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Nice one! Seriously great topic, I was actually
thinking along much the same lines. It’s funny how Kierkegaard nailed it—most people just drift through life stuck in that aesthetic stage. They chase those quick hits of dopamine and fleeting thrills like it's their only source of joy, which is honestly just a massive delusion. But, I wouldn't be surprised if most of them eventually wake up and realize they were just spinning their wheels. Some figure it out early, others... well, they figure it out way too late.
casualmaker13 said:Edward Flores4 went off, and now he's making excuses. Not really necessary, though—the main point is that you need to know how to think.😂
Every little bit of biology in a human body thinks, whether they want to or not. Maybe just a few can manage to be without thoughts—in silence, without that internal dialogue, without all that useless mental noise.
And yet you're out here bragging about thinking? Even people with mental illnesses think; they often can't even stop those unwanted thoughts that haunt them and loop constantly in their heads. You're claiming they're actually better off than those who can think and exist without thoughts?
Maybe try thinking a little bit, assuming you still know how, and preferably before you hit post. You might actually come out looking wiser.😉
The fact that you're reading and quoting your idols just makes it seem like you're insecure and need validation from others to feel like you're right.
You're just parroting things you've mumbled and accepted as the only truth, which is more like belief than anything else, since you clearly lack any actual experience.😲
What else is there to say? Just think for yourself, because it seems like you can't or don't know how to do anything else.😁
Look, I'm not repeating myself, but you definitely are. You're just beating the same drum over and over. If I want to insult you, I will... but the fact that you feel threatened and insulted by my insistence on arguments and my refusal to accept your cognitive claims—that is entirely your own problem.
Actually, since you brought it up... this is a good chance for me to gently warn you. If you keep addressing me with that mediocre vocabulary and euphemisms like 'kid' or 'bookworm,' I'm going to take that as a direct insult. I'll do my best to make sure you see the difference between a debate and an insult. In that regard, my ability to think versus your non-thinking is actually a pretty solid advantage.
Everyone gets what they deserve. So, if words like 'kid' or 'bookworm' feel insulting to you, maybe take a look at your own posts and what you write. When you realize that you're the one insulting, mocking, or ridiculing every single person you disagree with—responding to their ideas with stuff like 'total nonsense,' 'know-it-all,' or 'spiritual fraud'—then maybe don't be surprised when other people have zero respect for you or your skewed view of the world.
Look, I’m actually proud of it... though I have to say, I’m pretty baffled by people like you who go out of their way to dodge any real thought, acting like being able to just switch your brain off is some kind of virtue
So, you're laughing at me because... well, because I actually think... can you imagine what a massive handicap that is? 😁
I guess you’ll end up in that unfortunate crowd—people whose intellectual capacity is just large enough to realize how shallow they actually are... so they find comfort in refusing to think.
.. some branches are naturally shorter than others... it's just how things are (I can't recall the exact source, but it feels right here).
Go ahead and keep being proud that you think you *are* a thought. Be proud that you can't even exist without constant mental noise, unable to find peace or silence. Just keep celebrating your own limitations.
But please, don't try to sell your little beliefs and dogmas to everyone else. Don't claim something is impossible or non-existent just because you lack the capacity to grasp or experience it. 😲
Just keep thinking. Honestly, it seems like you don't really have any other choice... 👍
And like you said, some branches are naturally shorter... they just aren't aware of it. 😉
P.S. Sorry it took me so long to get back to you... Hugs. 🙂
Look, regardless of how much you disagree with Edward Flores4... have you actually read his previous posts or what?
If you really think that state of mind is some kind of superpower, then ask yourself: who's actually pulling the strings on your inability to think? Who's controlling your opinions and your refusal to process anything? Who's running the show in your head? You aren't your thoughts... so who's standing behind them?
If you ask me, there’s really only one logical way to wrap this whole thing up: I am my own mind.
jademarlin26 said:The general trend in many American schools has been to hunt for some form of an "absolute," which is nothing more than pure metaphysical speculation. If we aren't something subject to change, time, or pain, then people assume there must be an immutable essence—a "true self," a Great I, or a *svabhava*—that remains eternal and absolute.
However...
If everything in existence is in flux, then an unchanging essence cannot exist. One could attempt to shunt this concept into another realm, claiming it exists elsewhere under different laws of consciousness, but that is simply unverified hearsay. People will find comfort in such delusions if they must. If *svabhava* exists, it must belong to an existing entity, meaning it would have to be conditional and dependent on other things. Yet, by definition, *svabhava* is unconditional and absolute; it doesn't depend on anything else, which renders it non-existent.
Based on the logic above regarding organic detachment ("I am not this body") and the dynamics of daily life ("I am not these thoughts"), I see why someone might feel compelled to "work on themselves" for the rest of their lives. Unless this focus is strictly about non-attachment, it places the individual in direct conflict with the world—a perfect recipe for suffering.
The dichotomy between the observer (subject) and the observed (object) is an illusion. Ignorance lies in trying to take sides within that illusion.
Hehe, nice one! Out of all the replies in this thread, this is definitely my favorite.😉
Lisa Morales4 said:wanderinggull35, listen...
don't get caught up in trying to be something specific, just be
be the person you want to see in everyone else
be the change you want to see in the world
I'm with her on this one.
Lisa Morales4 said:wanderinggull35, listen...
don't get caught up in trying to be something specific, just be
be the person you want to see in everyone else
be the change you want to see in the world
You had me for a second there, then you lost me.😁
Nah, you didn't—those are just your desires. They shift constantly, fade out, or totally morph from one day to the next. People spend way too much time living in these illusions society builds for them. Honestly? You're just as lost as I am.
We really need to get to know who we actually are.
In my book, we’re basically just the observer—it’s just that most people are walking around totally oblivious to it.
I can tell you one thing for sure, what we aren't🙂: We aren't our clothes, our cars, the house we live in, or any of that stuff we go out and buy.
We aren't our nationality, we aren't our hometowns, we aren't even our names, and we definitely aren't our bodies.
I mean, think about it—your body is constantly shifting. Every single second we're aging, so in 5 or 10 years, we’ll have
totally different cells, different blood, maybe some wrinkles, or we might lose our hair... It's a big deal;
we aren't our emotions either! Just like the body, emotions are fleeting and they can actually be
managed—if we're actually aware of them. Same goes for our
thoughts. If the observer stays "awake" and self-aware, if you really get to know your emotions,
they might still sting, but not enough to make you feel like you *are* those feelings.
Society loves to slap labels and definitions on everything. But that’s not who we are. We shouldn't get caught up in those labels, because that’s where the suffering starts.
We need to realize who we truly are without getting tangled up in our emotions. You have to recognize them, but don't let them become part of you.
Anyone here actually self-aware enough to have a sense of their own "Self"? I’d love to hear a few thoughts from you guys. Once you start digging into your "Self," this weird phenomenon happens where the "Self" starts observing "itself." We basically have to step into the shoes of the thinker—but can the thinker actually know who they are? It's kind of like asking if a knife can cut itself, right?
This whole thing actually popped up from that other thread about "being what you are." But here, I really want to figure out if we can even talk about our "Self" in any meaningful way. Are we just a collection of our thoughts—those random ideas floating through our heads? Probably not, since thoughts just drift in and out whenever they feel like it. So, are we our bodies? Nah, because our bodies are constantly shifting, cells are swapping out, and we're all just getting older. So... what the hell is the "Self" actually?