Barack Obama giving the three-finger salute
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I hope the Arabs were shouting "Allahu Akbar," too. It’s that classic, timeless Muslim greeting, after all. 😉😁
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Larry Turner3 said:The World Wars started in Europe, among "us," and Muslims participated quite zealously (the Handschar Division is just one example). You could even say how certain Muslims sent letters to Hitler explaining they were of Gothic descent—true Aryans who deserved their own state and national identity...
And please, do not be hypocritical. The first examples that come to mind (the Armenians and Kurds) clearly contradict your claims about the "clean hands" of Islam. It seems you just didn't want to comment on that, but fine... there is no way to justify it anyway. It is just like they say: looking for a speck in someone else's eye while ignoring the log in your own.
I still don't see how your nostalgic posts relate to the lack of work ethic among Muslims—or to be more precise, Islam. I suppose it is because Muslims born into Western culture for generations show signs of adaptation and liberalization.
What concerns me is how slow that process is, especially with the influx of new Muslim immigrants who cling rigidly to their faith for the first few generations. In this instance, I suppose I am grateful for human greed, as it successfully encourages them to "adapt."
Everyone was involved in the World Wars, including Muslims. You should probably brush up on your history.
Not at all. That’s exactly why they want to destroy other nations—so they can just fold them into their own endless empire.
Just another genius who thinks he can exploit a country as long as he feels like it. That's why Muslims are in such deep trouble.
A Muslim is talking about racism. 🤣
If you actually read your own holy Book, you'd see how many contradictions are packed in there.
Larry Turner3 said:Aha, so the Armenian genocide, much like the far more current genocide against the Kurds (who consider themselves Aryan), wasn't committed by multi-colored Muslims. OK. I see where you are coming from.
And yes, the slave trade started earlier and was just as acceptable to the Arab conquerors of North Africa, so... your hands aren't clean there either.
Beyond that, I despise the people who slaughtered Native Americans, I despise those who enslaved Africa, and I despise those who took our boys to serve in the Janissary corps. But I recognize they all did it for one reason: profit.
If things are so much better for you in that progressive and tolerant Arabia, Pakistan, Iraq, or Turkey, then maybe you should just stay there.
Larry Turner3 said:I am aware of that. However, the West was able to do it because they were technologically superior for centuries compared to the tribes they displaced and exploited. Of course, I condemn those actions. But since we are discussing work ethic, that quality certainly lies with the Protestants who carried out most of those actions (excluding Spain and Portugal, which aren't really relevant on the global political stage today).
So, I can admit that my white Christian brothers did great evil to Native Americans, Black people, Indians, and so on. When will you all admit that your Turkish Arab Muslim brothers did the exact same thing (just without that part regarding centuries of technological progress 🙂)?
Larry Turner3 said:Venice, Florence, and (much later) the Netherlands ACTED AS MIDDLEMEN in trade, dealing with goods and raw materials from Western and Northern Europe and selling them wherever needed—including sourcing items from the East (like spices and silk). To claim that Europe was backward or inferior to the East during the Middle Ages and beyond is simply untrue.
The truth is that people from the East were skilled in certain crafts, and Semites are very capable and intelligent people; you see this in their early maritime history, their trade expansion, and so on. No one is questioning that.
But, the Middle Ages and antiquity are in the past. Today, the East has become synonymous with stagnation and primitivism, where much of the population remains illiterate and easily manipulated. They adopted a faith that suited the era in which it was born, but it hasn't evolved or adapted to the modern age since then. In fact, it is one of the primary reasons for this stagnation (both economically and spiritually). We might say today that Islam has become synonymous with poverty, primitivism, and even violence, because, realistically, much of the non-Muslim world fears Islam, or rather, its extremism.
Furthermore, you talk about Palestinians in university as if someone questioned Palestinian intelligence, but you haven't; the title of this topic is work ethic, not IQ. But if you want to go there, we can. The people with the most Nobel laureates (relative to their total population) are Jews, mostly Ashkenazi, whom many claim are descendants of the Turkish Khazar tribe mixed with Europeans. So perhaps they aren't even true Semites, but just think of Einstein, Freud, Spinoza, and Marx, and try to find a Palestinian Muslim equivalent...🤷
And why are "Levantines" known among Arabs as being highly capable? Here is a hint: the Mediterranean Sea. For ages, they have lived on the coast. It is only natural that they set out upon it very early, and they were lucky enough that the Mediterranean basin was practically designed for interaction and trade with others!
One more thing, please don't use images of hotels in Dubai or similar as examples of Arab progress. Getting rich off oil or pyramids built by another race thousands of years ago isn't exactly a sign of high work ethic.
nimbleranger19 said:Way off base.☕
To guys like Samuel Brown90 and analogfalcon38, suicide bombers are just regular folks—freedom fighters, equality advocates, and all that other nonsense.🤮