side to actually grasp the knowledge without needing constant explanations or chatter.
Look, just do some reading. It's not like you can't squeeze in 15 or 20 pages during a break every day. Honestly, just keep a book in there with you when you're on the toilet—that's plenty of time. 😂
If I actually sat down and read books—as much as I tend to talk trash—I’d probably be a walking encyclopedia by now.
Starting is never the issue—there’s always plenty of time for that. The real problem is once they actually get going—they’ll probably just spend all their time shaving and acting like a know-it-all to push their new "expertise" on friends—kind of like a peacock spreading its feathers, haha. 😂 I finally found some peace of mind recently—just so I can actually enjoy it for a bit. Once I get bored, I might switch up my reading material, though I don't think everything is meant for everyone. Bad content can actually be harmful if you aren't ready for it, or if you just don't "get" it. It’s a waste of time to read something only to walk away without understanding a thing. And what you mentioned applies to reading too—you really need to take a Quotation to heart rather than just skimming the surface.
Zachary Cook2 said:I'll happily tell you what I know, no problem there. But first, go read the books. Once you do, then we can talk about the things you haven't grasped from the reading so we can actually connect the dots. I'm sure Joseph Cook7 can help you out with that too, though probably in his usual way.
Basically, your energetic body is calling the shots on everything, especially your material side—including right now while you're typing or reading this. It looks like a glowing egg, maybe two meters tall. Other people don't just see it walking around here, if that's what you're wondering.
I could show up, but you wouldn't see me—not in your normal state, or in your right consciousness, this one. You'd only be able to see me if your aggregate point shifted into a dreaming position—left along the belt, if that's how you want to put it. That's the only way you can see anyone as an egg, as an energetic body.
Ugh...😁
I get it—or at least, I think I do. I can see things now, though barely, since my center hasn't shifted that far yet. And look, college does its thing; I could load fifty pounds onto my corpus callosum and lift it in sets, but then a midterm hits, crushes me with a hundred pounds, and suddenly my center finds its "rightful place" again.
If this guy focuses on growth through ego-crushing and acting openly toward others—basically through love and kindness—then he's fine, and I’d actually read his books. But if not, or if his knowledge is prone to being misused, then it’s a pass. I read online that he was involved in all sorts of groups, even some black magic circles, which turns me off. I’m curious about your general take on him and his view of reality. From this, I've gathered a bit about what's going on—it's essentially what I've known since I was a kid: correcting our skewed perception (that materialism disguised as a matrix imposed on us and felt as "real" through the left side of our brain). I'm more interested in his method of correction and how positive intentions fit into his narrative.
The craziest part is that anyone with a modicum of knowledge realizes this "matrix" exists; you don't need someone to tell you, you just connect the dots. For me, the biggest eye-opener was reading about how the church used to encourage parents to beat their children if they were naturally left-handed—which basically means their right brain was dominant. They nearly wiped out lefties, so it feels "natural" today that almost everyone writes with their right hand, making the left, logical, material side dominant. It isn't hard to see the logic—or lack thereof—in that, and there are probably plenty of other examples out there that reveal the true nature of the world instead of this materialistic version. Personally, my right side is quite active, but since the world did its thing, everything I knew as a kid, I have to relearn. At least I remember how it used to feel and what my world looked like back then.
Joseph Cook7 said:Trying to explain bilocation—being in two places at once—to someone stuck in a purely materialist mindset is a lost cause. They’re basically trapped by the rules handed down by the mainstream consensus about how physics "must" work. It’s like trying to walk into a remote village in the Amazon and explaining how fiber optics or satellite TV works to people who have never even seen a lightbulb. They just can't wrap their heads around it because their entire map of reality is built on a completely different set of instructions than ours. Honestly, the best way to grasp bilocation is through the Toltec way, but you can't get there unless you're willing to ditch your old worldview for a totally new one. Once you shift that perspective, the whole concept actually makes sense...
Nothing is truly impossible to explain—nobody's born knowing everything, after all, and you have to start somewhere. The older generation should really be mentoring us younger folks; you've got the knowledge, so you ought to have more experience with the non-material side of things than we do. I could probably beat you in a 50-yard dash, though I’m not even sure about that given your claims about having anti-aging techniques—losing would definitely take a toll on my ego. 😉
@Zachary Cook2 It’s actually pretty straightforward if you view your energetic body as the true "you" and the physical one as just a temporary residence. Who’s running the show physically while you're out? And does an energetic body even hold this shape—could you see it in a mirror or would others notice it?
One more thing (the most important part)—if an energetic body can actually be seen, want to grab a coffee sometime? No cheating... leave the physical body behind. Seriously though, I'm not joking, just checking so I don't have a heart attack when you show up.
So, I’m going through this thread for the second time and still haven't found what I'm looking for. You mentioned increasing a person's energy levels, but I could really use some more specifics if you don't mind.. The usual questions: What are you actually using to materialize a double? Where exactly are you pulling those atoms from? How do you maintain control over it—how can one person exist in two places at once, and who's running the show for the double? And what happens to the original? Do you feel the double's pain? How physical is it, really (density, hardness, etc.)?
I think it’s fine for everyone to read up on it—if people can't wrap their heads around your claims, they won't, and if they do, we all win. Some folks just don't have the time for a book, whereas if I start reading it, my Starbucks cup probably won't leave my hand for a while. I see a lot of people getting swept up by him, which carries that risk of getting too carried away—something I definitely don't need right now with college and everything else... Anyway, there are your questions. Your move—get typing, quick, quick, quick....
@Zachary Cook2 From what I can gather, this thread focuses on physical presence in two places at once—not some kind of mental projection. Bilocation is considered impossible, yet everyone keeps pivoting back to teleportation. Current research shows how unstable particles get during teleportation attempts; even then, the original is destroyed just to create a duplicate—which isn't even the original, just a carbon copy. As for teleporting something complex like a human being? Science hasn't even touched that level of difficulty yet. Essentially, the original has to be wiped out to make the replica. Those are the facts.
Theoretically, you "only" need more energy to control the double—but if you ask me, we're talking about an amount of energy that is practically unimaginable. If anyone had actually managed to bilocate, we’d know—because that energy has to be drawn from somewhere. You can't just manifest it out of thin air; you’d have to pull it from the surroundings like a capacitor, store it, and then discharge it all in a microsecond. And don't even get me started on the sheer amount of power required just to keep such a system stable.
I'm curious to hear your take on this—and please, don't feel pressured to write a five-page dissertation, though I think you owe it to us since you're so convinced it's possible. Just keep it brief.
Most people don't have firsthand experience with mental illness—so why would you expect them to be empathetic? Even church leadership lacks that perspective, which leads to blatant discrimination. It creates this glaring contradiction where someone struggling with their mental health is shut out by a Christian community that simultaneously preaches against discrimination. It’s a total joke. I wasn't aware of this dynamic, so I might actually have to ask a local priest what they think—I'm curious to see how this hypocritical institution justifies it. If a person isn't showing any symptoms during their wedding ceremony and is fully lucid, then what's the issue? The sad reality is that unless you're part of the family, most people simply don't want to—or can't—understand those dealing with mental illness.
It’s pretty grim—I get that they want to protect the kids in the marriage and stop anyone else from suffering because of one person's illness, but the church should be preaching love, not this kind of discrimination.
It’s the same old story—there’s no magic fix. In situations like this, you really ought to focus on yourself, but that’s easier said than done. We could probably use an expert on this forum to step in and walk us confused folks through what to actually do. I remember psychiatrists telling me—almost word for word—that they couldn't explain why things were spiraling again when everything had been perfectly fine just before; they called it a cycle that most people fall into, leading them right back to the clinic. As for recovery, you generally need at least nine years without being hospitalized to truly get through it without major setbacks. Personally, I have my own life to live, and I live it moment by moment—I refuse to let this ruin me, not after it already wrecked my dad, my sister, and most of my childhood. Now, my mother can act out all she wants, but I just stay completely numb. I've become used to it—it’s just another day at the office, though it feels like you eventually go emotionally numb, which makes staying "normal" pretty difficult.