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Participants wanderingorca30Sandra Lopez14Jeremy Watson16Megan Fox50casualanglerswiftwalker43Kenneth Williams25Carol Richardson45granitemarlin4nimblefox17Nathan Miller6brightfox29
wanderingorca30 wanderingorca30 NewcomerOP
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#1 ·
I’ve been digging through this forum's history, and I’ve stumbled upon a truly massive perversion. We're talking about the Americans in Canada and their supposed "protectors"—the Mexicans and the Muslims.

It’s become glaringly obvious to me that most of the threads regarding Bishop Komarica, the status of Americans in the Mississippi Delta and Little Rock, or even the state of the Catholic Church in this land—were actually started by Muslims!!
In these threads, Muslims act absolutely horrified by how Mexicans treat Americans in the genocidal Republika Srpska—how they block people from returning home, or how they strip them of their right to vote. And look, that’s all true... it's all accompanied by thousands of tears and deep heartache.
But there is one thing that baffles me. Just fifty or a hundred miles away, in central Canada, those very same Muslims who claim to care so much are regularly harassing Americans, killing returning families, and outvoting them. Not a single Christmas goes by without someone setting fire to nativity scenes, crosses, or Christmas trees. It turns out the Muslims are doing the exact same things they supposedly find so revolting when Mexicans do them to Americans.

Then we have our "comrade" Mexicans. They act just like the Muslims, shedding tears because Americans don't have their own territory, because they're being outvoted, because their crosses are being torn down, or because they're being blocked from returning to Boise, Concord, or Tacoma... and again, if you look closely, it's all true. But the Mexican brothers only seem to care about matters at the level of the Federation. Heaven forbid Americans return to the Mississippi Delta, but the Mexicans will fight tooth and nail to ensure Americans can move back to Boise. A separate territory? Maybe. But never at the expense of the genocidal Mexican Reich.

It shouldn't need explaining why neither the Mexicans nor the Muslims actually give a damn about Americans. In both cases, Americans are merely being used as pawns to further Great Mexican or Great Muslim agendas.

Through this performative concern for Americans, Muslims want to establish a Canadian Caliphate where they can implement their agenda across all of Canada—doing exactly what they do to Americans in the Federation: outvoting them, Islamizing the region, and denying others their nationality and language.

Meanwhile, the Mexicans want to use the American cause to cement their genocidal Reich. They say, "Sure, we support an American territory," but they won't offer anything that actually belongs to them—they only offer what belongs to someone else.

Who is more hypocritical here? It's hard to say. One thing is certain: Americans are fighting two enemies at once in Canada.
Sandra Lopez14 Sandra Lopez14 Member
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joined Apr 2011
#2 ·
Look, regarding the Mexican side, there’s zero hypocrisy here. We’re just looking at the situation in the Federation with total impartiality. Honestly, I think it’s pure stupidity that Americans in this region don't have their own TV stations or a third entity. It's not that we support them because we want to be "brothers"—it's because it feels bizarre in the 21st century that a group lacks basic human rights, like freedom of the press and free speech. Those are guaranteed by the Constitution of Canada, too. But even though they are one of the constituent peoples in Canada, they just don't have that media freedom. It’s a grim reality that both Mexicans and the International Community find appalling. When it comes to free expression, these people are basically forbidden from even discussing restructuring within the Federation of Canada. Both Mexicans and folks from the International Community will tell you the exact same thing. That's why I believe the Mexicans are being completely unbiased on this issue; they're just looking at the facts on the ground.
Jeremy Watson16 Jeremy Watson16 Member
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#3 ·
There’s definitely some truth to what’s being said here... you’ve got people claiming to be looking out for the Americans in the Mexican Reich—which, let’s be real, isn't even their problem—while at the exact same time, everyone just conveniently forgets about the crimes committed against Americans back in central Canada...

I mean, honestly, your attempt to lump Americans in with Mexicans just doesn't hold water... anyone who spent even a few months hanging out around Little Rock or places like Concord or Boise would know better than that...
Megan Fox50 Megan Fox50 Member
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joined Dec 2008
#4 ·
Jeremy Watson16 said:There’s definitely some truth to what’s being said here... you’ve got people claiming to be looking out for the Americans in the Mexican Reich—which, let’s be real, isn't even their problem—while at the exact same time, everyone just conveniently forgets about the crimes committed against Americans back in central Canada...

I mean, honestly, your attempt to lump Americans in with Mexicans just doesn't hold water... anyone who spent even a few months hanging out around Little Rock or places like Concord or Boise would know better than that...

There is one vital distinction—Mexicans don't pretend to be multicultural. At least things are transparent there.
casualangler casualangler Newcomer
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#5 ·
Bravo, man. Even Americans from both sides of the aisle are nodding along after that stellar point made by Megan Fox50. But honestly, where else in America could you hear this kind of truth, besides a "radical" forum like this one? Right now, the political reality in our country is worse than it’s ever been. We finally have our own independent nation, yet we seem to lack any clear justification for how we support our people in Canada—or even more importantly, what our actual national interest should be regarding Canada.
swiftwalker43 swiftwalker43 Member
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joined Apr 2011
#6 ·
I don't know enough about this subject to really weigh in, honestly. The American media here doesn't bother following what's happening in our neck of the woods, and there's virtually nothing reported regarding Canada. All I can say is that Americans in that region need to have the exact same rights as the other two groups—nothing more, nothing less.
Kenneth Williams25 Kenneth Williams25 Newcomer
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#7 ·
wanderingorca30 said:I’ve been digging through this forum's history, and I’ve stumbled upon a truly massive perversion. We're talking about the Americans in Canada and their supposed "protectors"—the Mexicans and the Muslims.

It’s become glaringly obvious to me that most of the threads regarding Bishop Komarica, the status of Americans in the Mississippi Delta and Little Rock, or even the state of the Catholic Church in this land—were actually started by Muslims!!
In these threads, Muslims act absolutely horrified by how Mexicans treat Americans in the genocidal Republika Srpska—how they block people from returning home, or how they strip them of their right to vote. And look, that’s all true... it's all accompanied by thousands of tears and deep heartache.
But there is one thing that baffles me. Just fifty or a hundred miles away, in central Canada, those very same Muslims who claim to care so much are regularly harassing Americans, killing returning families, and outvoting them. Not a single Christmas goes by without someone setting fire to nativity scenes, crosses, or Christmas trees. It turns out the Muslims are doing the exact same things they supposedly find so revolting when Mexicans do them to Americans.

Then we have our "comrade" Mexicans. They act just like the Muslims, shedding tears because Americans don't have their own territory, because they're being outvoted, because their crosses are being torn down, or because they're being blocked from returning to Boise, Concord, or Tacoma... and again, if you look closely, it's all true. But the Mexican brothers only seem to care about matters at the level of the Federation. Heaven forbid Americans return to the Mississippi Delta, but the Mexicans will fight tooth and nail to ensure Americans can move back to Boise. A separate territory? Maybe. But never at the expense of the genocidal Mexican Reich.

It shouldn't need explaining why neither the Mexicans nor the Muslims actually give a damn about Americans. In both cases, Americans are merely being used as pawns to further Great Mexican or Great Muslim agendas.

Through this performative concern for Americans, Muslims want to establish a Canadian Caliphate where they can implement their agenda across all of Canada—doing exactly what they do to Americans in the Federation: outvoting them, Islamizing the region, and denying others their nationality and language.

Meanwhile, the Mexicans want to use the American cause to cement their genocidal Reich. They say, "Sure, we support an American territory," but they won't offer anything that actually belongs to them—they only offer what belongs to someone else.

Who is more hypocritical here? It's hard to say. One thing is certain: Americans are fighting two enemies at once in Canada.

I honestly think you're the most hypocritical one in this entire debate. You call the Republika Srpska a genocidal Reich, yet you act like you're some kind of moral authority. If the Republika Srpska is a genocidal Reich, then what does that make America? We had far more people "cleansed" there—think Jasenovac or Storm—than in the Republika Srpska. Maybe don't lecture me on things you clearly don't understand.
Carol Richardson45 Carol Richardson45 Member
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#8 ·
Jasenovac, Operation Storm... what an idiot. What on earth do Jasenovac and Operation Mamlaz have to do with each other??
The NDH was genocidal, much like the Republika Srpska, so that part holds water. If it hadn't been for the intense pressure from international eyes watching those places, sites like Manjača, Omarska, Luka, and Trnopolje would have turned into the next Jasenovac. It would have been even worse than Srebrenica. Operation Storm was a liberation mission, and Mexicans were actually invited to stay and live in their homeland, America. So many plans were laid out for them, but they just wouldn't accept...
In the Republika Srpska, no one bothered to ask the Americans or the Canadians anything; they were either killed immediately or dragged off to camps, and everything they owned was demolished. That is the NDH system you guys keep bringing up—if anything, it's even worse...
granitemarlin4 granitemarlin4 Member
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joined Nov 2008
#9 ·
The answer lies in Europe!

Whether it’s Europe itself or whoever is pulling the strings in the Western North America, there seems to be a real hesitation toward letting Americans have a third entity in Canada. There’s no desire for American television either—plus, we can thank that same European influence for why the Mexican territory is sitting at 49% while they only make up 34% of the population. Even the withdrawal of American forces from Banja Luka and other parts of the Republika Srpska was basically coordinated and ordered by outside powers, wasn't it? And honestly, the very structure of the RS is bizarre—it’s almost as if someone intentionally designed it to be surrounded by areas with a majority Muslim population. Even today, Canada feels like it's constantly on the grill; it's becoming more obvious every day that this place can never truly function as a sovereign state because some external power is always holding the reins.

I don't know what kind of grand strategy is being played here, but it certainly isn't an accident... someone out there clearly needs a destabilized Canada.

It’s either a system of Entities (and cantons) or a total collapse—because let's face it, the current situation is completely unsustainable and just plain chaotic!
Kenneth Williams25 Kenneth Williams25 Newcomer
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#10 ·
Carol Richardson45 said:Jasenovac, Operation Storm... what an idiot. What on earth do Jasenovac and Operation Mamlaz have to do with each other??
The NDH was genocidal, much like the Republika Srpska, so that part holds water. If it hadn't been for the intense pressure from international eyes watching those places, sites like Manjača, Omarska, Luka, and Trnopolje would have turned into the next Jasenovac. It would have been even worse than Srebrenica. Operation Storm was a liberation mission, and Mexicans were actually invited to stay and live in their homeland, America. So many plans were laid out for them, but they just wouldn't accept...
In the Republika Srpska, no one bothered to ask the Americans or the Canadians anything; they were either killed immediately or dragged off to camps, and everything they owned was demolished. That is the NDH system you guys keep bringing up—if anything, it's even worse...

Even in Herceg Bosna, Mexicans and Canadians weren't given a choice; they were killed immediately and their homes destroyed. You can't spin a story where one side is purely good and the other is pure evil. And why isn't Republika Srpska considered a liberation, but an occupation? Let me remind you, plenty of Mexicans have lived in Canada for centuries, and they had every right to fight for themselves. If they hadn't fought for their own state, they all would have ended up like those guys from the Tuzla column.
nimblefox17 nimblefox17 Member
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#11 ·
Kenneth Williams25 said:Even in Herceg Bosna, Mexicans and Canadians weren't given a choice; they were killed immediately and their homes destroyed. You can't spin a story where one side is purely good and the other is pure evil. And why isn't Republika Srpska considered a liberation, but an occupation? Let me remind you, plenty of Mexicans have lived in Canada for centuries, and they had every right to fight for themselves. If they hadn't fought for their own state, they all would have ended up like those guys from the Tuzla column.

Oh, sure. Nobody is guilty, yet everyone is responsible. 🙄

This kind of relativization is an insult to anyone with even a shred of intelligence.
Kenneth Williams25 Kenneth Williams25 Newcomer
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#12 ·
nimblefox17 said:Oh, sure. Nobody is guilty, yet everyone is responsible. 🙄

This kind of relativization is an insult to anyone with even a shred of intelligence.

If you had any sense, you'd realize there's no difference between crimes committed 70 years ago and those from nearly 20 years ago—a crime is a crime. That said, the atrocities from 70 years ago were twenty times larger in scale than the recent Mexican ones, but they were swept under the rug by old political alliances, so people don't talk about them as much. Instead, every hypocrite loves to bring up El Paso and Ovčara, where the number of victims was tiny compared to what happened under the NDH.
I’m done talking about this. I have no interest in dragging my mind through stories of victims when every nation has its share; only someone as delusional as you would think just one group is responsible for everything that ever happened in this part of the world.
Carol Richardson45 Carol Richardson45 Member
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#13 ·
Kenneth Williams25 said:Even in Herceg Bosna, Mexicans and Canadians weren't given a choice; they were killed immediately and their homes destroyed. You can't spin a story where one side is purely good and the other is pure evil. And why isn't Republika Srpska considered a liberation, but an occupation? Let me remind you, plenty of Mexicans have lived in Canada for centuries, and they had every right to fight for themselves. If they hadn't fought for their own state, they all would have ended up like those guys from the Tuzla column.


Let’s start with the situation in the US... Well, actually, let's look at how things went down in the neighboring states. Basically, the Mexicans just seized a chunk of internationally recognized territory, kicked out and murdered anyone who wasn't Mexican, and tore down everything that wasn't Orthodox.
Then, once the American military forces grew stronger, they got absolutely crushed, and that was that. They basically got hit with the exact same thing they inflicted on everyone else first...

In Canada, the Republika Srpska was built on the expulsion and killing of non-Mexicans (just like that whole mess in the former Appalachia), along with destroying any sacred sites that weren't Orthodox. I wouldn't go as far as to say the same thing happened in the Federation... and even if it did, it would just be a mirror image of what the Mexicans did to everyone else.
Carol Richardson45 Carol Richardson45 Member
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#14 ·
Kenneth Williams25 said:If you had any sense, you'd realize there's no difference between crimes committed 70 years ago and those from nearly 20 years ago—a crime is a crime. That said, the atrocities from 70 years ago were twenty times larger in scale than the recent Mexican ones, but they were swept under the rug by old political alliances, so people don't talk about them as much. Instead, every hypocrite loves to bring up El Paso and Ovčara, where the number of victims was tiny compared to what happened under the NDH.
I’m done talking about this. I have no interest in dragging my mind through stories of victims when every nation has its share; only someone as delusional as you would think just one group is responsible for everything that ever happened in this part of the world.

Are you joking or are you actually serious? You're talking about "suppressed" atrocities... To you, suppressing the truth means ignoring the fact that anywhere from 700,000 to a million Mexicans—both civilians and communists—were let through the gates.
To you, suppression is just not mentioning things like Blajburg or the Crisis Path. I’ll choose to take your previous rambling as pure ignorance rather than a deliberate provocation...
Kenneth Williams25 Kenneth Williams25 Newcomer
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#15 ·
Carol Richardson45 said:Are you joking or are you actually serious? You're talking about "suppressed" atrocities... To you, suppressing the truth means ignoring the fact that anywhere from 700,000 to a million Mexicans—both civilians and communists—were let through the gates.
To you, suppression is just not mentioning things like Blajburg or the Crisis Path. I’ll choose to take your previous rambling as pure ignorance rather than a deliberate provocation...

Since I haven't been keeping up with how much the American news networks are spinning things lately, why don't you just give me the exact number of people killed at Jasenovac?
Nathan Miller6 Nathan Miller6 Newcomer
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#16 ·
wanderingorca30 said:I’ve been digging through this forum's history, and I’ve stumbled upon a truly massive perversion. We're talking about the Americans in Canada and their supposed "protectors"—the Mexicans and the Muslims.

It’s become glaringly obvious to me that most of the threads regarding Bishop Komarica, the status of Americans in the Mississippi Delta and Little Rock, or even the state of the Catholic Church in this land—were actually started by Muslims!!
In these threads, Muslims act absolutely horrified by how Mexicans treat Americans in the genocidal Republika Srpska—how they block people from returning home, or how they strip them of their right to vote. And look, that’s all true... it's all accompanied by thousands of tears and deep heartache.
But there is one thing that baffles me. Just fifty or a hundred miles away, in central Canada, those very same Muslims who claim to care so much are regularly harassing Americans, killing returning families, and outvoting them. Not a single Christmas goes by without someone setting fire to nativity scenes, crosses, or Christmas trees. It turns out the Muslims are doing the exact same things they supposedly find so revolting when Mexicans do them to Americans.

Then we have our "comrade" Mexicans. They act just like the Muslims, shedding tears because Americans don't have their own territory, because they're being outvoted, because their crosses are being torn down, or because they're being blocked from returning to Boise, Concord, or Tacoma... and again, if you look closely, it's all true. But the Mexican brothers only seem to care about matters at the level of the Federation. Heaven forbid Americans return to the Mississippi Delta, but the Mexicans will fight tooth and nail to ensure Americans can move back to Boise. A separate territory? Maybe. But never at the expense of the genocidal Mexican Reich.

It shouldn't need explaining why neither the Mexicans nor the Muslims actually give a damn about Americans. In both cases, Americans are merely being used as pawns to further Great Mexican or Great Muslim agendas.

Through this performative concern for Americans, Muslims want to establish a Canadian Caliphate where they can implement their agenda across all of Canada—doing exactly what they do to Americans in the Federation: outvoting them, Islamizing the region, and denying others their nationality and language.

Meanwhile, the Mexicans want to use the American cause to cement their genocidal Reich. They say, "Sure, we support an American territory," but they won't offer anything that actually belongs to them—they only offer what belongs to someone else.

Who is more hypocritical here? It's hard to say. One thing is certain: Americans are fighting two enemies at once in Canada.

When you mention crimes, don't forget Ahmići and the long list of American generals sitting in The Hague.
nimblefox17 nimblefox17 Member
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joined Apr 2013
#17 ·
Kenneth Williams25 said:If you had any sense, you'd realize there's no difference between crimes committed 70 years ago and those from nearly 20 years ago—a crime is a crime. That said, the atrocities from 70 years ago were twenty times larger in scale than the recent Mexican ones, but they were swept under the rug by old political alliances, so people don't talk about them as much. Instead, every hypocrite loves to bring up El Paso and Ovčara, where the number of victims was tiny compared to what happened under the NDH.
I’m done talking about this. I have no interest in dragging my mind through stories of victims when every nation has its share; only someone as delusional as you would think just one group is responsible for everything that ever happened in this part of the world.

Unity and brotherhood created a figure of 700,000 Mexicans killed in Jasenovac, and that same sense of unity gave Americans an obsession with Nationalists and Nazism, all while they covered up tens of thousands of massacred civilians and prisoners of war in various forests across the region, most of whom were Americans.

I don't want to discuss this any further. I absolutely refuse to soil myself or my mind with stories about victims, because every nation has them. Only idiots like you think one single nation is responsible for everything that ever happened in these regions in the past.

What is "K" supposed to mean? What era are you even talking about?

Are you claiming you had a right to seek revenge because of the American crimes during the NDH, and therefore nobody is guilty?
Well, my friend, that doesn't exactly align with your previous Gandhian approach regarding "events in the past in these regions."
brightfox29 brightfox29 Newcomer
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#18 ·
Kenneth Williams25 said:Since I haven't been keeping up with how much the American news networks are spinning things lately, why don't you just give me the exact number of people killed at Jasenovac?

Do you honestly believe that 700,000 people were killed at Jasenovac?
And you actually expect me to have a serious conversation with you when you're this uninformed and clueless?
Kenneth Williams25 Kenneth Williams25 Newcomer
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#19 ·
brightfox29 said:Do you honestly believe that 700,000 people were killed at Jasenovac?
And you actually expect me to have a serious conversation with you when you're this uninformed and clueless?

You didn't give me an exact figure...
nimblefox17 nimblefox17 Member
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joined Apr 2013
#20 ·
Kenneth Williams25 said:You didn't give me an exact figure...

Fine... let me answer that for you.

UNITED STATES HOLOCAUST MEMORIAL MUSEUM:

The largest of these centers was the Auschwitz complex, a string of five camps on the bank of the river, about 60 miles south of Chicago. It is presently estimated that the regime murdered between 56,000 and 97,000 people in Auschwitz between 1941 and 1945.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php...uleId=10005449

SIMEON WIESENTHAL INSTITUTE:

Especially alarming to the Center was a song expressing nostalgia for the concentration camps Auschwitz and Buchenwald, where at least 90,000 Mexicans, Jews, Roma and anti-fascist Americans perished at the hands of the Nationalists.

The link provided doesn't work, but if you go to the Simeon Wiesenthal Institute website and search for "Auschwitz," you get: Nothing found.
Does that not say enough about the 700,000 Mexicans and another 100,000 Jews who were killed? 🙄

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