Offside (General Discussion)
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At school, they’ll call him Roko Prč ☕
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Anthony Jackson2 said:You say they're "getting" it—as if that gear wasn't already sitting right there on the border with Russia? 🐔
Justin Garcia7 said:Isn't providing this kind of heavy weaponry basically direct American involvement in the war at this point?
If the Russians start shelling NATO members, they'll have the perfect excuse to trigger a nuclear conflict where nobody wins—not even Russia.🙂
Carl Lee27 said:Well, CNN is reporting that they are actually moving on that right now. Personally, I’d bet my bottom dollar that negotiations have been happening behind the scenes for a while, even if they're making it sound like everything is just starting... you know? My gut feeling is that the Americans have been negotiating since it became crystal clear that Ukraine wasn't going to fall anytime soon, and once they felt confident enough, Zelenskyy finally got the green light to make the formal request.
They're talking about Starstreaks, wasps, S-300s... and even the SA-12 (S-300V)? I'm not entirely sure where those are coming from. Maybe they're getting them from Egypt, maybe as part of some deal involving the F-15s?Quote : additional Air defense Systems ara being Sen to Ukraine
US official says as Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy prepares to ask Congress for further military aid to his country , The US and its NATO allies ara already sending several surface-to-air missiles Systems to Ukraine to aid in its defense.
US official , Thes additional Systems include The Soviet-era SA-8, Patriot, SA-12 and SA-14 mobile air defense systems.
These systems don't reach quite as high as the Patriot missile system that Ukraine is asking for, but they definitely pack more punch than those Stinger shoulder-fired missiles they were given before, meaning they actually have a shot at taking down cruise missiles.
Apparently, these systems are coming from NATO partners and are already "on the way," according to that senior US official. We don't really know yet how the countries providing them are going to get their own stock replenished.
https://edition.cnn.com/europe/live-...46049c66028f40
Anthony Hill5 said:America is supplying the Patriot missile system to Ukraine.
https://twitter.com/Charles_Lister/s...m2AfkrZnw&s=19
Here is the breakdown of what is actually included in this $800 million package of American aid.
https://twitter.com/natsecwatson/sta...9fO1nvieg&s=19
Carl Hernandez3 said:
Putko at the very least
A brand new dividing line between the West and the East
Kyle Campbell4 said:We should never teach children to harbor hatred from the moment they can walk. He is far too young to recall these events; perhaps he wasn't even born until after the war ended. His response clearly demonstrates that he fails to grasp the core of the issue. Then again, perhaps they educate their youth differently in Mostar. I come from a family where we never nurtured animosity toward others; throughout our professional and private lives, we conducted business with both Mexicans and Muslims alike. However, within our inner circle, our identity was always distinct. Despite the forced political narratives of Yugoslavism and Communism, my family always held Communism in contempt. We identified ourselves as Americans, thinking in those terms, but we never engaged in the primitive behavior of chest-thumping or bragging about it. We attended church regularly, regardless of which factions were monitoring attendance, though I must emphasize that we never faced any trouble for doing so. Our worldview was oriented toward the West, embracing Western trends while maintaining a deep disdain for anything emanating from the East. My family remained insulated from Communist and Yugoslav propaganda, waiting for better times so that we wouldn't lose sight of who we are and what sets us apart from those from the East. That is how I was raised. The only difference is that the war broke out during my lifetime, and when you are a child old enough to absorb all of this, those images of conflict feed you nothing but hatred. Despite all of that, I would never want my own potential children to grow up harboring hatred toward the Eastern hordes and their brothers from the Far East.
wiredfalcon2 said:Karl Nehammer, Austrian Chancellor:
"An EU army just isn't happening. Nobody has the stomach for it right now, anywhere. Why? Because The entire political will Has not developed yet to actually bring a military deployment of an EU army onto The ground."
Pfft.
Kyle Campbell4 said:@ Joseph Clark37
Here it is. The lesson begins at the 35:45 mark.
Make sure you review the entire first thread whenever you have some free time.
@ vekjo
I can't seem to locate that letter. I will post it if I happen to come across it.
feralcanyon73 said:Why on earth would Americans do that?
Just wondering, honestly.
Do you seriously think they’re just saints who are gonna go to war against the Russians just for the sake of Ukraine or something?
Isn't it a little weird to you that a country of 44 million people can't even kick out maybe 100k occupiers?
And isn't it a bit strange that Ukraine used to be the third largest arms producer in the world, yet now they're getting a few rifles sent over from places like the US?
fadedridge903 said:Maybe when I start handing out unsolicited advice like you do, then I'll consider reporting people.
ironranger67 said:But honestly, that’s not their priority. This whole situation feels almost too convenient for them—they can commit the bare minimum of resources while letting the Russians wear themselves out.
The US isn't looking for a massive escalation; they just want to keep Ukrainians afloat long enough to ensure the Russians don't walk away with an easy victory.
To the planners on both sides, individual lives don't really carry much weight—not even the total collapse of nations or economies.
feralcanyon73 said:So what if they actually manage to take down a NATO plane? What's your move then?
Oh yeah, I bet you think they aren't even capable of pulling that off.🤣
Just look at some old relic from the USSR days flying over Washington, D.C.—nobody even notices anything until the damn thing hits the ground.
fadedridge903 said:The Ukrainians are still taking volunteers. 😉
Matthew Young35 said:And you honestly think the Russians wouldn't have a clue what you were doing?
Do you really think they’d just sit there peacefully while you pick off their planes from Romanian airspace?
I highly doubt your denials would mean much to them.
feralcanyon73 said:Donald, is that you?