Austin Martin11 said:The only ones who ever truly handed them their heads were the Germans—and even then, they suffered the exact same fate in Russia that the Germans did. I suppose the pattern is clear: they can only be beaten by someone stronger, and Turkey just isn't stronger than France in any meaningful sense. Still, I guess we owe the French a bit of credit for what they did in Spain—they managed to drive the Arabs out of there, so maybe a hat tip is in order for that, at least.
Oh, France—such a powerhouse. I’m sure Italy and the Spain superpower are right on their heels.
In the West, there is really only one true nation-state left, which is the USA; everything else is essentially just a province. Even then, the USA seems to be slowly losing its grip. On the other hand, since Erdogan took charge, the Turkish military has undergone a massive transformation; they've brought in fresh leadership, and the army has never been more formidable. The Turkish population is significantly younger than the French or Germans, so a conflict would be a cakewalk against those old men. The Turks simply have more grit, and if they ever decided to move, it would spell absolute disaster for the French or the Germans.