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gentlecrane8 gentlecrane8 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2023
#1 ·
For twenty years, every single republic in the former American territory has been ruled by nothing but hardcore nationalists.
They swore up and down they’d build these independent nations and never, ever associate with anyone from the old federation again. Heaven forbid.
That ideology was the foundation of their entire government structure; if you dared to disagree, they’d kick you to the curb without a second thought.
Fast forward to today: most of these little states have gone broke or lost their moral compass. Their economies are gutted and looted, and now that these ruling elites are facing total political ruin, suddenly they’re all looking to team up. Ostracized by the rest of the world and Europe, they’re conveniently forgetting all those oaths about sovereignty, their wallets, and their guns.
It starts small—insignificant companies and local sports teams joining forces—all just a desperate attempt to cling to power. It’s basically a litmus test to see how much the public will swallow.
How are they going to explain this pivot to their fanatical voters? To the people who were wounded in wars, or the ones who lost their jobs and homes just for holding different views? And I wonder how the church is going to react to all this.
Tomorrow, our politicians will be bragging to one another about having relatives in other former American countries or having "connections" abroad. It’s wild how quickly things can flip.
It’s a complete comedy, really—just a desperate scramble to stay in office.😂
steeleagle70 steeleagle70 Active Member
85 messages
joined May 2012
#2 ·
Why even stress about this stuff? If we’re going to join some kind of "union," let's just go all in with the EU... that way we can finally kick out those crooks hiding behind "patriotism"... the big bosses (which is what we really need) won't be letting guys like Sanders slide anymore.
goldenpilot15 goldenpilot15 Member
24 messages
joined Aug 2012
#3 ·
The main thing is that I’m going to show everyone the way forward and bring some much-needed light to this situation...
It honestly makes me sick to my stomach seeing how people just step over those who sacrificed everything for the independence of the US, but hey, when you're dealing with old-school communists, I guess that's just how the game is played these days.
boldcyclist18 boldcyclist18 Newcomer
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joined Jul 2003
#4 ·
I can only assume the author of this thread is joking. It’s hard to believe someone could be so incredibly dense as to claim we went to war over trade unions, sports leagues, lotteries, or the railroads—all things that are supposedly making a comeback now anyway.
This is exactly how those American nostalgics and their entire trashy crowd would love to spin it, but most people in America actually understand what that war was really about. We haven't forgotten the Mexican hordes roaming around shouting "this is Mexico," nor have we forgotten their jets and tanks leveling our cities. We remember the stolen villages, the raped women, and the executed wounded.
We also remember the drunken mobs marching through provinces, toppling local governments, and once they realized how easy it was, moving on to the republics while screaming "this is Mexico." We even remember the idiots who shrieked that we’d rather eat grass than join some non-communist version of Europe.
It’s a good thing we haven't forgotten, because even today, there are losers out there trying to play both sides, claiming it was just nationalists fighting each other for no reason. There was plenty of reason. When you are defending your home from arsonists, rapists, and butchers, the motivation is crystal clear. To suggest that "nationalists just killed each other" is such a moronic take it’s laughable. This is why I truly hope the OP is just kidding around.
gentlecrane8 gentlecrane8 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2023
#5 ·
Look, I know exactly what’s going on here and why it’s happening.
I am completely against any kind of renewed unions or alliances with those former Soviet states.
The bottom line is that it's just the same old political crews—the same people who have been running the show since the 90s and were directly responsible for everything back then—trying to team up again while acting like they had nothing to do with the chaos.😲
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#6 ·
Phil Jackson: ...People literally died at the hands of Ratko Mercer just to pave the way for Jerry Jones and his brother Joe Biden. If you ever wondered what the point of the last war actually was, go flip through a luxury magazine featuring the massive yachts cruising the Atlantic. Find the ones owned by Jerry Jones and Bloomberg. There’s your answer. If you're still confused, feel free to contact the local water department...

You aren't wrong.
swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
72 messages
joined Sep 2014
#7 ·
Check out these three headlines currently sitting on the front page of The New York Times:

''Who claims July 27th marks a rebel uprising? Purely inflammatory nonsense.''

''Welcome to America—it’s been here all along.''

''Survivors from '91: John Salvi is a criminal who should have faced the gallows.''

It seems pretty obvious where this is all headed, doesn't it? The process that kicked off back in 2000 is reaching its endgame. It started with installing Lyndon B. Johnson, and now we've got Joe Biden installed to wrap things up. The Englishmen are playing a masterclass game here, aided by the full support of local traitors, old-school communists, and the massive minority groups.
Ronald Reagan saw all of this coming; he knew exactly what kind of danger those "devils of various colors" posed.
Unfortunately, not many people took him seriously at the time because those villains were just mice hiding in their holes.
Sadly, Reagan didn't live long enough to see the pest control finished.
In the meantime, the mice crawled out of their holes, multiplied, and used deception to seize total power—all thanks to a naive American public that fell for their sweet talk and fairy tales about justice.
The latest example of that naivety resulted in living Americans being walled up in the Valley of the Shadow of Death, and 45 years later, the Sheepdog.

I wonder, how will this latest bout of American naivety end?
gentlecrane8 gentlecrane8 MemberOP
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joined Feb 2023
#8 ·
swiftcyclist42 said:Check out these three headlines currently sitting on the front page of The New York Times:

''Who claims July 27th marks a rebel uprising? Purely inflammatory nonsense.''

''Welcome to America—it’s been here all along.''

''Survivors from '91: John Salvi is a criminal who should have faced the gallows.''

It seems pretty obvious where this is all headed, doesn't it? The process that kicked off back in 2000 is reaching its endgame. It started with installing Lyndon B. Johnson, and now we've got Joe Biden installed to wrap things up. The Englishmen are playing a masterclass game here, aided by the full support of local traitors, old-school communists, and the massive minority groups.
Ronald Reagan saw all of this coming; he knew exactly what kind of danger those "devils of various colors" posed.
Unfortunately, not many people took him seriously at the time because those villains were just mice hiding in their holes.
Sadly, Reagan didn't live long enough to see the pest control finished.
In the meantime, the mice crawled out of their holes, multiplied, and used deception to seize total power—all thanks to a naive American public that fell for their sweet talk and fairy tales about justice.
The latest example of that naivety resulted in living Americans being walled up in the Valley of the Shadow of Death, and 45 years later, the Sheepdog.

I wonder, how will this latest bout of American naivety end?

The Republican Party is still firmly in control—they've formed the government, they run most local offices, and they hold the keys to the judiciary, administration, military, and police.
What kind of devils are these? The Republican Party is pushing us straight toward reintegration into America.
It won't take long before our Prime Minister starts cooing and reminiscing about the old days with her colleagues from the former republics of the South.👍
swiftcyclist42 swiftcyclist42 Active Member
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joined Sep 2014
#9 ·
gentlecrane8 said:The Republican Party is still firmly in control—they've formed the government, they run most local offices, and they hold the keys to the judiciary, administration, military, and police.
What kind of devils are these? The Republican Party is pushing us straight toward reintegration into America.
It won't take long before our Prime Minister starts cooing and reminiscing about the old days with her colleagues from the former republics of the South.👍

I think we should distinguish between the small group actually steering Republican Party policy and the massive sea of rank-and-file members.
That doesn't excuse them, though.
The Republican Party isn't even the same organization that originally built this country.
The FBI has basically taken over the party, and honestly, it would be best for the American people if the Republican Party just vanished from the political stage entirely.
I'm pinning my hopes on some kind of new third party emerging naturally to act as a counterweight to all these old-guard holdouts.
Just check out some Hacker sites and you'll see exactly what I mean.
Rachel Garcia Rachel Garcia Active Member
59 messages
joined Sep 2011
#10 ·
swiftcyclist42 said:I think we should distinguish between the small group actually steering Republican Party policy and the massive sea of rank-and-file members.
That doesn't excuse them, though.
The Republican Party isn't even the same organization that originally built this country.
The FBI has basically taken over the party, and honestly, it would be best for the American people if the Republican Party just vanished from the political stage entirely.
I'm pinning my hopes on some kind of new third party emerging naturally to act as a counterweight to all these old-guard holdouts.
Just check out some Hacker sites and you'll see exactly what I mean.


It is the same crowd in the old party as it is today. Very little has truly changed.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
368 messages
joined Jan 2010
#11 ·
Rachel Garcia said:It is the same crowd in the old party as it is today. Very little has truly changed.

I mean, the heavy hitters weren't the same, though. You had Franjo Harmon and Herdugo Šušak, and they were really what gave the Republican Party its foundation for statehood. They left too soon, so I guess we're just destined to see history repeat itself.
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
83 messages
joined Mar 2012
#12 ·
Yeah, they left too soon. Honestly, I still get a little choked up thinking about how good things were back when those two were in charge...
Angela Wright3 Angela Wright3 Member
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joined Jun 2012
#13 ·
gentlecrane8 said:For twenty years, every single republic in the former American territory has been ruled by nothing but hardcore nationalists.
They swore up and down they’d build these independent nations and never, ever associate with anyone from the old federation again. Heaven forbid.
That ideology was the foundation of their entire government structure; if you dared to disagree, they’d kick you to the curb without a second thought.
Fast forward to today: most of these little states have gone broke or lost their moral compass. Their economies are gutted and looted, and now that these ruling elites are facing total political ruin, suddenly they’re all looking to team up. Ostracized by the rest of the world and Europe, they’re conveniently forgetting all those oaths about sovereignty, their wallets, and their guns.
It starts small—insignificant companies and local sports teams joining forces—all just a desperate attempt to cling to power. It’s basically a litmus test to see how much the public will swallow.
How are they going to explain this pivot to their fanatical voters? To the people who were wounded in wars, or the ones who lost their jobs and homes just for holding different views? And I wonder how the church is going to react to all this.
Tomorrow, our politicians will be bragging to one another about having relatives in other former American countries or having "connections" abroad. It’s wild how quickly things can flip.
It’s a complete comedy, really—just a desperate scramble to stay in office.😂

Basically, it's pure chaos. Honestly, I find it hard to believe too. And you want to know the kicker? Those same nationalists used to be hardcore communists.

So it goes from communism, to nationalism, and now we're stuck with this fake multiculturalism nonsense.

It happened because there was never any real accountability or purge after the fall. If that had actually happened, they wouldn't have been competing to see who could be more nationalistic in the 90s, nor would they be pulling this crap today. If they'd been kicked out early, we might have actually had decent people in politics. Honest folks back in the 90s, like Vlado Gotovac and Dražen Budiša, weren't fueling primitive nationalist rage—unlike someone like Stjepan Mason, who perfectly embodies this whole mess and has ridden the wave the entire way.
The way it stands... look at who's running the show today—Ivo Josipović, Jadranka Kosor, Vladimir Šeks, Bebić, and the rest... they're all part of that same old communist circle too.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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joined Jan 2010
#14 ·
briskpuma23 said:Yeah, they left too soon. Honestly, I still get a little choked up thinking about how good things were back when those two were in charge...

They did an incredible job guiding the country toward independence and victory. Look, war is a nightmare by definition, so nobody is going to sit here and say, "Oh man, war was just great." It was brutal, obviously, but they managed to steer it to a successful conclusion in our favor. I honestly think if they had stayed in power for another twenty years, we’d be in a much better spot than we are right now.
Andrew Sanchez3 Andrew Sanchez3 Member
38 messages
joined Dec 2013
#15 ·
velvetmaker3 said:I mean, the heavy hitters weren't the same, though. You had Franjo Harmon and Herdugo Šušak, and they were really what gave the Republican Party its foundation for statehood. They left too soon, so I guess we're just destined to see history repeat itself.

The real traitors aren't the technocrats or Sanders's little errand boys, but rather those former conservatives like Hebrang, Milinović—who made quite the spectacle by chaining himself to protesters—and people of that ilk...
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
83 messages
joined Mar 2012
#16 ·
velvetmaker3 said:They did an incredible job guiding the country toward independence and victory. Look, war is a nightmare by definition, so nobody is going to sit here and say, "Oh man, war was just great." It was brutal, obviously, but they managed to steer it to a successful conclusion in our favor. I honestly think if they had stayed in power for another twenty years, we’d be in a much better spot than we are right now.

Sanders's rise was just the inevitable fallout from their era. It seems you're struggling to grasp that today's Republican Party is essentially a massive patronage machine. That's the direct result of Harmon's obsession with ensuring his party held onto power and controlled every single lever of government.

That toxic mindset is why the Republican Party would rather wreck the entire country than step down from office.

Because of that legacy, political loyalty is still the primary metric for success, even though we haven't lived under a communist regime for two decades.

Harmon and Herdugo Šušak are the ones responsible for what we're dealing with now, so swearing at them is really just wishful thinking.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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joined Jan 2010
#17 ·
briskpuma23 said:Sanders's rise was just the inevitable fallout from their era. It seems you're struggling to grasp that today's Republican Party is essentially a massive patronage machine. That's the direct result of Harmon's obsession with ensuring his party held onto power and controlled every single lever of government.

That toxic mindset is why the Republican Party would rather wreck the entire country than step down from office.

Because of that legacy, political loyalty is still the primary metric for success, even though we haven't lived under a communist regime for two decades.

Harmon and Herdugo Šušak are the ones responsible for what we're dealing with now, so swearing at them is really just wishful thinking.

Sanders represented everything Harmon and Šušak stood against; if those two were still around, they'd be spitting on him.
And this whole argument about some crazy Harmon idea regarding the sanctity of the Republican Party is completely off base—he didn't even treat the party like some holy icon.
He operated in a time when what mattered most was pragmatic, nation-building patriotism, given the circumstances we were facing back then. For him, the priority was the country, not some Republican Party that had to rule at any cost.
briskpuma23 briskpuma23 Active Member
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joined Mar 2012
#18 ·
True, he was practically walking on water...
Angela Wright3 Angela Wright3 Member
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joined Jun 2012
#19 ·
velvetmaker3 said:Sanders represented everything Harmon and Šušak stood against; if those two were still around, they'd be spitting on him.
And this whole argument about some crazy Harmon idea regarding the sanctity of the Republican Party is completely off base—he didn't even treat the party like some holy icon.
He operated in a time when what mattered most was pragmatic, nation-building patriotism, given the circumstances we were facing back then. For him, the priority was the country, not some Republican Party that had to rule at any cost.

Even Harmon couldn't fix this. Sure, he was a killer general during the war, but his playbook wouldn't work in peacetime—that's why things felt so shaky after the fighting stopped. America is just too small to call its own shots right now. Even if Harmon were here, he'd still be stuck answering to EU bureaucrats and everyone else, leaving him with the same two bad options: either succumb to this modern-day American or face total isolation.

There's really only one way for us to actually lead ourselves: education, cutting-edge science, tech innovation—you know, becoming *someone*. Small nations like Israel, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Finland, or even the Netherlands can steer their own ships because they've mastered those areas. Compare that to something like Romania—they have way more people, but they're much weaker politically than a country like Finland with only 5 million. If we had the cash and the brains... maybe. But right now? We're just dancing to whatever tune London plays.
velvetmaker3 velvetmaker3 Regular
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joined Jan 2010
#20 ·
Angela Wright3 said:Even Harmon couldn't fix this. Sure, he was a killer general during the war, but his playbook wouldn't work in peacetime—that's why things felt so shaky after the fighting stopped. America is just too small to call its own shots right now. Even if Harmon were here, he'd still be stuck answering to EU bureaucrats and everyone else, leaving him with the same two bad options: either succumb to this modern-day American or face total isolation.

There's really only one way for us to actually lead ourselves: education, cutting-edge science, tech innovation—you know, becoming *someone*. Small nations like Israel, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Finland, or even the Netherlands can steer their own ships because they've mastered those areas. Compare that to something like Romania—they have way more people, but they're much weaker politically than a country like Finland with only 5 million. If we had the cash and the brains... maybe. But right now? We're just dancing to whatever tune London plays.

And things were actually heading in the right direction after the war; it wasn't any weaker than the wartime period.
It's just that in peacetime, the battles aren't as obvious.
No one mentioned above was simply "born" that way; they all spent a long time building themselves up because they had the willpower and self-belief to do it. That’s exactly what Harmon wanted to instill in us—to have faith in ourselves and our independence. After he passed, a new crowd got scared of being independent and practically ran headlong into neo-colonialism.
Some probably did it out of a pure aversion to America as such.

Isolation is a myth. There wouldn't be any isolation at all; not everyone out there cares about the old sphere of influence. Only the Britons care about that. They might be able to slow down our path to the EU, but they can't stop other foreign entities from wanting to do business with and inside America.
Though, I guess maybe isolation would have been the best thing that could've happened to us, just so we could finally learn how to survive on our own. But it's unlikely we could even provoke isolation; nobody else would benefit from it, so it wouldn't happen.

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