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Consciousness in Spirituality ·
I’ve taken the liberty of tweaking this story a bit from the original version, though I’m trying to stay true to the core sentiment. If anyone out there happens to know the full details or has a written account of this, please, post it... It would be genuinely fascinating to read...

So, they caught a young Leo out while he was just wandering around looking for a meal and a mate. Naturally, they tossed him straight into the camp. Usually, they’d go after the younger ones—easier to "re-educate" them, you know? Easier to mold their habits, shove new ideas down their throats, and reshape how they see the world. But by the time they threw him into the wire, the guy already felt right at home. He had everything there: food, women, shelter, entertainment, various philosophies, religions... basically, everything a guy could ever need to survive. And if he put in a little extra effort, maybe even more. For those first few days, he just drifted through the camp, getting his bearings and sizing up the local customs and the people living there. He noticed everyone was organized into these tight-knit groups. That’s where he stumbled upon the religious sects and their endless sermons about Judgment Day, the Second Coming of the Leo (the Son of God), the absolute necessity of following strict moral codes, and all that stuff about loving your neighbor... After listening to their lectures, he spent his time watching them closely. It was fascinating... nobody actually practiced a single thing they preached. Yet, the very next day, their priest would be standing there, absolving them of every single sin they’d racked up...
He found it pretty interesting, I guess... but he decided to take a bit more of a stroll.
Just around the next corner, a bunch of self-righteous sheep and goats had gone and started their own little Bridge Club. He couldn't help but let out a laugh before moving along... A bit further down the road, though, he spotted a pack of hyenas busy collecting signatures to launch some new political parties—supposedly meant to look out for the entire camp and everything a free citizen actually needs...
He was already wound tight just thinking about those hyena types and their predatory politics. So, he kept moving. During that walk, he couldn't help but notice Leo sitting there all by himself near the perimeter fence of the camp... and just when he was getting ready to go over and strike up a conversation, he ran straight into some ladies of the night. When they spotted him, they started making offers left and right. They came in all sorts of shapes and sizes. Honestly, over the next few days, he ended up sampling every single pleasure they had to offer. Eventually, he finally managed to break free from that scene and caught sight of Leo again by the fence. Just as he was about to head over... you wouldn't believe it...
Don't bother approaching him; the guy is a total eccentric. He’s basically the black sheep of the whole camp... doesn't socialize with anyone, doesn't ask for anything, and certainly doesn't offer anything. Just leave him be. You aren't going to get a single useful thing out of him... says Giraffe.
"You're the biggest one out of all of us. Can you see anything past the fence?" Leo asked... he had already forgotten what freedom even felt like outside those bars.
Good grief... Of course there’s nothing out there. This fence is the end of the line. Everything worth seeing is right here within these bounds. Believe me, I know better than anyone if there's anything beyond this perimeter... I can see further than any of you combined...
Leo stared him down, sensing that unmistakable undertone of deception in his voice...
I somehow managed to slip out from under her feet while she was completely preoccupied, rambling on about how wonderful the camp was... I finally made my way over to where Leo was sitting by the fence.
I sit there right next to him, just watching. Watching for a long time... Giraffe was absolutely right about one thing: he is a total eccentric—that’s what keeps crossing my mind while I stare him down—he hasn't even realized I'm sitting here yet...
Maybe he should just lean in... instead of trying to drag that old Leo back into the fray...
So? What's the verdict?
I’ve only been stationed at this camp for a little while now, but I’ve been watching you. Out of everything going on around here, you spend every single waking hour—day and night—just sitting there by the fence, staring. Is there really nothing else in this entire camp that catches your interest? Why do you isolate yourself like this? You don't talk to anyone... you just stay detached. What is it, really, that keeps you glued to that fence from sunrise to sunset...
Leo smiles.
First off, the camp is certainly an interesting concept, and there’s plenty to get lost in. But that’s exactly the problem. Every little pleasure you fall in love with just chips away at your intellect and erodes your memory of what true freedom actually feels like. Honestly, I suspect you can’t even remember what life was like outside those gates anymore...
Well... I remember something, but it’s all just a bit hazy right now. I know there's something interesting here that I've missed, but I can't quite put my finger on what it is...
Secondly, I’m not detached; it’s just that what they say doesn't interest me. They have their little Bridge Clubs where they sit around debating "freedom" while trapped inside a cage. They organize political parties just to give the residents a sense of dignity and freedom of speech within that very same cage. They offer all sorts of pleasures and indulgences that you couldn't even dream of—believe me, I’ve tasted them all, just as I’ve noticed you have too—but there was always this bitter aftertaste left in my mouth... a hollow emptiness in my chest. They set up rehabilitation centers to fix addiction, yet on the other side of the street, they run the bars and the dens selling the booze and the drugs. They work tirelessly to tighten the shackles even further, only to swoop in and "solve" the problems they manufactured themselves. It's a cycle. They promise you liberation only after death, or heaven, provided you follow the rules, the morals, and the laws... those laws written by the Leos who declare themselves the sons of God. If you don't obey, they tell you you're headed for hell. But look around. Hell is exactly what we are living in right now. Can there be any greater hell than this? To know you were once free, yet you were foolish enough to let yourself be captured?... There can't be. They are idiots, trying to convince you that through mere words and mindless repetition, you will somehow attain freedom. But you know deep down that what you truly are cannot be captured by words or restricted by techniques. They make grand promises because they have such long necks, but they are blind. Completely blind. They can't see, because they don't even possess the capacity to understand what it is they should be looking at...
- Hmm... - Leo grunted. He stared at him, having already considered walking away several times, but there was something about this old Leo that held him—something that gave the impression he actually knew what he was talking about. It wasn’t an impression he’d encountered anywhere else before. - So, what are you doing hanging around the fence? If you know all this, why are you still waiting?
- What am I doing? Isn't it obvious? I'm studying the very essence of the fence. I know who I am, and I know what I am. But in order to break free from this prison, this cage I'm trapped in, I have to grasp the true nature of this barrier. Once I see it for what it really is, liberation becomes a mere matter of time. All you need to do is figure out what it is that actually keeps you in the cage. It isn't bars—because there aren't any. Instead, they've designed the cage so that you never even think about escaping, even while you spend your entire life searching for a way out. Every door just leads deeper and deeper into the heart of the cell.
- Then what would you advise me to do?
- Nothing. Just sit and watch. Maybe the cage doesn't even exist. Maybe you just imagined it and now you're spinning in circles in your own little movie. I said, MAYBE!!! Just sit there and observe. Grasp the essence of the fence, and then walk out.
Consciousness in Spirituality ·
Anthony Rivera17 said:So you think there’s an escape route out of here? There is no running away, my friend, because this planet is...
essentially the most secure prison in the entire universe... designed specifically for the worst specimens of life... for
those who haven't earned the right to be anywhere else, and that much should be obvious if you just look
around you through the eyes of a "normal" person... the only way to truly escape is to work on
yourself, to improve who you are, and perhaps then, just perhaps, shorten your sentence...

😂 😂 😂
Bravo. You managed to pack a punch in just a few sentences.
Don't bother trying to "improve" yourself; just try to actually understand the Self. That's enough to facilitate an escape. 😉
There's an old story about a Leo in a camp and a young Leo who arrived there...
I'll tell it later. Beautifully put...
The whole point is this: I am attempting to grasp the essence of the fence, so that I might finally climb over it.
Patandjali IV, 15 in Spirituality ·
That’s really where the beauty of the journey lies. I can recognize my own path in almost any road I take. My own path, casualtiger2... it shifts in some stretches and stays steady in others, but our roots? They feel remarkably similar. Of course, there are plenty of points where I find myself clashing with your perspective, yet even in those disagreements, I manage to pull something useful away to apply to my own life. It's the same with everyone else. There are certain paths out there where I see absolutely zero common ground. But that doesn't mean those paths are flawed... it just means they don't vibrate on the same frequency as I do.
It’s much like what Ryan Wilson2 was saying. I just let people speak their truth, even when I can't find a single point of connection. In fact, I've realized that trying to force a connection—or worse, creating a conflict just because we disagree—is a waste of energy. I simply let them say what they need to say, accept it for what it is, and move on.
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
Look, you know as well as I do that we share some pretty similar roots—roots that some people actually recognize—so we’re both on the same page here... WOMEN... they're the issue. 😉
What "dark spirituality" are you even talking about? I thought you already knew that stuff doesn't exist. Except, maybe, inside the heads of those self-proclaimed gurus. And "dark will"? Please... nothing more than sheer stubbornness and a particularly aggressive decision.

Out here, it’s just rain... non-stop rain, then more rain, then just more damn rain. 🙂
I don't have a garden myself, but I can certainly outdo yours... 😉.. I've got my visualizations. 😉

Anyway, I'm glad you're doing well... whatever "well" means to you... it's good to hear, and I'll keep that positive thought in my mind...

So, sending my regards from afar... and from nearby, too...
By the way, a colleague of mine climbed Everest these past few days. Man, what an experience. Honestly, we were more excited and hyped up about it than he was. Women, you know how it goes in those "free-spirited" tantric communities... you're all thrilled for a moment, but the excitement doesn't last very long.

Best,
Nirvaan

PS.
Let me know if there's anything new regarding the courses and such... over in Mexico, if you hear anything. There are people interested. I could pass the word along... and who knows... maybe I'll head over there myself to initiate someone. :P
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
casualtiger2 said:Now you guys have completely thrown me off.
I was just getting comfortable with the idea of not having to develop anything—basically accepting my fate—
when suddenly, apparently we need to be enlightening people and awakening their spirituality.
It’s like...
"good morning"
"good morning"
"I am your spirituality, now who are you?"...

Who exactly is doing the enlightening and waking up? Who is the target here?

PS
So, I guess there’s no point in trying to force willpower, since there isn't really a need for it
if the true motivation is already there?

Look, casualtiger2... you just didn't get it. You completely missed the point...
Do you need a Master to sit you down and give you a lecture on Tantra? Because it sounds like you're lost...

So... here we go.
"I am your spirituality... but who exactly are you?" I am your very soul. I’ve been waiting for you—waiting and waiting, through everything—and finally, at long last, you've arrived. Come on in, take a seat... care for some coffee? No? Well, you don't have to!
And you just talk it out, clear the air, maybe get a little intimate... and that’s really all there is to it...

True spirituality awakens you to the fact that most "spirituality" is nothing more than a facade... Now, which comes first? The realization or the illusion? Hmm... does it even matter...?
If it even matters... she’s completely oblivious to the one who actually is... 🙂 Or maybe it’s actually the other way around... I can't quite recall exactly now...

What exactly do you want from me...?
So... is it actually time to get the potatoes in the ground yet? Or are we all just waiting around for a sign from above...? 🙏 The corn? Hmm... honestly, what even is it at this point? That’s a question for whoever is running the show over at the Fed!

Motivation... that’s a whole different beast altogether...
Your motivation is simple: if you're out there putting in the work, planting crops with everything you've got—even when there isn't a woman by your side to cheer you on—then you've finally found a real reason to move... That's what true drive looks like.
Actually, I don't think it’s just about women. We aren't exactly rookies here, so let's be real—it's a primal sexual necessity for both you and me. And honestly? It isn't even "pure." Calling it that is too kind. It’s more like a desperate need for release... though even that isn't quite precise enough. If we really want to get down to it, it’s a craving to steal something away, a frantic attempt to run from our own selves. But... well... surely you didn't think this was the end of the story...!!! 😲
Alright... just getting started...
There’s this deep-seated need to prove oneself... an underlying fear of actually facing who you are and accepting that reality. Then there's the craving for attention. And then, things get a bit more insidious. You have outright energy vampirism—that raw, predatory exchange—but even more subtle than that is the way people merge their energies. It's a shifting of power, where one person drains the other to level the playing field, transferring strength from the dominant to the weak just to balance the scales. Whether it's masculine or feminine dynamics, it's happening beneath the surface... much more subtle than most realize... 👍
And maybe this is the last one, though certainly not the most important... you’re talking about a spiritual delusion, or rather... pure spiritual pretension. It's that supposed "oneness" at its absolute final stage...
Look, I'm not entirely sure where you stand on this one, but if you've got any additional thoughts to throw into the ring, I’d be more than interested in reading them... Be a dear!

Hey there... just checking in.
Off to some far-off land... far away from anyone I actually know... 🙂
Nirvaan...
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
😁
Not quite.
It all depends on whether you actually know how to frame a question. Whether you know who to direct it to. Or if you even understand the fundamental reason why you're asking in the first place... 🙂

Regards
Nirvaan (The greatest living Tantra master in the universe)

PS
A man starts repeating himself... and you know exactly who I'm talking about. 😉
At this point, it’s honestly just getting ridiculous.
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
And what on earth does any of this have to do with spirituality? What even is "spirituality" supposed to be? Is it some kind of consumer product you eat or drink?
And what’s the deal with willpower, compassion, or intelligence? Who is actually asking for any of that?

Why bother developing anything at all?
I just don't get it...?!?!?!?!
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
@Hannah Morris3

It’s actually quite simple.
Start small. Start with yourself. Admit your own "mistakes" and figure out the actual reasons behind them. Analyze them. But don't judge yourself. Once you've done the analysis, just observe... once everything is clear and dissected, simply face the conclusions you've reached.
Keep some kind of journal.
Identify your gravitational and levitational influences.
Gravitational—those people who weigh you down, pull you into a negative headspace, or trigger negative emotions even when you aren't looking for it.
Levitational—the ones who lift you up and give you strength...

You'll eventually realize you need to lean heavily on those levitational forces whenever a bad mood starts creeping in.

As for facing people, start there too, with the smaller things.
Speak up about minor things you usually keep to yourself. Pay attention to how it feels to actually say them out loud.
Do little things you've never done before. Stop stepping back for others or feeling guilty and ashamed because a friend or someone else is doing something.

So, yeah, start with the easy stuff... Don't jump straight into the heavy lifting.
Find two or three close friends and make a pact to be completely honest with one another.
Again, start with the small stuff...

That's basically it—just a few starting points for working on yourself.

Can't write much, I'm stuck at work... clients coming in every five minutes...

Best,
Nirvaan
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
Hannah Morris3 said:So, how exactly does one learn courage?

It’s not by running away from what you see inside yourself or the chaos surrounding you.
It comes through steady, unflinching observation.
Stop dodging the new, stop fearing the unknown...

But more importantly, it’s about realizing you have absolutely nothing to lose. You can only ever "find" yourself. Everything else you cling to—your status, your possessions, your identity—it's just a hollow illusion that you've mistaken for reality. Once you see through the lie and realize those things aren't actually *you*, you realize there's nothing left to lose... because none of it was worth losing in the first place.
That’s when courage arrives on its own. It seeks you out; you don't hunt it down.

Though, I suppose you could start practicing.
It all boils down to "training." 🙂 Or, if you prefer, learning. 🙂
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
Nancy Thompson3 said:No way!

Could you elaborate on that?
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
I appreciate you being so upfront with me. It’s honestly rare to run into someone this sincere.
Compromises? The last ones are always the most dangerous. And I’m not talking about bending over backward for other people... I mean those compromises made against your own Self. 🙂
Courage isn't something you're just born with—it's learned. And true leadership? That only comes through the deep work of getting to know your Self.

Best,
Nirvana
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
🙂
And maybe, just maybe, making compromises is actually a sign of weakness toward the Self.
Compromising with the world—with the people around you—isn't necessarily a bad thing. There’s a certain level of pure, human decency in finding middle ground. But compromising with the Self... that might be the very thing standing in the way of true self-discovery.
I don't know... I'm just wondering... 🙂

What’s your take? Do you feel like your own compromises are keeping you from truly knowing who you are?
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
If you are truly investigating—really questioning, exploring, getting to know yourself—then it’s perfectly natural that you won't be able to provide an answer that satisfies these questions for centuries to come.
But if you apply that same level of inquiry to your own being, you realize you can only give an answer *now*. It doesn't matter what you'll say tomorrow. Your answer, just like these questions, exists only in the present moment, specifically for you, right here, right now. Because you only live in this exact moment.
Non-attachment is the key. And I don't mean "I won't get attached tomorrow or the day after." Tomorrow and the day after are irrelevant. What matters is what you think, feel, and know in this very instant.

How much does your current perception grasp and understand? Are we even "human" in that sense? When your perception shifts—when you expand it—the question arises: are we actually humans, and if so, what exactly are we?
We probably are humans for some reason, given the label we use. If you are simply a human being and nothing else... 😁... to which Source will you return, if that Source isn't "humanity" or "man"?
If the Source isn't that, then what is it?
And if the Source is that, then what are you?
Questions that demand intense contemplation... and ultimately, an answer. Perhaps that is the whole point... ???

Holding onto anything whatsoever prevents you from truly knowing yourself.
If you are clinging to something, how can you ever return to the Source?
Perhaps the Source doesn't possess those qualities you listed; maybe they are just traits your mind wants to have, but you, as a "future" Source, don't actually hold those qualities in your core!?!
That requires genuine self-discovery.
That is why all these "spiritual" techniques and spiritual efforts are essentially fabrications...
Perhaps you, as Essence, can adopt all those qualities and use them as tools for discovery, but you aren't any of them!
Perhaps you aren't even what you think you are right now... !!!

I'm saying perhaps... 🙂
The answer has to be yours...
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
Hannah Morris3 said:I highly doubt they’re living in a place like NYC...
Honestly, I think achieving that state completely—and permanently—is impossible for any human being. We're social creatures by design. Sure, we have our own individual consciousness, but we also have fundamental human needs. If we "strip away" our humanity, what's left? Are we becoming something greater than human, or just something less?

The real question is, what would you actually want to be?
A human being, or something more—or perhaps something less?
And more importantly, what do you think you actually are?

We all carry this deep-seated fear of losing a piece of our humanity. But then again, none of us are truly "human." We're just performing the role. We tremble at the thought of losing something we don't even possess, except in our most daring dreams...

What do you even have left to lose, Hannah Morris3?
What part of yourself would you fight to keep, and why?
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Hannah Morris3 said:Is it actually possible to fully strip away society's influence from your psyche? Has anyone ever truly pulled that off?

I've run into a few people who have managed it.
It’s called solitude.
Not loneliness.
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
And for all we know, he wasn't even talking about the kind of society you’re picturing. He might have meant something entirely different when he said he doesn't belong. Maybe the real "society" is just the one we carry inside ourselves... the internal noise. Perhaps it’s actually harder to purge that inner conditioning than it is to simply walk away from the crowd.
Maybe...
Or maybe not... 🙂
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
I sent you a message.
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
Even less intuitive than they look.
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
Nancy Thompson3 said:I guess life is just some kind of activity performed by a structure that's capable of staying alive, replicating itself, and adapting—or evolving, I suppose—within its environment. But it shouldn't be just some digital optimization. Even though a computer virus and a biological one aren't fundamentally different in how they operate, the first one isn't truly alive because it lacks a physical, bodily presence.

🙂
Wonderful.
Honestly, I can't tell if you're actually describing what life is to you or just describing a movie plot. 🙂

So, how would you answer this one:
Who are you?
Is spirituality a form of personal growth? in Spirituality ·
Nancy Thompson3 said:I mean, I guess it makes sense to ask him that, but I’d probably throw in another thought:

If that's the case, then what's even the difference between actual existence and just sitting through a movie at the AMC?

What even is life?
If you can give me an answer to that... then maybe I'll tell you the difference.... 🙂