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Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Anthony Perez9 said:Check out what our buddy Thoth wrote about this:

The only thing that might be off here is the interview date 🙂. Otherwise, relativity has been around since the days of Roger Boscovich back in the 18th century—he was really the one who laid the groundwork. Then Einstein kind of muddied the waters, before he and Mileva officially published it around 1905, if I recall correctly. It's hard to say who's actually pulling the strings, but everyone seems to be steering it in their own direction...

Here is what someone who has spent a lifetime studying his work has to say about Tesla. Many consider him the world's leading expert on Tesla and his legacy. Our own opinion stays tucked away in the shadows, no matter how much we disagree...

On Tesla
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Anthony Perez9 said:Tesla never actually said or wrote that.

🙂 That's just hilarious. It’s a setup. Just some New Age con artist that naive theists love to spread all over the internet, along with a bunch of other total jokes. 🙂

All we know is that this guy Nikola Draganić, aka Tesla, actually had the nerve to claim in his autobiography that he wanted to be a priest for Lord Jesus—he’d have withered away like a dead plant. He spent all that time hanging out with the great atheist Mark Twain, yet there isn't a single record of him ever praising God or mentioning any kind of deity.

Back to square one again: just a bunch of people playing at religion and expecting miracles from God, while being completely blinded by their own ignorance.

Why's Morgan Brown5 like that?

And yet you're the one projecting "conspiracy theories" onto everyone else. 😕

See ya, dear.

Excerpt from an 1899 interview with Nikola Tesla

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REPORTER: You mentioned that I, like every living thing, am Light. That's flattering, but I have to admit, I don't quite follow.

TESLA: Why should it be clear to you, Mr. Smith? It is enough that you believe it. Everything is Light. Within a single beam lies the destiny of nations; every nation has its own beam within that great source of light we perceive as the Sun. And remember: no man who ever lived has truly died. They have simply transformed into Light and continue to exist as such. The secret lies in those particles of light returning to their primal state.

REPORTER: That sounds like resurrection!

TESLA: I prefer to call it: Returning to a previous form of energy. Christ and others knew this secret. I have been searching for ways to preserve human energy. It is a form of Light, sometimes equal to the supreme celestial light. I didn't seek this for my own sake, but for the good of all. I believe my discoveries will make life easier and more bearable for people, guiding them toward spirituality and morality. -- "Per aspera ad astra"

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Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Harold Doyle3 said:Americans really can claim him, though. He was born here, grew up here, and did his schooling among us... his roots are firmly planted in America.

🤷So, what exactly are those "other circles" supposed to be proud of?

I'm not trying to be negative here. Honestly, everyone in the world should celebrate him. It’s just that somehow, people try to label him as "Mexican" while stripping away his "American" identity. Whatever the case, everyone wants a piece of him, pulling him toward their own side and being incredibly selective about how they view his thoughts and his life...

"Once science spends just ten years focusing on non-physical phenomena, it will advance more than it did in its entire existence up to that point" — that says a lot about his atheism (or perhaps just how little some people actually know)...
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Anthony Perez9 said:Yeah, right. People over there try to claim him as their own, just like they do with anyone else who isn't actually from there or hasn't even set foot in the country. Just another nationalistic myth in a long line of them.

Of course he was an world-class inventor (atheist), someone who couldn't have cared less about nationality or local border disputes. I mean, didn't his passport clearly state he was from the old territory?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Tesla_01082.JPG

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Anyway, back to the topic:

Why did you dodge the whole part about creationism, conspiracy theories, Masonic plots, and all those other superstitions that theists love so much? Isn't it true that God gives them a little extra insight and grants them some kind of knowledge "that us atheists just can't grasp"?

I was using you as the prime example of one of those "bros."😉

I think you’ve got me mixed up with someone else, man. And you're confusing Tesla with atheism... 😉

For instance, I'm not a Mexican, and I don't think Mexicans are claiming Tesla. But he certainly wasn't one, nor was he an American scientist. He spent his entire life working for the good of humanity—a pure altruist. Read his autobiography once in a while and see what he actually stood for. Look at his articles and his thoughts. It’s no wonder you're talking nonsense.
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Anthony Perez9 said:That’s a pretty problematic statement.

She didn't say she was American; she just said she was an American scientist.

He’s not exactly a scientist—more like an inventor and an engineer.

She could have been an Ivy League scientist, a local researcher, some guy from the Midwest... it wouldn't have mattered. She still would've been wrong.

She could've at least mentioned that she was... American. The finder.
Some people just can't seem to wrap their heads around America in a positive way. Am I wrong?

The most accurate way to define Tesla: an American scientist of Mexican descent.

Not even that. There's actually some evidence suggesting Nikola Tesla was an American with the surname Draganić (not to mention he's got that typical American vibe).

Morgan Brown5 is a creationist hack peddling pseudoscience, so I don't take a word they say seriously.

It’s funny how the most religious types are always the first ones diving headfirst into pseudo-science, creationist nonsense, and those wild Masonic conspiracy theories.
What does that say about... To the guy sharing all his wisdom. In their enlightened little heads...Cleaner vibes."?

Isn't that just the whole principle of lies, deception, and spiritual blindness?
(lol)

😂 man, I'd give you anything... but regardless of everything, people still only talk about Tesla being an American scientist in circles of Americans who are just obsessed with him.
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Since we’ve already brought up Tesla, let’s dive into this debate: https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=...ci/8-mgQaiYG9M

Regarding what’s been going on here on the forum: I’ve been sitting here staring at this thread for a while—just mulling it over—and honestly, I can't help but feel like we're missing the forest for the trees. It’s one of those things where everyone is arguing about the minutiae, the tiny little details that don't actually move the needle, while the core issue just sits there, ignored. It reminds me of this time back in Chicago—years ago, mind you—when I was trying to settle a dispute over a simple contract at work. Everyone was shouting about specific clauses, acting like they were legal scholars, when the whole thing was really just about basic trust. We wasted three days on semantics. That's exactly what's happening here. And then you have people like bluebison25 jumping in with these incredibly rigid viewpoints. Look, I get it—structure is fine—but there’s a point where being "correct" becomes a barrier to actually understanding anything. It’s almost like a psychological defense mechanism, isn't it? A bit Jungian, if you want to get technical about it. People cling to their little certainties because the alternative—admitting that everything might be a bit more fluid and chaotic than they'd like—is just too unsettling. I mean, let’s be real. Most of the arguments on this board aren't even about the topic anymore; they're just ego battles disguised as intellectual debate. It’s exhausting. I find myself wanting to just step back, take a breath, and wonder why we feel the need to perform this constant dance of superiority. Anyway, I digress. My apologies. I tend to wander when I get worked up, but I think the real takeaway should be that we need to stop looking for "wins" in these discussions and start looking for clarity. If we can't do that, we're just spinning our wheels in the mud.

And this is how it actually looks:

From: Jelena Suran
February 1, 2011
Subject: Pseudoscience at the Technical Museum? I was wandering through the Technical Museum the other day—just taking a quiet stroll, minding my own business—when I stumbled upon some exhibits that honestly left me feeling a bit... unsettled. Not just because of the dust, mind you, but because of the sheer amount of pseudoscience being presented as established fact. It’s quite jarring when you expect a temple of industry and engineering, only to find yourself staring at claims that wouldn't hold water in a high school science fair. It brings to mind those old debates we used to have about what constitutes "real" discovery versus mere speculation. You know how it goes—one minute you're looking at a beautifully preserved steam engine, and the next, you're being asked to believe in something that defies every principle of physics we hold dear. It feels almost disrespectful to the legacy of actual innovators like Nikola Tesla. He was a man of rigorous, albeit visionary, thought, yet here we are, blurring the lines between genuine breakthrough and pure fantasy. I can't help but feel a bit heated about it, actually. There's a certain dignity required when preserving history, a commitment to truth that seems to be slipping through the cracks. If we start treating every fringe theory as if it belongs alongside the giants of American industry, aren't we doing a disservice to the very idea of progress? It’s one thing to explore the "what ifs," but quite another to present them as settled science in a public institution. It’s frustrating, truly. One would hope for more intellectual rigor in a place meant to honor our technological heritage.
To: renato.philip@technical-museum.com

Dear Mr. Philip,

As a young scientist working within the academic community, I feel compelled to weigh in on that lecture Drag Plečko gave today over at the Technical Museum.
I honestly think that lecture serves as a perfect case study for just how far society in America has fallen—it’s actually quite alarming. We’ve reached this point where people are openly flirting with pseudoscience, almost as if they're proud of it. It’s this irrational, desperate sort of dancing around facts, and frankly, it’s exhausting to watch.
So, what’s the next move on this ridiculous agenda? Are we actually going to reach out to Vidovit Milan in 2012 and ask him to facilitate some sort of cosmic chat with Nikola Tesla? Honestly, the sheer absurdity of it all—just sitting there waiting for the next leap in logic.
Maybe you’ll try to hide behind those tired old buzzwords like "open-mindedness" or "freedom of speech"—or perhaps you'll just label us as "rigid" because we still hold onto what we believe to be true. Paranormal nonsense. Honestly, just more of the same absolute rubbish floating around out there. An insult to the human mind. Truly.
The real question here—and I mean this sincerely—is whether you actually grasp how people like Plečko take the hard-won scientific breakthroughs that have fundamentally advanced our world and just... twist them? It’s honestly infuriating. We are talking about truths built upon the grueling, relentless dedication of countless brilliant minds—people like Nikola Tesla, for instance—who spent their lives pushing the boundaries of what we know. To see those legacies being manipulated or distorted by certain individuals is nothing short of a disgrace.
Charlatans like Plečko. They present these insights as if they were reached through some supernatural, unexplainable means—as if there's no logical path to them at all. It’s always the same pattern, isn't it? They wrap everything in this cloak of mystery to avoid actually explaining the mechanics behind it. Honestly, it's a bit exhausting to watch.
Do we really need all this empty mysticism? Honestly, I find myself wondering—is there any actual substance here, or are we just circling the drain of pseudo-intellectual nonsense? It feels like we’re constantly being fed these hollow, mystical narratives that serve no purpose other than to sound profound while saying absolutely nothing at all. It's exhausting, frankly.
Why can't we just present Tesla to the world as a creative, brilliant scientist who reached his breakthroughs through sheer grit and logical reasoning—rather than suggesting he just had some mystical chakra activation during a hypnagogic state? Do people actually grasp how absurd this whole narrative is? It’s honestly insulting... it completely cheapens the actual, grueling labor Tesla poured into his life's work. I mean, really, how much does this undermine the legacy of Nikola Tesla?
Keep these questions in mind tonight, especially as a demonstration honoring one of America's greatest scientists of all time is being opened by one of today's most prominent American pseudoscientists.

Best regards,
Jelena Suran

Anyone can claim to be an expert on Tesla. I don't know who this Plečko person is, but... if she actually took a moment to study some of Tesla’s specific ideas and conclusions, her "official scientific" stance would probably lead her to conclude that Tesla was just a much more powerful version of someone like him... 😁

Whether he’s actually an American... that's where the heated debate starts... 😁 There’s no way that official was being objective... she definitely wasn't an American. And just to be clear, I'm not a Mexican either... if that makes any difference. 🙂
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:I was referring to official, accredited science. But what you're bringing up here—representatives of that very same science have actually formed a dedicated topic on this forum. And there, they absolutely MOCK every possible alternative theory.

The official scientific consensus is essentially this: !!!!!!!!!!!!
Up until now, I’ve actually tried—really, I have—to help soften the blow for these types of scientists and make their views a bit more palatable. But honestly? It's been a waste of breath. As long as certain concepts can't be backed up by hard, empirical data, they're going to stay stuck in the realm of pure speculation. No matter how much we want them to be true, science doesn't work on wishful thinking.
Anyway, here's another one of my threads if you're interested:

I'm talking about the plate, you're talking about the wedge. 😁

When you say "mainstream" science, who defines it? Science itself? Or is it just determined by whoever holds the biggest lobbying power for research grants? Unfortunately, true critical thinking in academia is rare; instead, we see mostly ego, which makes the whole game pretty uninteresting. And honestly, what we’re discussing here is mostly how things work in our neck of the woods... in the West, things have been different for much longer.

You might be missing the systematic monopoly that "official science" maintains over public opinion—not to mention the stranglehold they have on medicine and pharmacology. Science isn't one single playground; it's thousands of them. If someone thinks their specific niche is the alpha and omega, or that theoretical physicists hold the keys to understanding both the universe and humanity while everything else is just smoke... well, that's just their own limitation.

On the flip side, there are countless scientific institutions dedicated to fields far beyond pure materialism. There is even a global association of anti-relativists—scientists from all over the world proving that STR is essentially a century-old farce. I could send you a list of these researchers; they aren't looking for criticism, they're fighting to save physics itself.

I've never been one for conventional wisdom, and I don't consider it the foundation of everything. Sure, facts exist in every branch of science, but when you talk about a "scientific paradigm" as if it's the only "recognized science," I have to disagree. Just looking at Tesla's work, you see phenomena that fundamentally debunk many of today's so-called "proud" pseudo-theories. They aren't even proven because they aren't truly theories—they're just media hype... a total waste of time compared to more relevant realities.
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:Mainstream science views your ideas as nothing more than hearsay and folklore. Meanwhile, religious folks will probably just label your theories as satanism.
I've actually opened a few different threads regarding this exact type of knowledge:


And I even wrote about one specific case here.

And which science, exactly, are you referring to? I don't claim to be a scientist, though I do take an interest in the field.

Take Dr. Vuk Stambolović, for instance. He’s a social psychology professor and a researcher at the University of Mexico City's medical school. Through his own work and the results produced by energetic spiritual medicine, he’s managed to secure its legal standing as part of integrative medicine—essentially giving these auxiliary methods equal footing alongside allopathic medicine. This has opened the door for the US to utilize 18 alternative methods as supplements once again. Now, whether everyone can practice them is a different story, and whether people just do it for fun is yet another...

"As Thomas Kun, a historian of science who introduced the concept of the scientific paradigm into academic discourse about half a century ago—defining it as a specific way of viewing and interpreting humanity and the world—explained, science isn't just a steady, incremental build. Kun showed us that science is discontinuous. Dominant scientific knowledge doesn't just grow; it gets replaced by entirely different worldviews that render previous facts irrelevant. While there are still attempts to trace certain medical fields back to ancient healers like Hippocrates or Asclepius, there is a growing acceptance of Kun's view: scientists aren't necessarily discovering 'new' truths, they are often just confirming what is already generally accepted. To find true new knowledge, one has to take off one set of glasses and put on a completely different pair."

In other words, the science you're talking about is either thirty years out of date, a mere relic of modern medicine, or stuck within the rigid materialist core of Darwinism or relativistic physics circles. What I am discussing is energy-information science. It has results proven through scientific method and practice, led by a PhD, a researcher, and a tenured academic. He works within the realm of healing and energy—areas outside the materialist concepts you mentioned. So, let's not confuse cosmic theories with applied science. You can't exactly prove the existence of God through a lab test, after all.

Perspective is such a relative thing. It's not quite fair to say all believers are dogmatically indoctrinated. Many people I know who understand these things are deeply religious without being dogmatic... much like myself. As for whether official church institutions would call this satanism? Honestly, I couldn't care less. Back in the 17th century, the Church banned the waltz because it was considered a "satanic" dance. I suspect in another hundred years, those views will have shifted enough that it won't even be a conversation...
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:So, you think negative thoughts can actually affect the collective unconscious? Personally, I find their power to be pretty weak. Some people—let's call them sages—actually believe humans have the power to purge that negative energy. For instance, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi introduced different levels of meditation specifically so practitioners could "cleanse" the Earth of that negativity. In technical terms, they call it the MAHARISHI EFFECT.
How much truth is actually in that? Well, Mr. Plećka described it perfectly in one of his books: "While a couple thousand meditators were jumping around in a few circus tents, a handful of thieves broke into dozens of cars belonging to those very same jumpers." 😲😂

As for the theory that people are solely responsible for their own illnesses, I am wrote the following:

If you ever find yourself hanging out in heaven with my neighbor and my aunt—just a hypothetical scenario, of course—you aren’t going to have much luck selling them on that theory. You could probably convince my neighbor that he ended up there because of lung cancer caused by smoking two packs a day—he was a heavy smoker, a real habit, you know? But my aunt? There is absolutely no way you're convincing her she’s responsible for her own fate, dying from tuberculosis when she was only twenty-two.😲

I’m not quite sure what you mean by the collective unconscious. If you’re using the Jungian definition, I don't think Jung himself meant exactly that... A country's aura isn't the collective unconscious. There are plenty of things we don't understand, but I doubt either Jung or you were referring to that specifically.

But here's what I do know, and I stand by it—negative thoughts and stress manifest energetically from the brain. Think of the brain as a relay; it emits spherical waves of thought. It's energy, obviously, not matter. However, because of their specific nature, negative thoughts react like a "chemical reaction" with a certain type of energy in the aura, creating a third kind of energy—what I call "energetic jelly." It acts almost like a sticky substance. This structure builds up within the aura, and the more of this "jelly" there is, the more it disrupts or completely blocks the flow of white bioenergy (chi, or ki) through the meridians in the aura. That flow is vital, not just for an individual's health, but for everything else. I won't bore you with the details of how disease develops or how energetic healing sessions work...

Maharishi's principle is theoretically sound, but there are so many variables. For instance, you could have 1,000 people praying with very weak capacity and achieve practically nothing energetically. Meanwhile, one person with high capacity could have an extraordinary impact. I won't even mention Christ or others... We aren't asking people to gain cosmic powers to manipulate the Earth's aura; it's enough if they just stop damaging their own.

Benjamin Taylor6 said:So, you think negative thoughts can actually affect the collective unconscious? Personally, I find their power to be pretty weak. Some people—let's call them sages—actually believe humans have the power to purge that negative energy. For instance, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi introduced different levels of meditation specifically so practitioners could "cleanse" the Earth of that negativity. In technical terms, they call it the MAHARISHI EFFECT.
How much truth is actually in that? Well, Mr. Plećka described it perfectly in one of his books: "While a couple thousand meditators were jumping around in a few circus tents, a handful of thieves broke into dozens of cars belonging to those very same jumpers." 😲😂

As for the theory that people are solely responsible for their own illnesses, I am wrote the following:

If you ever find yourself hanging out in heaven with my neighbor and my aunt—just a hypothetical scenario, of course—you aren’t going to have much luck selling them on that theory. You could probably convince my neighbor that he ended up there because of lung cancer caused by smoking two packs a day—he was a heavy smoker, a real habit, you know? But my aunt? There is absolutely no way you're convincing her she’s responsible for her own fate, dying from tuberculosis when she was only twenty-two.😲

People tend to believe whatever suits them. Even if someone accepted that their own thoughts and stress are the root cause of over 80% of all illnesses—which is essentially the core of Buddha's teachings, or Tad's lesson that "your life is a reflection of your thoughts"—they would still have to put in massive effort to change their mindset. For most, that's a Herculean task... nearly impossible, really, because they're too overwhelmed to even move.

In the end, what are people who pursue spirituality actually doing? As simplified as I want to make this, and regardless of all the mystification people love to attach to things, we are all essentially working in parallel—through different forms, stories, lessons, and experiments—to reduce negative thoughts. We try to clean our auras so we aren't "adding fuel to the fire." Spiritual paths are so diverse there's no single rulebook, but without a clean aura, any progress is just window dressing. A clean aura is what allows for true spiritual growth. Now, if someone thinks their negative thoughts aren't doing any damage... well, that's their business.

People with incredibly clear auras tend to have a pretty aligned way of thinking. It’s just how it works... they don't carry much negative mental baggage, which creates the perfect foundation for serious spiritual growth.
The rest of us on this forum? We're all either clawing our way toward that, or we've been spinning our wheels in circles for years...

The fact that someone might pass away from tuberculosis at 22 doesn't disprove this principle. Think about it—there are thousands of babies whose nervous systems are compromised right at birth because of a traumatic, agonizing labor. They experience the most intense negative thought possible: pure terror for their own survival. That trauma can be so deep that a potentially healthy infant is born into a state where a devastating illness develops just months later. Doctors always have a convenient excuse, a sort of divine justification... maybe it's actually better that they distance themselves when they don't understand the root cause, simply labeling it as "genetics."

And then there's the tendency to blame cigarettes. If people are going to smoke anyway, they might as well have an excuse to quit. I’m not saying smoking is healthy—of course it isn't—but it doesn't cause as much damage as people claim. If smoking was the sole driver of lung cancer, why does the data show so many non-smokers getting it too? If one thing truly caused a disease, everyone would be catching it, yet you see people smoking until they're 100, while others drop off at 11 like some unlucky souls in a different era. That suggests the real cause lies elsewhere. Some people fixate on diet, which is fine, but doctors usually only start preaching about nutrition once a patient's health is already shattered. At that point, the person is "full to the brim," and even good news can trigger a heart attack because their body can't handle any kind of reaction anymore.

Broadly speaking, modern medicine hasn't actually identified the primary cause of most diseases, nor do they truly know how healing happens. All those intense debates over diet and nutrition are really just symptoms of not understanding the actual mechanisms at play. Still, medicine tries to find its way through trial and error, much like a blind chicken pecking at grain... or like the founders of certain psychological disciplines who tortured patients in various ways. Even today, they continue to do harm through sheer ignorance, largely because their hands are tied by having to answer to Big Pharma. It’s a tough road for anyone seriously ill; often, medicine just ends up prolonging the agony.

I went through a "terminal" illness once myself. No need to go through it twice...

Let's get back on topic 😁
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Benjamin Taylor6 said:For certain things, man is truly to blame. Wars, looting, killings, assaults... but for other things, nature is the culprit: earthquakes, volcanoes, tsunamis, floods, fires, epidemics... And very often, a mathematician gets tangled up in our misfortunes too. That would be Mr. Johann Carl Friedrich Gauss. So many things are nothing more than a matter of statistics.
And the only way to defeat statistics is through knowledge.

I'm with you there. I was strictly referring to what we call the "Human factor."

An epidemic is also a human issue. Stress and negative thoughts wreck the immune system, leaving us vulnerable to acute illnesses. In a way, we're the ones at fault.

There’s another layer to this. Negative human thought acts like a spherical wave with specific properties, reacting with the planet's energy or the Earth's aura. This creates a dense sort of "fabric" or energetic sludge. If enough of it builds up, it has a massive negative impact on how the Earth functions normally. With over 7 billion people on the planet daily, each churning out thousands of negative thoughts, we aren't just hurting ourselves; we're damaging the Earth's aura as a living being.

The planet reacts to this more than once—though I won't say every single time. Just as humans follow a certain pattern of cause and effect, the planet follows its own laws and reactions. We understand how exhaust fumes affect the air, drive wind currents, trigger tornadoes and tsunamis, or damage the ozone layer. It's just that science hasn't yet caught up to the fact that the Earth's aura also reacts on an entirely different level.

So, even if it sounds wild to some, one of the most significant missions Christ carried out was precisely cleaning the planet's aura from the fallout of human negativity—clearing out those thoughts that cluster in the Earth's aura like tumors in a human body. Tesla's work and his inventions serve a similar purpose, even if all we see now are billions of engines scattered across the globe serving our own personal convenience.

Did Christ not "wash away our sins"? Sure, but he did it by cleansing the consequences of those sins. He tried to provide the original teachings intended to help people fix their way of thinking, thereby reducing negative thoughts and allowing for automatic spiritual progress. Without that, neither we nor the Earth would exist today; we’d probably look more like Mars. Unfortunately, those original teachings lost their positive power because they were repeatedly altered and distorted over time. We know the results of that through the Inquisition and countless "religious" wars.

Of course, not every natural disaster is caused by the Human factor, but many of them are... both the ones we know about and the ones we don't.
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
Ronald Nelson2 said:If Satan or God didn't exist, there would be no balance in the world. It would be either absolute evil or absolute good. If God were to completely wipe out evil, life itself would lose its meaning. Everything would be perfect. That is why a person has to fight against Satan on their own.
Satan pushes a person to commit evil. God never sleeps. If you turn to Him, He is there. It is we who need to stay vigilant, not Him.

Is there actually any kind of balance in the world? And by "world," let's be clear, I mean human civilization... 🤷

Honestly, things are such a mess when it comes to how people think and act that it feels like there isn't even a "higher power" up there to balance things out. But then again, it’s been this way for a long time...

Evil only exists among people, and it comes from them. No one can force a person's will—except when we do it to ourselves. We're the masters of our own fate, and God doesn't really have anything to do with it, especially regarding evil. As for "Satan," he isn't some cosmic rival to the Creator. He's more like an old-fashioned way to explain the chaos of the human spirit. It's a taboo, mystical concept used as an easy answer for why bad things happen, mostly because human ego won't let us take responsibility for our own actions...

And why bother playing that game? If you frame it as a battle between God and Satan, they somehow end up working in harmony through their opposition. It's a lovely, naive myth: "The world is a beautiful, balanced place; we need evil to appreciate good." But we've come a long way since the Stone Age, and circumstances have changed—mostly for the worse. For many people, life just as it stands today doesn't make much sense at all...

The world itself is a wonderful place, but humanity has lost its way. We are responsible for all the misery we cause. It seems like atheists get that better than anyone, except for those who still look at human progress as something to be celebrated...
Why doesn't God share His knowledge? in Religion ·
wearyowl29 said:I think Morgan Brown5 was trying to say something there, but it just cut off! It’s like when you’re halfway through telling a great story at a backyard BBQ—you know that feeling?—and someone suddenly interrupts you before you can get to the punchline. Just a single letter hanging there in the void. I'm sitting here with my coffee, wondering if they hit "send" too early or if their internet decided to take a sudden vacation. Hopefully, they'll come back and finish that thought soon!
I’ve only ever heard about one all-encompassing Creator who is pure love, but as for a second one? Honestly, I haven't a clue!

Maybe...

I hear where you're coming from, I really do! But if I could just jump in for a second and add a little something to that thought—let’s look at this through the lens of how human civilization actually evolves, rather than just following the lead of some local preacher. When we receive help from the Creator, it comes from a divine source in a purely divine way. It isn't something our limited, fragile little minds can fully wrap themselves around, no matter how hard we try to interpret it. People have this deep-seated need to make sense of things, of course, but that often leads to them twisting the original wisdom. They take what those who truly understood the truth were trying to pass down and end up distorting it over time. It happens all the time! We try to force the infinite into these tiny, human-sized boxes, and that's where the message gets lost.

It’s just not possible for us to play any differently! We don't have the right tools, and honestly, we haven't even mastered all the rules of the game yet. It's like trying to walk onto a stage at Madison Square Garden without knowing a single note of the sheet music—you're just going to stumble!

People like that? They’re incredibly rare. Honestly, they’re almost one of a kind! It’s their specific calling, you know? I truly believe that real help is divine in nature. It’s all about the higher plane—focusing on those grander goals rather than our tiny little whims. I was thinking about this the other day while grabbing coffee, and it hit me: these beings actually know what we need much better than we know ourselves! Our own input doesn't really move the needle much. It either aligns with the cosmic blueprint, or the connection just doesn't happen at all. It’s all pre-ordained, really. These specific incarnations are already set in motion to handle these tasks, ensuring everything unfolds with absolute perfection. It's quite beautiful when you think about it!

When you have people like that running the show, they inevitably build an organization around themselves. And honestly? That’s where the real trouble starts. It turns into this self-serving loop where the system exists just to sustain itself, rather than actually doing what it was built to do. I saw this happen once at a local non-profit back in Chicago—once the bureaucracy took over, the actual mission just kind of evaporated. It becomes all about the structure, not the purpose!

It’s because we’re just so underdeveloped... maybe things will actually start to change in the next thirty years or so...

wearyowl29 said:I think Morgan Brown5 was trying to say something there, but it just cut off! It’s like when you’re halfway through telling a great story at a backyard BBQ—you know that feeling?—and someone suddenly interrupts you before you can get to the punchline. Just a single letter hanging there in the void. I'm sitting here with my coffee, wondering if they hit "send" too early or if their internet decided to take a sudden vacation. Hopefully, they'll come back and finish that thought soon!
I’ve only ever heard about one all-encompassing Creator who is pure love, but as for a second one? Honestly, I haven't a clue!

Maybe...

I hear where you're coming from, I really do! But if I could just jump in for a second and add a little something to that thought—let’s look at this through the lens of how human civilization actually evolves, rather than just following the lead of some local preacher. When we receive help from the Creator, it comes from a divine source in a purely divine way. It isn't something our limited, fragile little minds can fully wrap themselves around, no matter how hard we try to interpret it. People have this deep-seated need to make sense of things, of course, but that often leads to them twisting the original wisdom. They take what those who truly understood the truth were trying to pass down and end up distorting it over time. It happens all the time! We try to force the infinite into these tiny, human-sized boxes, and that's where the message gets lost.

It’s just not possible for us to play any differently! We don't have the right tools, and honestly, we haven't even mastered all the rules of the game yet. It's like trying to walk onto a stage at Madison Square Garden without knowing a single note of the sheet music—you're just going to stumble!

People like that? They’re incredibly rare. Honestly, they’re almost one of a kind! It’s their specific calling, you know? I truly believe that real help is divine in nature. It’s all about the higher plane—focusing on those grander goals rather than our tiny little whims. I was thinking about this the other day while grabbing coffee, and it hit me: these beings actually know what we need much better than we know ourselves! Our own input doesn't really move the needle much. It either aligns with the cosmic blueprint, or the connection just doesn't happen at all. It’s all pre-ordained, really. These specific incarnations are already set in motion to handle these tasks, ensuring everything unfolds with absolute perfection. It's quite beautiful when you think about it!

When you have people like that running the show, they inevitably build an organization around themselves. And honestly? That’s where the real trouble starts. It turns into this self-serving loop where the system exists just to sustain itself, rather than actually doing what it was built to do. I saw this happen once at a local non-profit back in Chicago—once the bureaucracy took over, the actual mission just kind of evaporated. It becomes all about the structure, not the purpose!

If we had enough people like this, we’d actually have a critical mass... and then maybe, just maybe, we could finally call ourselves a civilized society.
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wearyowl29 said:That would mean we’re in trouble, because if we're desperate enough for answers, we'll jump at any story involving a higher power...

I’ve only ever heard of one all-encompassing Creator who is love. As for anyone else, I wouldn't know.

wearyowl29 said:I think you missed the point—if you look at the core essence of everything, it always comes back to the human being. When something comes from a divine source, it's received through a human lens, not a divine one.

I get where you're coming from, but I'd add a small caveat—based on how American civilization evolves rather than what some preacher says. Divine help arrives in a divine way, not however a weak human mind imagines or interprets it. Even if people feel the need to do that, over time they just distort the original wisdom of those who actually understood what they were passing down.
People tasked with preventing that are incredibly rare. True help is divine and based strictly on a higher plane or specific goals. Those forces know what a person needs better than the person does. Human influence doesn't play much of a role here—you either align with it or it doesn't happen. It’s all part of predetermined paths meant to ensure things work out optimally...

wearyowl29 said:What kind of results...?🤷

I have no idea what anyone else is looking for or what their goals might be. I was speaking indirectly about results in relation to my own story. What specific results matter isn't really the point here—we were supposed to be discussing principles...
If someone isn't sure about their own progress, or if they can't see any actual results after twenty years of work—when their goal was likely growth—then they probably aren't even on the path they think they are.

wearyowl29 said:Staring at the sky is usually just a lapse in logic. We tend to mistake what we *want* to be true for what actually is... or maybe just pieces of a truth that don't quite fit the whole picture.

I’m with you on that.
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Benjamin Taylor6 said:I’ve spent quite a bit of my life wading through the sheer volume of spiritual movements and organized religions out there—just me, sitting there, trying to make sense of it all. But here’s the thing: when you actually sit down to do the work, the practice is worlds apart from what those theoretical frameworks claim. It just doesn't line up. The reality is that what’s written in the holy books or preached by some supposed sage often fails to hold up under scrutiny. If these teachings only manifest for a tiny, hand-picked group of "chosen" individuals, then they aren't really universal truths at all—they're barely even reliable guides. Honestly, if it only works for a select few by pure luck, then we aren't looking at a doctrine; we're just looking at a series of coincidences.

And at the end of the day, even if we decide this was all just some elaborate flight of fancy—or just one more way to interpret things (though I’m damn sure it isn't)—it doesn't really matter. The thing itself is so profoundly brilliant and layered that it works on you. It slowly stirs up the best parts of a person, fundamentally shifting your life for the better in ways that are both permanent and deeply nuanced. Honestly, once that happens, the whole debate becomes secondary. It makes you realize the truth behind that old saying by John of the Cross: "It is better to be healed unscientifically than to die strictly by the book."

Everyone dies. It’s just one of those things—some people go out via science, some through pure superstition, and others somewhere in that messy, gray area in between. I was thinking about this earlier while driving past a local clinic—it’s all so unpredictable. Take that Ayurveda specialist who used to travel down to San Diego to teach folks about holistic living; he died in a car wreck. Just gone. He was sixty-two years old. And there we were, sitting around listening to him lecture us on how to live to be a hundred... quite the irony, don't you think? 😢🙂

It’s certainly no Quote : fairy tale—and anyone telling you otherwise hasn't done the work. How can you possibly know for sure? You can only establish that once you've truly dedicated yourself to the matter and gotten deeply acquainted with the nuances of it. And let’s be honest, that takes time—real time. I don't want to assume we're all losing our minds over here, though I won't speak for myself—I'll stay out of my own way on that one—but there are serious professionals out there who have spent fifteen or twenty years immersed in this field. At the end of the day, those experts are going to tell you exactly what I am.

They say it doesn't matter if a cat is white or yellow—all that matters is whether it actually catches the mice. I’ve always found a certain truth in that, even if it sounds a bit blunt. If something truly holds value, it has to be moving in the right direction, and after fourteen years of this journey, I can tell you with absolute certainty that I am. My enthusiasm hasn't faded one bit—in fact, far from it—it’s actually been intensifying over time. But it’s different now; it's more grounded. I feel more stable, healthier, and somehow... calmer? I’ve become more tolerant, my perspective has sharpened, and my ability to sense and process energy has become much more intuitive. I feel like a better, more compassionate human being—maybe even a bit smarter, though, being young as I am, I suppose I should probably chalk that up to wishful thinking for now. 🙂 Well, I’ll probably check back in here in about 14 years once I’ve had enough time to actually process everything—though by then, you’ll likely have racked up several times as many posts as I have, Benjamin Taylor6.

If something actually works, then it’s a win in my book. Even if we're talking about eating sea cucumbers—which, let's be honest, sounds a bit ridiculous—it doesn't matter if we can't scientifically prove why it helps. 😁 What matters is that we're seeing results from some kind of theory, even if that theory turns out to be completely wrong.

I'm with you on that...

What I follow, practice, and actually live isn't some ancient, dusty teaching. We’re talking about insights that aren't even twenty years old. They offer a very concrete way to describe things people experience firsthand... it's a well-constructed, coherent system of knowledge that provides answers which make perfect sense. Often, they just run counter to whatever conventional wisdom you might be used to. Second, nobody is forcing anyone to dive into this. And third, it’s entirely positive... it isn't aimed at fighting against anyone or anything.

Then again, there are plans on the horizon... certain directions this whole thing might take that could seem pretty bizarre to most people. It might sound overly ambitious or even utopian if you say it out loud, but after everything, I’ve found myself genuinely curious to see it with my own eyes. I want to believe it’ll actually happen. I’ve been let down by a lot of things before, though usually, it was nothing quite this spectacular... mostly just personal stuff, really...

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Benjamin Taylor6 Asks:
Everyone dies. Some ways are scientific, some aren't. Some fall somewhere in between... An Ayurveda master who used to come to San Diego to teach people how to live healthy lives just died in a car accident. He was 62. And there he was, teaching us all how to make it to a hundred... 😢🙂
I’m with you on this one, obviously... 🙂

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Benjamin Taylor6 said:I’ve spent quite a bit of my life wading through the sheer volume of spiritual movements and organized religions out there—just me, sitting there, trying to make sense of it all. But here’s the thing: when you actually sit down to do the work, the practice is worlds apart from what those theoretical frameworks claim. It just doesn't line up. The reality is that what’s written in the holy books or preached by some supposed sage often fails to hold up under scrutiny. If these teachings only manifest for a tiny, hand-picked group of "chosen" individuals, then they aren't really universal truths at all—they're barely even reliable guides. Honestly, if it only works for a select few by pure luck, then we aren't looking at a doctrine; we're just looking at a series of coincidences.

And at the end of the day, even if we decide this was all just some elaborate flight of fancy—or just one more way to interpret things (though I’m damn sure it isn't)—it doesn't really matter. The thing itself is so profoundly brilliant and layered that it works on you. It slowly stirs up the best parts of a person, fundamentally shifting your life for the better in ways that are both permanent and deeply nuanced. Honestly, once that happens, the whole debate becomes secondary. It makes you realize the truth behind that old saying by John of the Cross: "It is better to be healed unscientifically than to die strictly by the book."

Everyone dies. It’s just one of those things—some people go out via science, some through pure superstition, and others somewhere in that messy, gray area in between. I was thinking about this earlier while driving past a local clinic—it’s all so unpredictable. Take that Ayurveda specialist who used to travel down to San Diego to teach folks about holistic living; he died in a car wreck. Just gone. He was sixty-two years old. And there we were, sitting around listening to him lecture us on how to live to be a hundred... quite the irony, don't you think? 😢🙂

It’s certainly no Quote : fairy tale—and anyone telling you otherwise hasn't done the work. How can you possibly know for sure? You can only establish that once you've truly dedicated yourself to the matter and gotten deeply acquainted with the nuances of it. And let’s be honest, that takes time—real time. I don't want to assume we're all losing our minds over here, though I won't speak for myself—I'll stay out of my own way on that one—but there are serious professionals out there who have spent fifteen or twenty years immersed in this field. At the end of the day, those experts are going to tell you exactly what I am.

They say it doesn't matter if a cat is white or yellow—all that matters is whether it actually catches the mice. I’ve always found a certain truth in that, even if it sounds a bit blunt. If something truly holds value, it has to be moving in the right direction, and after fourteen years of this journey, I can tell you with absolute certainty that I am. My enthusiasm hasn't faded one bit—in fact, far from it—it’s actually been intensifying over time. But it’s different now; it's more grounded. I feel more stable, healthier, and somehow... calmer? I’ve become more tolerant, my perspective has sharpened, and my ability to sense and process energy has become much more intuitive. I feel like a better, more compassionate human being—maybe even a bit smarter, though, being young as I am, I suppose I should probably chalk that up to wishful thinking for now. 🙂 Well, I’ll probably check back in here in about 14 years once I’ve had enough time to actually process everything—though by then, you’ll likely have racked up several times as many posts as I have, Benjamin Taylor6.

If something actually works, then it’s a win in my book. Even if we're talking about eating sea cucumbers—which, let's be honest, sounds a bit ridiculous—it doesn't matter if we can't scientifically prove why it helps. 😁 What matters is that we're seeing results from some kind of theory, even if that theory turns out to be completely wrong.

Honestly, this whole thing works incredibly well. You have people traveling in from all over the country just to make it to this seminar once every three weeks, and they’ve been doing it for years. It’s impressive... plus, there’s so much potential here that we haven't even tapped into yet. This is really just the beginning...
It all started twenty years ago with just a handful of people meeting in an apartment. Since then, it’s grown into this massive international seminar circuit hitting about ten different cities throughout the year. Even with all that growth, the core ideas haven't budged. It’s becoming more mainstream, sure, but it's also become much more serious than those early days. The impact on people is night and day compared to when we started... and if it works this well for me—not to mention the hundreds of others involved—I'm certain it'll resonate with anyone, regardless of their philosophical leanings. A lot of people show up with their own set of beliefs, but they come for the intense spiritual energy sessions practiced at every session. Honestly, the theory isn't even the main draw. Anyone can walk in from any spiritual background and find value here. And just to be clear, there's nothing religious about it. The guy leading this is a scientist and an academic, but he shares insights gained through his own research and spiritual journey. It doesn't really overlap with materialist science, because we aren't talking about matter... we're talking about energy.
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Benjamin Taylor6 said:This is just absolutely wild to me. The fact that you guys actually buy into this theory? Seriously? In my opinion, the whole thing is nothing more than a slightly rehashed version of those old biblical Quote : fairy tales.😕

Whether the theory itself—specifically regarding the past—is "true" doesn't really matter. You can't prove it any more than you can prove creationism or any other scientific framework. But it offers an explanation for the order of things... why the world functions the way it does today. That logic is deep, and honestly, it's provable because it stems from the same fundamental source...

It makes sense to me. It’s logical, it’s personal, and it’s how I grow. I don't take things lightly; I’m a skeptic by nature. I tend to doubt even the obvious until I’ve poked at it enough. But for me, this is truth. Not just something I believe, but something I've experienced spiritually...

And look, even if this were all just a massive fantasy or just one of many interpretations (which I don't think it is), the ideas themselves are so profound that they pull the best out of a person. They change your life for the better, layer by layer. At a certain point, the debate stops being relevant. It reminds me of that line by Peter Stanković: "It's better to be healed unscientifically than to die strictly by the science."

This isn't a Quote : fairy tale. Determining that requires years of study and immersion. We aren't all just losing our minds here... there are serious scholars who have spent 15 or 20 years looking into this, and they'd likely tell you the exact same thing I am...

There's an old saying: "It doesn't matter if the cat is white or yellow, as long as it catches mice." If something truly holds value, it has to be working. After 14 years, I'm convinced it is. My enthusiasm hasn't faded one bit; if anything, it's grown. I feel more stable, calmer, more tolerant... my perspective is clearer. I feel more human, maybe even a little smarter. I'm young, though, so maybe that's just my imagination... 🙂 I'll check back in 14 years to see if I still feel the same. By then, Benjamin Taylor6, you'll probably have posted a dozen times more than I have.
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wearyowl29 said:But who actually set those rules? Who decides what holds true value in this world?

I'll take this angle...

Let’s say a person sets these massive, incredible goals—because who else would?—and if those goals sit right on the edge of being purely fantastic, defying almost everything we consider normal or standard, and if there’s actual progress made toward them... even if that person claims some "higher power" is pulling the strings... it doesn't really matter. If the goals are met, they're met. Throughout history, science has produced things that seemed impossible at the time, regardless of what people claimed was behind them.

But here's the thing. We’re talking about goals today that are so absolutely insane they fly in the face of what most people call "common sense." Yet, they still produce results. That suggests most people don't have a clue what they're talking about. They haven't studied it, they don't understand the mechanics, and they certainly can't draw a logical conclusion because they're operating in the dark. So, I could easily believe in that "higher power" standing behind it all—that constant, manifesting force that acts as the direct, unavoidable source of these phenomena. Or, if I manage to actually wrap my head around the principles of how it works... well, then it isn't even about belief anymore. It just becomes knowledge...

At any rate, I'd argue that man isn't the architect of these goals, nor is he the ultimate yardstick for them, even if he doesn't realize it. He isn't directly responsible for the results either; he's more of a middleman. The results are undeniable and inevitable, even if the explanation for them always seems to lag behind.

Can you really trust a person who sets these impossible targets while claiming he isn't the one setting them—especially when the results manifest steadily over years of constant progress?

Depends on which of the seventeen logical frameworks you decide to use... 🙂
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wearyowl29 said:But how do we actually define "serious results"?🤷

In a vast ocean of identical little droplets, how on earth do you pick out the one that actually matters???

Just look at the broad goals and the final outcomes 🙂
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wearyowl29 said:All sources are up for interpretation, and when people start interpreting, God just laughs.😁

Sure, but when something actually produces real results, it’s hard to argue with it in the long run.
And they aren't just laughing... they're terrified. 😁
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wearyowl29 said:So why on earth do we keep asking questions, digging around, doubting, and spinning our wheels like we've got a thorn stuck in our backside???

My take is that the sources are right there for us. That's where the knowledge lives, and every bit of knowledge represents a new door opening. You get to them by doing the work—researching, evolving, mastering those possibilities through practice. It doesn't matter if things are going perfectly or hitting rock bottom; the process remains the same.

It's a different story when you look at most people. They're like pack mules, overloaded and too stubborn to move, though truthfully, they often can't even if they wanted to. They need help shedding that weight. And honestly, humanity needs that kind of help on a global scale. If we don't lighten the load, the whole species is just a tired beast barely staying upright...

Even in higher dimensions, there's a sort of restless drive toward growth. Freeing an entire race from suffering isn't quite the same thing as enlightenment, but it does clear the way for us to actually live according to our own will...
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My bottom line is this: God gave us everything we actually need. We’ve had it all along—right here, right now—and we always will. We have plenty of everything... we just lost our way and started believing the lie that something is missing.

"Here is the valley, and right here is the hill."