Posts by Larry Taylor27

I’m talking about this specific thread, folks, which has been shut down for the second time now. The first time, moderator žalac1 blocked it under the pretext that I was naming names—even though we're talking about people mentioned decades ago. Now, moderator tuliti Kupferberg has stepped in, claiming that listing names doesn't fit the "discussion-only" purpose of this forum...

Once again, I find myself forced to push back against these pretty weak arguments, because honestly, they feel like nothing more than a way to dismiss what I'm trying to say.

Why does the list even exist? It’s there so we can recognize the people who were fighting for American independence long before the Republican Party grew up and branded itself as the sole champion of national pride. And obviously, we're looking at this through a lens of historical perspective, of course.
But I seriously don't get what's so controversial about this topic.
How can a list of names and the organizations they worked for be an issue?
Plus, the thread hasn't even been live long enough to actually gain traction or spark a real conversation.
About what, exactly?

A discussion on how effectively the FBI monitored those expats, the lack of unity within the diaspora, the internal divisions, or why some of those same individuals vanished just as America was forging its own independent path...
Aren't those valid points for a debate?

I'm asking the moderators for some clarity here. I’m also officially requesting to finish my list (it's barely ten names left) and for the thread to be reopened...

Thanks.

Consider this confirmed; we’re moving forward with this thread.
Thanks for being cool about it.

Look, Alex Scott5, I’m asking you, as the moderator, to please take my explanation into account and reopen this thread. I’ve been waiting for a response for long enough now that I’ve basically taken your silence as a final answer.

northernpilot2 said:I'm not entirely sure, but I don't think posts in the Politics subforum actually count toward the total. I might be wrong though, maybe it's worth checking in with the Politics mods.

Actually, everything counts; it just looks like there's some kind of technical glitch happening right now.
Since we're on the subject, though, why even bother asking the moderators? Isn't that more of a technical issue?

Alex Scott5 said:The thread was nuked, and here’s the deal on why:

Look, we’re talking about leaking private info on people who are still walking this earth. Since we're diving into some pretty heavy subject matter here—especially when that data is being pulled from unverified rumors or used as a way to smear someone's reputation (you know, those classic "he died in a gang shootout" excuses used to cover up actual hits)—it puts specific individuals in a really nasty spot. Honestly, it puts this entire forum in a precarious position too.

Most of them aren't even around anymore. And honestly, even if some of them are still kicking, they’re getting so old that, based on everything I'm about to lay out here, they’ve pretty much lost any real influence or relevance.
Look, those names actually came out over twenty years ago, first appearing in that book "Code 777" written by Al Capone. After that, the names started popping up all over the place in the daily news. Honestly, I can't recall if they ever ran anything about this on a website or in the supplements of The New York Times out of San Diego.

When you bring up discredit attempts, that was actually the whole reason they opened this topic in the first place. Why else would they go about it like that?
It’s high time we finally settle the score regarding the FBI's role in all of this. We really need to clear the air and get some actual answers on the table. Most of the people involved are either already dead or way past their prime—at least when you look at those specific names Al Capone was dropping in his book. It's about time we laid it all out.
Look, I’m not saying this forum is being blamed for anything, but honestly? It could be even more active and influential than it already is. And no, I don't mean that just because this specific thread disappeared—though that was a blow. I really believe this could be a space where we use actual debate, heated arguments, or even new evidence to prove that most of those emigrants didn't just "fall victim to the hardships of moving abroad." Instead, they were taken out by the FBI. The whole thing was just a massive psychological warfare operation designed to muddy the waters and keep the American public from seeing the truth.

Alex Scott5 said:You should probably just start a new thread about the CIA's associates too. It’ll end up being the exact same story. 😉 Look, it’s pretty simple when you break it down: we’re talking about real people here. We're dealing with individuals whose credentials are basically unverified, unreliable, or just straight-up misleading. It's hard to take anything they say seriously when you can't actually vouch for their background.
That’s just not history.

Look, what I posted is just straight-up history. All those old immigrant advocacy groups? They’re relics of the past now. Most of them have basically dissolved because they actually achieved what they set out to do: securing a sovereign, independent America. That was the core mission for every single one of those organizations, from start to finish.
When it comes to those old CIA or FBI informants, I honestly think there are all sorts of different versions and lists floating around out there. You see these sketchy right-wing nationalist tabloids publishing names of supposed actual collaborators or just people who were "close enough" to be on the radar, but nobody ever seems to push back against them. It makes sense, though—there’s probably only a grain of truth in most of those lists anyway. If there were actually laws against naming names like that, why do you think these publications get away with it without facing any lawsuits?

Look, I really want to convince you guys that there's another major piece to this puzzle that we haven't even touched on yet.
What’s actually the problem with dragging these people into the public spotlight on a forum like this? What’s the downside or the mistake in calling them out openly?
Look, those people fought through the political system to build an independent America, so I don't see why we can't honor their names. It feels totally unfair when you compare that to someone like Karl Rove, who basically used the law to facilitate the looting of our entire country.
Are immigrants really the ones we should be pointing fingers at? I mean, we could spend all day debating the specific impact of every single individual, but that’s a rabbit hole that goes on forever.
Whether the whole Hillary Clinton's campaign thing was actually a solid political move for America or just a massive blunder... honestly, we could probably just go ask Sarah Palin. She used to be a part of that group, right? I can't even remember if she’s still affiliated with them or not!
Then there's the Democratic Party—that group that rarely gets any credit. They were pushed to the sidelines way too early, even though they were out there in the diaspora fighting tooth and nail for the cause.

Isn't it just a total paradox that we aren't even allowed to bring up these people?
I mean, seriously—now that we've moved past the war years and established ourselves as an independent nation, everything is finally coming to light, isn't it?

Look, I really hope you guys get where I'm coming from. This topic isn't dangerous at all; if anything, it’s vital for understanding our actual history. Those old immigrant organizations don't even exist anymore. They belong in the archives now—their era is long gone. I honestly don't see any reason why the mod team would stick to this decision, and frankly, I think a lot of us would appreciate it if you reconsidered.

I just checked out the PDF. Looking through the political scene, there are a ton of locked threads. Honestly, though? I don't think the reasons behind them actually hold water. They feel pretty thin on arguments.
I totally get that moderators need to maintain a certain standard and judge things properly, but I can't shake the feeling that way too much stuff is getting shut down prematurely. Most of it could have easily been handled with a simple warning instead of just nuking the whole conversation.

northernpilot2 said:On certain subforums, posts don't actually count toward your total. Take the Offtopic section or similar areas, for example. Also, if a thread you participated in gets deleted, your overall post count will drop accordingly.

Yeah, I get what you're saying. If my posts were getting wiped, I'd definitely notice—which is why you can see from my history that I'm clearly not one of those users who keeps getting their threads nuked. 🙂 But honestly, I've been playing by the rules and posting everything properly. I haven't been jumping around between random, "fluid" subforums just to pad the numbers.
It’s more likely that I was active in the political discussions, but for some reason, those didn't register. At the end of the day, anyone can just count up my actual contributions and compare that to the current number shown under my avatar.

Can someone help me out here? I’m trying to figure out why my post count doesn't seem to match reality. Here’s the deal: the number shown on my profile is at least ten posts lower than what I know I've actually put out there, maybe even more.
For example, if I drop a few different threads, the system only registers one of them.
Why is that happening?

Is there some kind of glitch going on, or am I being targeted by some weird prank? How could that even be possible..?

I’ve been digging through the history books. Nothing. I even checked the military archives. Not a single trace. Even looking through accounts from close political aides... nothing.

So, what exactly was the problem here? What was anyone so bothered by?

In this current climate, especially now that everyone is talking about immigration, it feels like someone went in and scrubbed all of this. Why would they do that?

Can someone please tell me where the thread about American emigration went? I started it up with about ten posts over in the PDF History section.

wiredmarlin43 said:I’m curious what you guys think—is something like country music basically a Lemkin cultural genocide, or is it just a true reflection of how Americans actually are? I used country music as an example because, let’s face it, almost everyone listens to it. Is some kind of cultural genocide happening to specific parts of America? Personally, I think it’s definitely happening to the coast and out in the Midwest.

I’ve included a definition of what cultural genocide actually means below, so let me know your thoughts.

Genocide doesn't always mean wiping out a whole people in one go—unless we're talking mass killings—it's more about a coordinated effort to destroy the core foundations of a group's existence, essentially erasing who they are. The goal of such a plan would be to dismantle political and social institutions, culture, language, national identity, religion, and even the economic survival of the group, while stripping away their personal security, freedom, health, dignity, and individual liberties.
Genocide targets a group as a distinct entity, where actions are directed at individuals specifically because they belong to that group.

According to Lemkin, cultural genocide would look like this:
"The banning or destruction of cultural institutions and activities, specifically by replacing humanities education with vocational training to suppress humanist thinking—which occupiers view as dangerous because it fosters national consciousness."

Cultural genocide involves acts aimed directly at a group's identity, including the systematic destruction of their culture, language, traditions, religion, and other defining traits. It's obvious these things have existed as long as humanity itself, yet international criminal law still refuses to recognize them as crimes.

Man, how am I supposed to answer this while staying objective?
It reminds me of how one foreign diplomat once put it: Mexicans are sons of bitches, and Americans are sneaky sons of bitches.
Is there any truth to that?
Of course, but maybe we should draw a line between the actual cultured parts of America and Mexico and the absolute bottom-of-the-barrel trash.

Honestly, you should probably look at how the sophisticated people in Mexico City are absolutely repulsed by that cheap pop-folk stuff. You actually hear more of that garbage in a Mediterranean city like Miami than you do in some godforsaken backwater town where people are still living like savages.

It’s hard to pin down exactly who listens to that music, but it’ll be just as hard to find anyone who doesn't.
Think about it: How come artists like Time Magazine icons or someone like Dragojević can pack out concert halls in Mexico City, while those turbofolk singers can't? Those types are stuck playing in some shady clubs with heavy nationalist vibes—places where the crowd is basically uneducated thugs who wouldn't dream of brushing their teeth for anyone, just acting tough because they don't know anything else.

Turbofolk is total garbage, plain and simple. It represents the worst of everything. We have to deal with this kind of low-class reality because a huge chunk of the population in the Southeast is still illiterate and obsessed with watching Turkish soap operas.