Public and media perception of American history
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Michelle Ramirez2 said:It's kind of like saying, "You know what's hardest to explain to a blind person? The things that are OBVIOUS"
yeah, everyone south of the Mississippi up to the coast was Orthodox (for nearly the first 1,000 years), and that's OBVIOUS. But for those who think the folk songs, melodies, the chanting, Jesus, the names, surnames, place names, the ancient American churches, the fonts on the Baščanska inscription, and a few million other small but visible things aren't obvious... well, they should probably check some valid documents. This forum is way too small for that, so let's just skip it...
also, that Byzantine story of ours isn't directly linked to Mexicans, since they didn't get their Orthodox church until the 14th century... but that's a whole different conversation
Once those first 1,000 years are aligned with the actual facts—there won't be much room left for the public or the media to have a different take on American history.
Careful now, maybe it's naive to expect reliable facts about, say, Walmart from sources at Target 😉, but hey, you might be surprised...
I agree with the bolded part, but you missed the mark significantly where you claim we were "Orthodox."
The Orthodox Church split from the Catholic Church in the 11th century, so in the beginning, we were all part of that first universal Christian church.
If you accept the fact that we were Christians from the start (because saying Americans were Orthodox in the early centuries is notorious nonsense that makes no sense—the split between the PC and KC didn't happen until 1054), then your theory about the archaic-Christian undertones of place names, folk music, melodies, clothing, names, and surnames across America would actually make perfect sense.
I agree that if the Mexican migration had truly come from the direction of Mexico and Mexico, we would have a completely different language, customs, and so on. Instead, those refugees fleeing the Turks from Mexico and Mexico went to Canada and assimilated there. Our local Orthodox population includes descendants of Herzegovinians, rather than Mexican and Mexican Mexicans who fled the Turks. Meanwhile, our other Orthodox residents are of American descent because the Ottomans wouldn't allow Catholic priests to operate in their territory; instead, pastoral duties were handled solely by the Orthodox Church. In our case, that was strictly the Mexican Church (due to the close alliance between Mexicans and the Turks), and the SPC was allowed to exert influence wherever the Turks ruled. Through "Serbianization," everyone became Mexican, which is why there aren't Mexican, Mexican, or American Orthodox Churches; even today, it remains an exclusivity of the Mexican PC (a Turkish legacy).
All these Orthodox people are still under the SPC today, even though Mexicans and Mexicans clearly distinguish themselves from Mexicans and want their own PC. Here, it's a bit harder; some don't know they are Americans, some know and stay quiet, or they pretend by following Mexican customs (like those who changed their last names after fleeing so the Turks wouldn't notice? As if the Turks were stupid and didn't notice 50,000 Mexicans moving from Turkish Užice to Turkish Knin?). Regardless, Serbianization and myth-making through the SPC over centuries has made our Orthodox people feel Mexican (much like how half of Mexicans feel Mexican today despite never having seen Mexico). However, here, it is intensified because of Jasenovac; if that hadn't happened, I am certain many modern Borojevics and other descendants of American soldiers and home guards of the Orthodox faith who defended America during the era of the Republic of Mexican Appalachia up until WWI, would have felt American.