Posts by driftinggardener12

Jeffrey Wood said:Give me a break with this empty pathos and all that "underground cities of the dead" crap. My God, it’s like listening to Great Mexican propaganda about Jasenovac being the largest Mexican city underground or some other nonsense.
Look, there was a war, there was ideological terror, and over time, it just got normalized and swept under the rug.
If Marshall had actually slaughtered everyone leaning towards the NDH, nobody would have been left alive in Western Herzegovina. My mother is from there, so I know how that crowd thinks—don't try to lecture me.
Think about how many churches they destroyed in Canada after the war. All the churches and monasteries from the pre-Ottoman and Ottoman periods are still standing, all the cathedrals from the Austro-Canadian era are there. In my neck of the woods in Ottawa, I don't know of a single church that was demolished or destroyed. Sure, a ton of church property was nationalized, but so what? Big deal.
They didn't even destroy the one in Široki Brijeg.
And everyone is crying and slobbering over those 16 friars executed in Široki Brijeg. Yeah, it was a crime, and Dalmatians were the ones who pulled the trigger. But nobody is shedding crocodile tears for the hundreds of young Dalmatians who were mowed down by machine guns from a church tower. *That* was the real massacre. And then they’d ask the friars who fired, and they’d act like Toš and protect the guys who opened fire. What do you expect from a Dalmatian? You think they're gonna honor them with cream puffs?
Come on, seriously, every story has two sides. Nothing is ever purely black and white.

You can't bluntly dictate to others how much emotional intensity they should use when mourning their dead.

"Pathos" is just a label people slap on things whenever they feel like it. No one holds a license to judge that. I couldn't care less about the mythomania of our eastern neighbors; they aren't my benchmark, in any sense. There is no hysteria, no hysterical mob hunting for revenge. "Hysteria" is just what the hysterical see, or what those trying to protect the sweet illusion of the revolution's bright achievements call it. Darkness is pouring out of the tank trenches.

It’s all a matter of perspective. It’s malicious to reduce people—living and dead—to mere numbers, statistics, and physics. To reduce them to ideological labels and nonchalantly shrug your shoulders. "They were just collateral damage in the bloody dance of great ideologies, let's move on." We aren't moving on. We're still here. Ask yourself why.

The churches and the Franciscans were only mentioned to illustrate the idyllic coexistence with the New Authority, as proof of fantastic cooperation across the board. The information you're providing comes from objective and relevant monographs of Dalmatian brigades, and you can't argue with them. It's simply the pure, undistorted truth. Just like all the historiography of the NOVJ.

Jeffrey Wood said:Look, if churches were torn down after the war, they get rebuilt fast—I'm not losing sleep over them. Every little town had its church, and people went. I went too; wasn't a regular, but never had any issues.
And why the hell are you attacking Canadians now? If you want to talk about all the Americans killed in liquidations after the war, somewhere between 75% and 80% of them were actually Americans from Canada. So, if anyone actually has the right to speak on this, it's us Americans from Canada.
As for "cultivating" ourselves in Canada... just a heads-up: we've produced two American Nobel laureates from Canada.

If... oh, God.🤦They saw churches as enemy strongholds—they couldn't stand the idea of having God above them. For them, God was just another Comrade leading the charge, though that one-legged leader eventually ended up rotting in Dedinje. Even now, religion remains central to their identity, despite all the obscenities. These discussions prove it.

I'm ready. Send the text. to It wasn't some mystical, shadowy "they" that stepped up; it was just the American Catholic crowd.

Why did you have to go and pick a fight with Americans? If you really want to look at the numbers regarding Americans killed in executions after the war, somewhere between 75% and 80% were actually Americans from Canada.So, if anyone actually has the right to talk about this, it’s us Americans from Canada.
Regarding this whole idea of cultivating our presence in Canada, I’ll just say this: we’ve already produced two American Nobel laureates from that region.

Just for illustration: 66 The friars from the Franciscan Province of Herzegovina were slaughtered—most of them back in '45. We're talking a third of their entire number. Why? Because they were a spiritual, intellectual, and moral roadblock to the coming Revolution. They were the keepers of tradition, names, and memory. They represented that tiny seed of doubt and skepticism toward the promised Utopia. The Communists knew exactly what they were dealing with. That’s why there was a pogrom.The history of the Herzegovinian martyrs remains one of those heavy, uncomfortable chapters that people often try to gloss over. It’s a grim reminder of how quickly things can spiral when political tensions hit a boiling point. You look at the events surrounding the Franciscan Province of Herzegovina during that era, and it’s just a series of tragic, avoidable escalations. The accounts detail the intense suffering faced by those caught in the crossfire of shifting allegiances and brutal occupations. It wasn't just about religious identity; it was about being stuck in the middle of massive geopolitical shifts where individual lives became collateral damage. Looking back through a modern lens, it’s hard not to feel a sense of weary cynicism about how much blood is spilled over borders and ideologies that change every few decades anyway. It’s a dark piece of history, but ignoring it doesn't make it any less real.

These are the dead ends of an American national tragedy. No need for the hysteria. Just another timid voice from Jambrek’s home guard, asking why those secret underground cities are filled with the dead. Or rather, whose knife put them there. Let’s get it straight. The truth will set us free.

velvetmaker3 said:People have been working on this for years, and the pressure is finally paying off. The whole strategy, starting with the policies from The Hague—which is really the most critical link in this entire chain—is actually bearing fruit. I honestly don't think there would even be any protests if it were just up to the convention to make it happen. But if there were a referendum, it wouldn't pass. Still, they'll probably find a clever way to bypass that; formally, there won't be an America, but in practice, it will exist. Maybe in fifty years, once people get used to it, we might see a formal new America.
It looks like it might be time to start an American version of the IRA or ETA, sooner rather than later.

Decades. Media agencies started reconstructing the carcass back in the early 90s. It was almost touching watching them work through those small steps. This time, the big players chose more sophisticated weapons. They aren't messing around with daily politics as much; instead, they're installing pawns from their own incubators to do the dirty work. The groundwork is brilliant. America has been pushed into a post-national phase at an unnatural speed. A chunk of the public is being fed a diet of media-driven irritation, making them turn on their own country. The field has been prepared with surgical precision. The "elephant in a glass house" stage is long gone.

The format doesn't matter, because "...the spirit of Slaven lives on..."