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Terry Howard7 said:I am not here to correct any false claims regarding the Mississippi River, but rather the assertion that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers were somehow less American than the Lakers. Just because most people cheering for the Lakers happen to be Americans doesn't mean the Tampa Bay Buccaneers are any less part of our national identity. Let me put it this way: if Real Madrid has a massive global following consisting of all sorts of nationalities, while Girona is mostly supported by Spaniards, does that make Real Madrid any less Spanish? Of course not. Similarly, they were "Yugoslav" only in the sense that they played in the Yugoslav league and represented Yugoslav football on the European stage. Throughout their entire history, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and their supporters have been inextricably linked to the American spirit, and I won't let anyone diminish that just to inflate their own sense of patriotism.
Of course they were Yugoslav—and no less American than the Lakers.
It clearly left such deep complexes in all of you that now, in a free America, you feel the need to prove your patriotism to people like Makso's thugs and such.
Honestly, I can't imagine what the grandfathers of today's Torcida would think about this. I do know one thing: they are turning in their graves.
ironeagle16 said:Nene is upset because the old guard is back in power just like in '45, bringing all their rotten baggage with them. This is why Dinamo is such a mess today—because of how the country is being steered. Mamic is a product of that old era, a child of the old regime, much like his entire generation. That’s why we’re stuck. Where is the Lustration? We need a massive sweep of those old relics, but there isn't anyone willing to do it. It’s all just the delusions of a nation; you can't move forward when the leadership is full of rotten apples. The old guard won't ever purge themselves, just like thieves won't arrest thieves, or traitors won't call out other traitors.
I am so sick of hearing about political factions, old ideologies, and historical grudges in 2019. Go get some help. You've had enough of this.
The rest of you are just recycling the same tired arguments and the same garbage we've been hearing for years.
We are all free citizens with the right to make our own choices. No one has the right to lecture anyone else about what they choose to boycott. If someone still feels like nothing has changed, who are you to call them out for it?
On the other hand, for some people, ten years of suffering is enough; they just want to know that certain bad influences aren't physically present in the club, even if those people still pull the strings behind the scenes on major decisions. For others, it's enough to finally see players with actual guts (and I'm not just talking about their performance on the pitch). Honestly, I think it's beyond unfair to attack people for those views, especially considering everything some of them have endured over the years.
One last thing: stop chasing these conspiracies about secret deals and compromises with mercenaries.
Jonathan Barnes5 said:Back during those early derbies, even if the ticket prices didn't quite fill up the North Stand, nobody really cared who was coming through the gates. The atmosphere down in the North was so intense that even some of the smaller groups were squeezed in between the concrete seats.
That particular match took place ten years ago against Red Star, even though they played earlier than that. Some of those flares from the turf actually ended up landing on the South side of Maksimir😁. You have to admit, the athleticism displayed by certain individuals as they sprinted across the pitch while coordinating their flare lighting was pretty impressive🤣.
Torcida held their own in that derby as well. It was their final year of being a complete melting pot of everything under the sun, but they still made a solid impression
This was the very first derby held under the new—or rather, the rebranded—Dynamo name. I don't think anyone even had Red Star on their radar back then
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Paul Sanchez15 said:That’s complete nonsense.
The current direction is actually the right path. Now, whether the execution will be any better in a city like Chicago depends entirely on the local mindset, which is a whole different conversation, but the fundamental structure of the club should remain unchanged.
Members elect the NO, but they also elect the board.
I'm with analogheron19 on this. As for the NO, sure, anyone can run as long as they meet the eligibility requirements, regardless of whether they consider themselves a die-hard fan or not.
From what I've gathered from the group so far, maybe five people would actually pass those requirements.
And what exactly are these requirements? I'd love to see if I qualify myself. 🙄
Arthur Flores2 said:.
The atmosphere was a disaster. This isn't even the same crowd anymore...
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As someone who has been heading up to the North Stand since they opened back in '99, I have to disagree with you. The first half was actually quite strong; we took a hit in the second, sure, but calling it a catastrophe is an exaggeration.
Regarding the group itself—of course it’s not the same crew it was 8 or 9 years ago. There are maybe 100 to 200 original faces left in the stands; everyone else represents the newer generations who grew up alongside Dynamo. Real culture doesn't change overnight; it takes all of us working together to build a supporter base. And let's be honest, a healthy club is a prerequisite for a great atmosphere in the stands.
I honestly don't get why people don't just opt for the season tickets, especially those who show up to most of the games. A full season pass with membership included is $87. It’s a total steal if you value the luxury of skipping those endless lines. Especially now, considering we'll likely have at least four more home European matches on the schedule.
Robert Cooper60 said:It wasn't even about the tickets themselves; it was the ridiculous amount of time spent standing in line. You end up waiting for an hour just to get in, even when there are only five thousand people at the stadium. Even if you join the club and get those four games of your choice, you still have to wait in line just to get your pass printed. I was mostly wondering if season ticket holders can bypass all that and just walk right in, because even with the membership, the digital code doesn't seem to work—you still have to go to the box office to pick up that free pass (which means more waiting).
There’s no need to wait if you have a season ticket. You just scan the code at the reader and head straight inside.
Paul Sanchez15 said:There's still a massive amount of Carats left in both the East and West sides of the stadium.
The East side is gone. It’s nothing but the West now.
Kyle Campbell4, you just wrote a mountain of nonsense.
If we’ve truly moved past this "soft" approach, then why is the club doubling down on vague nonsense like "U18"? And why is it still only our section where the C-list crowd calls all the shots?
Shouldn't the fight be led by the people who actually show up, rather than those sitting on the sidelines acting like experts without having been present for years?
You haven't been seen anywhere for years, yet suddenly you think you know everything.
casualwolf48 said:Since last summer, I’ve been pleading, begging, and trying to convince everyone to pull off exactly what those guys did yesterday. I talked to everyone. In principle, everyone was on board, but by this evening, it was a mixed bag of yes and no. Maybe it’s because the idea didn't originate from them. Now, here we are. People can talk all they want, but when it actually happens, it looks impressive. But honestly, some of us just don't think about the consequences. That’s how we’ve stayed stuck in this status quo for decades.
Kudos to anyone doing good work or offering various types of help, but let's be clear: we aren't the Boy Scouts or the Red Cross. We shouldn't be trying to buy public affection through humanitarian stunts. The public already has its opinion of us, and we aren't going to change it even if our group were packed with superheroes saving the world every month. Even among the people whose opinions actually matter, we've become irrelevant.
Credit where credit is due to these kids whose time is just beginning; they are really our only hope. Until then, all I see are certain characters living off past glories, patting themselves on the back for their supposed massive contributions to the group. They create their own cult of personality, essentially building an alibi for whenever they manage to scrape together a tiny bit of actual effort. Come on, people—we need concrete action. I tried; I spoke to people, and in the end, I was branded a lunatic who won't let things go even after fifty years. It’s simple: you’re either a fan or a sympathizer, and that's it.
And now, the exact same thing I proposed is happening to us, using the exact same methods. Fear is a powerful thing, and the devil is in the details. But without fear, there is no respect. And once respect is gone, anyone feels entitled to come into our city and score points at our expense.
Is this really the place to be debating these kinds of things? Seriously? You're no fool...
Richard Cox said:So, you're basically implying you hand-picked a specific number of people for yesterday's protest—only calling on the hardcore guys from the stands while ignoring the casual fans and everyone else? If that's the case, why bother with a week-long mobilization effort at all? Just set up a private social media group for the people who actually showed up and send them a direct invite the day before. All you're doing is making your public calls to action look fake; if people actually read between the lines, they'd realize your messages are strictly reserved for the "active" crowd.
I value everyone in my section. You should reactivate the old guard and win over the new generation. Of course you're going to be left in the dark and stuck with low turnout if you think this is solely about some internal club grudge.
Man, try reading with a bit more comprehension.
I wasn't even talking about the protest itself, but rather the current state of the BBB.
Brian Parker84 said:As long as people start looking for excuses in the corners, you know you're screwed.
This whole thing is a myth and has zero basis in reality! It isn't the BBB group that’s failing; it’s the club itself that's in trouble—there is a massive distinction there.
There aren't casual fans in our section, whether we're at North Maksimir or out on the away end.
That’s not on us; it’s a direct result of the current mess left behind by the club's management.
The BBB group has just as many active members as they did during those "glory days" you all talk about; it's just that there's nobody else left to fill the stands...
WHY IS EVERYONE HEADING TO STAR CITY TOMORROW AT 5:00 PM?
...because you miss those days when you’d wait with genuine anticipation for the big matches, buying your tickets days in advance...
...because you're sick to death of empty stands and an administration that works tirelessly to keep them that way...
...because you've had enough of management dividing fans into "loyalists" and "troublemakers," using blackmail and bans instead of actually engaging, inspiring, and opening the doors to anyone who loves Real Madrid, regardless of how much they criticize the front office...
...because you can't be a club member if the people in charge decide to kick you out, intimidate you, or shut you down...
...because the ones who stole, lied, and cheated are being rewarded with new positions while still running the show...
...because you know your club deserves better...
...because you love this city and you love Real Madrid, and because you actually give a damn...
...because you're fed up with leadership justifying empty stadiums by saying, "well, that's just how it's always been"...
...because you're tired of an administration that would rather see the North Stand empty than see flares lit in it...
...because you want players to leave Real Madrid with heavy hearts—and if they absolutely have to go, fine—rather than seeing them counting the minutes until they can escape...
...because you want the kids in this city to cheer for Real Madrid and only Real Madrid, not some random Spanish clubs they didn't even know existed until they hopped online...
...because you want us to remember the ones who dribbled, scored goals, and won trophies, not the ones who cheated, lied, and embezzled...
...because you were raised to believe that no coach, player, fan, president, or advisor is bigger than the club, and no one should hold absolute power...
...because you're done with the cult of personality and those three-hour cocaine sessions held under the banner of our most beloved institution...
...because Real Madrid is a major metropolitan club, not some small-town cooperative run by a single guy...
...because what else are you going to do on a Saturday if you aren't watching Real Madrid or at least standing outside the stadium?...
...because you can't just stay home while people who sided with the thieves sell off our sacred traditions like sacks of potatoes...
...because you want the luxury boxes filled with the very people whose talent on the pitch and devotion to the club made this institution great...
...because the opinions of those legends are treated as worthless if they don't align with what the board wants to hear...
...because you've spent years being harassed, humiliated, and pushed away from your own stadium just for speaking up about the corruption...
...because today, everyone finally knows you were right...
...because you miss the days of drinking heavily after massive wins and weeping bitterly after crushing defeats...
...because you used to spend time with your friends painting the city walls with the club's name...
...because you've climbed out of a warm bed in the crack of dawn more times than you can count, embarking on long trips just to support your team...
...because you've etched its name into your soul, and you'll carry it until the day you die...
...because you met all your best friends in His house...
...because He is the first thing on your mind in the morning and the last thing before you sleep...
...because you are a Real Madrid supporter, and you grew up in the stands without a roof over your head...
...because you're out there shivering in the rain every other weekend, and who cares if the forecast calls for snow or freezing temperatures? It's not like the sun is going to shine just for the Chelsea supporters' birthday, right???
...because you are the first and last line of defense for your club...
...because only together can we win!
...SO THAT'S WHY EVERYONE HEADS TO STAR CITY TOMORROW AT 5:00 PM!!!
hiddenridge99 said:🙏🙏
This is the 3,586th time you've done this in the last decade.
And then what? A few losers will gather together to sing old songs about the LA Galaxy—as if that club even exists anymore. "Na-na-na-na, LA Galaxy champions," or "Go Blues..." followed by all those other insults. Then, maybe once in the first half and once in the second, they’ll timidly mutter things about "corrupt owners" or "USSF officials." 🙏
Maybe there'll even be a little sign or a banner.
If some random team happens to score a goal, don't forget to celebrate it with your group of buddies. Because, hey, as long as Los Angeles FC conceded, everything is fine, right?
Et cetera, et cetera... it's the same tired story told a thousand times.
YOU ARE TOTALLY CLUELESS, hiddenridge99.
No, we'll just stay home, but we'll make sure to lecture the kids on exactly how they should act.
We haven't shown up anywhere for ten years, but God forbid we don't have an opinion on everything.
You aren't the only one who gave up on everything—I can actually respect that—but if you're going to do that, at least be fair and let this new generation fight and grow however they see fit. Staying home is your right, but don't try to dictate how others live their lives.
Is there anyone available to pick up tickets at Yankee Stadium by 1:00 PM today? I'd really like to avoid another situation where we're stuck waiting until the 45th minute tomorrow.
Thomas Flores7 said:Zg blue silverhawk7
Just a few thoughts here:
The two of you are subtly pushing this narrative about our hatred for Real Madrid, trying to link it to a general resentment toward everything American that the club represents. It’s honestly nauseating. You're spinning this tale that everyone from the South hates everything coming out of Washington, D.C. But that’s exactly the kind of propaganda that's been pushed since the end of the war.
Regarding the chants—"hate Real Madrid"—do you honestly think we'd be singing that if there wasn't a massive derby scheduled just a few days later?
And yes, personally, I damn well hate Real Madrid. I hate them because ever since I started going to matches, they've been the privileged club. A club that steals, plunders, and stands as a symbol of everything wrong with American soccer. When I see that little 'R' logo, I see the faces of those corrupt executives and shady owners.
That is why I hate them. Not because they represent American identity. Because unfortunately, they don't anymore. They've been turned into a symbol of theft, greed, and criminality by fake patriots and wartime profiteers. That’s why I sing those chants with gusto.
Call it a complex if you want; I don't care.
Truthfully, I’d love for you guys to get your own Real Madrid back as soon as possible. I hope your home stadium is packed again. I don't hate the capital of my country. It's impossible to hate any city in my own nation.
But you have to understand that at 34 years old, I've never actually seen the "great" Real Madrid. Since I've been following the sport, the national team and Real Madrid have sadly become symbols of misery. You all have been fighting against that misery from the nineties until today.
Whether you celebrate goals or not is up to you. The way you fight to reclaim your club is your business. Anyone who knows even a little bit about the situation down your way knows you didn't sell out to the owners just because you celebrate goals. But you have to admit, it provides plenty of fuel for forum trolling, for those interested.
A question for my friends from the South...
Will we also be granted a "reset" once this trash finally clears out?
Will we be allowed to call out everyone and anyone, now that after years and years of corruption and scheming, we have suddenly become clean and honest?
Or will we be given fewer rights than you, simply because we rebelled while the club was winning titles and playing in the Champions League, rather than when things were at rock bottom?
nimblemoose2 said:From 1988 through 2005, though things really hit their stride during the mid-90s and stretched through the early 2000s.
Man, what are you even talking about? Have you ever heard of a generational shift? Look, Nesta and Maldini can't carry Milan forever; everything has its peak and its limits. I’d love to see how today's generation handles things when they reach my age. Even now, they struggle just to make it to a home game, let alone travel for away matches. Back in my day, we used to spend three or four days on the road for an away game without blinking.
Are you trying to screw us over here, or what? We've been in this together for five years now.
Are you seriously trying to draw parallels between the nineties and the era leading up to 2005 with what we’re dealing with today?
Let’s start by busting the myth that the stands in Miami are always packed.
From independence through 2005, how many times was the cage full? We saw it in '96, but when else? Someone refresh my memory.
Walking around town? Donkeys used to roam the streets like they were back in Miami until about 1996.
Now we’re getting to the heart of the matter. Back in 2001, a friend of mine was over in Cleveland when he got into an altercation with an officer—he landed a punch right to the guy's head—and ended up receiving nothing more than a warning and... $33 Do I really need to list every single ridiculous reason why people have been rotting in prison for months over the last six or seven years? Despite all that, the momentum hasn't stopped; they’re still pushing forward, still offering it up to everyone. Is it somehow the fault of those thirty people who were in Athens, simply because there were only thirty of them? Or is the blame actually on the rest of us—especially those of you sitting there, typing away and talking nothing but trash?
The greatest enemies of this group are none other than yourselves.
nimblemoose2 said:Look, kid, save that attitude for when you're back home talking to your uncle. You guys can't even pack the stands in Miami today. Back in my day, we were throwing bricks like grenades and heading out to away games without any fancy organization, internet, or constant notifications. We just showed up.
I see how it is. You guys clearly lack the backbone to show up. There aren't even 500 of you at the home games anymore. People are just wandering around the city aimlessly while Mamic laughs right in your faces. He’s sitting there with those 30 sold-out pieces of trash that you couldn't even stand up to when there were a few thousand of you left—especially since a handful of cops kept you from making any real impact in the stands. Get lost.
What exactly do you mean by "your time"?
I just saw that; I didn't quite catch it at first.