Offside Chat Archives (2014-2021)
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Morgan Williams said:I'm back. Finally. 🙂
I am. ☕
EDIT:
Look, I draw a line between personal beliefs and what happened here. It’s one thing to have an opinion, but it’s another entirely to celebrate a genocidal regime at a concert, toast to the slaughter of innocent people, or start a song with a salute from a totalitarian era. That specific slogan wasn't even the official greeting of the modern United States. European nations have already made their stance on this crystal clear.
Take someone like a political commentator criticizing certain views—there's a massive difference between holding a debate and the blatant extremism I just described.
I was actually referring more to the core convictions held by Walter Grant5, because I believe those fundamental beliefs are what shape a person's stances on broader issues like religion, patriotism, or even our views on veterans and national service. My point wasn't limited strictly to just the local political figures or specific leadership controversies. As for how he celebrates or the way he kicks off his concerts—well, I've never actually attended a Metallica show myself, so that whole aspect of his persona remains a bit of a mystery to me. ☕
brightpilot6 said:Well, look at how many people are absolutely captivated by certain political leaders and how those views drive them.
It isn't merely about mindless imitation of an opinion; rather, it’s more about the deliberate push toward elements that trigger a regression in the collective psyche. Think back to the heightened tensions we saw during our own historical conflicts.
What else would explain the sudden obsession with military uniforms, wartime rhetoric, or those intense, divisive clashes we experienced on the streets of D.C.?
I suspect we are looking at a small minority here—those individuals who have become somewhat obsessed with the Pope's specific stances. To be honest, I look at my own perspective and realize there isn't some papal figure who is going to dictate how I think, especially since even the current leadership hasn't exactly resonated with me. When I observe those folks over on Wall Street, I see people who seem genuinely broken, perhaps struggling with mental health issues or just deep-seated frustration. If you add the fact that maybe George thought he was a much bigger player in society than he actually is, you end up with the exact situation we’re seeing now. We have to acknowledge that we didn't experience combat; we didn't endure what they went through, and we simply cannot grasp what it means to live when a comrade is killed by shrapnel or when you lose a limb. For that reason, and because they were the ones defending our country, I can't hold their choice of uniform or their "both sides" rhetoric against them. In my view, these people aren't really so easily swayed that anyone can just force their opinions upon them.
James Anderson5 said:How does it not matter who was whose mistress? Haven't you noticed that yesterday's secretary just became the CEO of a massive municipal corporation in Chicago?? Or look at who was handling procurement for those big city agencies before the current leadership took over...
There's a difference between someone earning media attention through their credentials and someone being forced upon us as a media figure. Look at guys like Siniša Cmrk, who vanished from the news after one huge blunder, versus that guy from the news who became even more politically desirable and popular right after getting caught dealing drugs. Using criteria like that is just toxic for any society...
Is Raspudić ideologically unappealing to me? Well, that depends on what you think his ideology should be—should he represent a truly neutral center-right view, or the party line of the GOP? And which of those two rhetorics do you think he actually uses?
Yeah, the administration is largely like that, and it's because those were the standards set back during the Bush era, when half the cabinet barely spoke English and the Secretary of Homeland Security only had a high school diploma. The current crowd has continued that pattern, maybe slightly less extreme since they at least have a professional for Treasury, whereas under the old guard, things were a lot messier...
Regarding Kolaricka, my intention was simply to say that it hardly matters, as I have no way of knowing whether she was involved with anyone or not.
As for Bujanec, why on earth do you assume he has become more politically desirable? It’s much like my previous point; I think we all tend to assign far too much importance to certain individuals. Who exactly finds him politically attractive? Even if there were such a person, it would surely be a fleeting interest, because anyone who has sat through a single episode of Bujanec's show knows exactly what kind of intellectual capacity we are dealing with. Is there really anyone in this country whose views are shaped by him, or who considers him a politically acceptable figure? I suspect what we see on real life news or here on these forums is often just people clashing due to personal dislikes rather than actual political substance.
When it comes to Raspudić, he really ought to simply represent the ideology he believes in; if you enjoy his perspective, then read him, and if you don't, then don't. We could probably debate the merits of Raspudić for another three days and still never reach an agreement.
And regarding that final point about Sanders—yes, he was the one who established those standards, but we can't keep using him as a universal excuse for everything. It reminds me of how Biden reacts to every critique by just shouting "Republicans, Republicans, Republicans!" Yes, the GOP messed up, Sanders messed up, and now he's where he belongs—I was driving home earlier and heard on the radio that he's facing heart issues and likely some form of dementia. At some point, one has to take responsibility and move forward. They knew they weren't taking over Switzerland or Sweden, so why bother with things like Plan 21 or similar grand schemes?