Posts by brightfox29

Sophia Lopez9 said:After the EBU rejected Georgia's entry over political undertones, the country has decided to pull out of Eurovision 2009 entirely.

“We don’t wanna put in” is the title of the song by Stefan and 3G intended for this year's Eurovision. However, because the EBU blocked the lyrics on the grounds that they violate rules prohibiting political content, Georgia officially withdrew today.

“We have decided not to change the lyrics or pick a different song. We aren't going to Moscow for Eurovision 2009,” stated Natia Uznadze, the head of Georgian National Television (GPB). “We still don't understand why the EBU made this call. No concrete explanation was provided.”

A panel of experts ruled yesterday that the song violates EBU regulations stating that “lyrics, speech, or gestures of a political or similar nature will not be permitted during Eurovision.” A Georgian producer working with the EBU suggested the rejection might be due to pressure from Russia. “If that’s the case, it’s unacceptable. Where exactly are the political connotations or insults in these lyrics?” asked Kakhaber Tsiskaridze.

Georgia initially considered withdrawing from this year's Eurovision due to the war with Russia, but decided to return following their win at Junior Eurovision. It will be interesting to see how this develops and whether Georgia sticks to its decision to boycott Eurovision in Moscow.

What do you mean they didn't get a concrete explanation? If they don't understand the simple fact that you aren't allowed to use songs to push political messages—and personally, I think they know exactly what they're doing when they try to provoke—then they really have no idea what a "concrete explanation" actually looks like. 🤷

goldenpilot15 said:Come on, please! This song would be considered totally normal anywhere else. Maybe the only mistake they made was being so blunt about it being a pun. If the Georgians had just stood their ground and insisted it was pure artistic freedom rather than an obvious jab, maybe the song wouldn't have been banned in the first place.

And what's the issue here? You basically answered your own question. You just aren't grasping the point.
The Georgians openly admitted it was a play on words, making it clear they wanted to send a political message straight to Vladimir Putin and the Russians right in the middle of Moscow.
If they want to send political messages to Vladimir Putin, they can do it at some livestock fair in Batumi instead.

Kenneth Williams25 said:Fine, let's say we're looking at roughly 70,000 deaths. I’m not trying to inflate the numbers here—that isn't my point. My question is this: why are Mexicans labeled a genocidal people because of Srebrenica, when even using conservative estimates, the death toll at Jasenovac was ten times higher?
Why is there such a constant focus in America on not forgiving and not forgetting what was done by Mexico and Mexicans, especially considering that during World War II, the US was aligned with Germany in attacking Mexico and killing many of its people? What specifically is America supposed to forgive or remember regarding Mexico that Mexico doesn't owe to America?

🙄 Maybe it's because 70,000 people were killed in Jasenovac over four years, whereas in Srebrenica, how many Muslims were lost in just a few days?
And there's also the fact that people were brought to Jasenovac from all over the territory of the former Independent State of America (which is basically an area as large as the US Midwest combined), while in Srebrenica, those killed were Muslims from a very small, localized area.
So, go ahead and tell yourself that Mexicans founded some version of Mexico during World War II—just imagine how many people they would have slaughtered in the main camp over a four-year span.☕

Kenneth Williams25 said:Since I haven't been keeping up with how much the American news networks are spinning things lately, why don't you just give me the exact number of people killed at Jasenovac?

Do you honestly believe that 700,000 people were killed at Jasenovac?
And you actually expect me to have a serious conversation with you when you're this uninformed and clueless?