Karen Sanchez19: _____________________________ I honestly don't understand how one's selfhood can split into an observer... I can wrap my head around the ego, but an observer? By definition, an observer is someone standing on the sidelines, so how can the selfhood somehow fracture into an observer that exists outside of itself? It sounds impossible, because an observer is external to the self, not a component of it. ____________________________
Of course it can't, Karen Sanchez19. But you see, that is exactly the trap set for us by Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad. They achieve this by forcing that SPLIT within the original, whole human being—dividing us into sides of GOOD and EVIL.
Nowadays, those fraudulent spiritual "Gurus" use that exact same tactic.
It’s all tied to this "ego" concept you mentioned. The "EGO," Karen Sanchez19, can only exist because of this fabricated DUALITY. The "EGO" is presented as something you must "transcend," "discard," "suppress," or "overcome." But who exactly is supposed to perform these actions WITHIN US? It is that FUCKING imaginary, pathological "Watcher" they claim exists, Karen Sanchez19. You cannot simply "assign" yourself an "EGO" without also creating a supposed level within yourself that is "BETTER" than that "EGO." A level that serves to legitimize that very "EGO." And in doing so, they effectively PROLONG your own potential AWAKENING for all eternity.👋
Karen Sanchez19: _________________________ They didn't even start anything meaningful... what a hellish existence on this earth we endure... and what about the people who have never heard of them or read a single word about them? Who was it that unleashed this hell upon them? _________________________
Karen Sanchez19, stop wasting your breath on trivialities. The Master John speaks regarding "TODAY." He describes a world where three religious "titans" and one religious "iguana" all claw for their own version of "TRUTH," each protecting their own flock.
Buddhists, Christians, Muslims, and Jews. The planet Earth is governed and regulated by religious Schizophrenia. And all four of these VOIDS condition, nurture, and fail to cure this SCHIZOPHRENIA. One follows after the other, in a perpetual cycle.
The Master John diagnoses this hellish state like this, Karen Sanchez19:
Both Abraham, Buddha, Jesus, and Muhammad tell us that MAN IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO PLEASE GOD.
Like four orangutans from Sumatra, if they were to stumble upon SELFHOOD tomorrow, they would simply sit there wailing about a lost DIVINE KINGDOM.
Follow the pattern, Karen Sanchez19. The MASTER'S FORMULA FOR HELL.
The HELLISH FORMULA dictates that SALVATION, NIRVANA, PARADISE, ENLIGHTENMENT... MUST BE BLOODILY EARNED. First, because you are unworthy of GOD. Second, because you must earn GOD.
Do you see WHO and WHAT separates us from God of ours, Karen Sanchez19? Do you realize WHO and WHAT those vampires are, sucking our blood, our spirit, and our very human energy?
We can barely find our footing in this world before we are already being taught how to spit on ourselves. Upon the purest of GOD'S CREATIONS. Before we have even mastered basic survival, we are forced into the molds of "spiritual" affiliations, schools, or denominations. Hardly able to grasp the alphabet, and already we are being coerced by their holy books.
Do you grasp this MASTER'S "hell," Karen Sanchez19? This hellish MATHEMATICS that turns you into an enemy of your own selfhood, and everyone else's? You are forced to restrain your own SELFHOOD according to the literal words of their LIES.
How much energy has been cast into the WIND OF ENVY? How much teeth-gritting occurs during our most beautiful moments? How much EVIL resides within US, which we inflict upon ourselves?
And so we struggle, gnawing at ourselves through life, just to curry favor with HOLY SERVANTS who pin us to the ground like lizards, rather than treating us as humans.
Abraham the troglodyte, Buddha the LUNATIC, Jesus the narcissist, Muhammad the spokesperson—they are all the architects of this HELLISH BULLSHIT of our miserable and pathetic existence. The COSMOLOGOS has not truly AWAKENED any of them, Karen Sanchez19 or Parsifal.
Only the "AWAKENING" of ABSOLUTE CONSCIOUSNESS will make you a LOVER OF THE UNIVERSE. If you love EVERYTHING THAT IS, it is because you have understood the true nature of this and that world.
From what depths of mind and reason, or from what shackles of a dark heart, could you ever call ANYONE unworthy of God? From what formulas would you then shape and support ONLY YOUR OWN TRIBE? How could you call a naked child of God dirty or impure?
That is how HELL was created, Karen Sanchez19. First, inside our own heads. Spoken from the mouths of a few ENORMOUS FOOLS into our small ears.😎 😁
Hey Jack Harris3, are those little pups of yours being kept safe from any vampire attacks? What on earth have you named your little Cherubs, if I may be so bold as to ask?🙂 😠 👍 😎 👋
From the very moment Parsifal joined this list, Master Ivan has voiced consistent criticisms regarding her visual and graphic orientation. Is there any point in even discussing the terminology used here? When we look at how users are labeled—referring to a "forumist" using exclusively masculine descriptors in their profiles—it raises certain questions about our standards. And then there is the matter of the quoting system; why continue with this outdated method of displaying a fading username instead of simply using a clean "QUOTE" tag? It seems we are clinging to inefficient habits when better ways exist.
Master Ivan would much rather manually type out "Parsifal" followed by two dots than sit there listening to some sterile, Anglo-Saxon electronic "replay" command. It is truly remarkable how incomprehensible Master Ivan’s "posts" actually are when you consider their sheer lack of substance.
Parsifal: __________________________ I find myself entirely unconvinced, and frankly, I believe your reasoning is rather thin. If you're going to make such radical assertions, shouldn't you perhaps attempt to explain them with a bit more elegance? ___________________________ Radicalism is nothing more than a mental construct, Parsifal; it exists solely within the confines of our own perceptions. The deeper you descend into the thick of the fray, the more radical these "new" ideologies inevitably become.
Master Ivan wouldn't dream in his wildest fantasies that you would react to his "radical" approach with such immediate, unbridled hostility. That is because you buried that poor, unenlightened Gautam Buddha right alongside your own ego.
Forget those "magnificent" spirits you keep talking about for a second; they don't make Master Ivan’s creation nearly as "radical" as you seem to believe. Forget about Gautam Buddha, and frankly, forget everyone else too. Take a moment to contemplate Master Ivan’s little hypothesis—it is remarkably simple, quite clear, and laid out with such striking brevity. Of course, you're treating that as nothing more than an assumption. For Master Ivan, this is simply his destiny—it is the absolute truth.
So, Master Ivan is asking you, Parsifal, if you actually grasp what he’s referring to when he talks about the fragmentation of the human personality? Or perhaps we should be discussing the "polarization" of the "self" between the "observer" and the "ego"? Or should we call it a total "schizophrenia" of the individual consciousness?
And then, if you really think about it, there is that one "vampire" who sits there, sucking the very lifeblood out of all of you "decision-makers" while you're busy being drained? Look, if you simply cannot grasp this one fundamental point, then we are never going to reach enlightenment.🙏 👍
RzKzotrz: __________________________ Is this a definitive claim, or just a momentary slip regarding legitimacy? (In response to Goldman Sachs) _________________________
Paul Campbell3: ___________________________ Look, it’s just like those kids playing tag in the playground—they kept running around from Wednesday to Friday, but they never actually made any real progress beyond the starting line. ___________________________
Kate Lee12: ____________________________ Based on what you just wrote, are you actually suggesting that "enlightenment" has absolutely nothing to do with "spirituality"? _____________________________
What kind of "spirituality" are we even talking about here? Where on earth are you seeing any trace of "spirituality" in this, Rze-Brzotrz? 😛
Gaudrath: ______________________________ ... so, isn't it a bit obvious that the idea of enlightenment being something we simply wait for, rather than an active pursuit, has finally surfaced?... ________________________________
The school of "waiting" has been a legitimate pillar of spirituality since the beginning of time.
It has absolutely nothing to do with importing Eastern concepts into the West, Gaudrathe. 😎 😎
Gaudrath: ______________________________ Can there truly be any understanding without confrontation? We are forced to face our illusions head-on, simply because avoiding them is an impossibility. _______________________________
YOU alone are nothing more than an ILLUSION, And your so-called "SELF" is merely a CLUSTER OF ILLUSIONS. If you begin a "search" in such a manner, you are merely inviting Schizophrenia into your own soul. If you attempt to fracture your identity—to split your very SELF into an ILLUSION designed to dismantle another ILLUSION—it will feel as though a vampire is draining your life force away.
Within this HELLISH "revelation" lies the functional "secret" behind every "established" faith and "religiosity" in existence, Gaudrathe. Because of this SCHIZOPHRENIA, the master of deception, John, denies even Buditi, Jesus, and Muhammad any claim to ENLIGHTENMENT, Parsifal.
In reality, Buditi, Jesus, and Muhammad are the true architects of HELL on this EARTH.
For they were the ones who first ignited HELL within our very souls.😕 🙄 😉
Unknown: _____________________________ Furthermore, I am certainly not one of those people who pretends to have reached some state of enlightenment just to make everyone else look foolish, acting as if I’ve grasped some grand truth while the rest of you remain in the dark... ______________________________
It would be highly beneficial for you to distinguish just one thing, Unknown. Is the MASTER delivering this message to you telling the TRUTH, or is he not?
If he IS, then he isn't "spitting on anyone"; rather, he is teaching you all in his own way about things you simply don't understand yet.
If he ISN'T, then again, he isn't "spitting on anyone," he has simply lost his mind and crashed onto this "Forum." The poor man.
The third possibility is also worth considering. And if even just the TWO of you can determine whether the person before you is a TRUE MASTER, it would be of immense help, Unknown.
Unknown: ____________________________________ No, actually, if you had taken a single second of your time to actually read what was written, you might have concluded that the quote in question was directed at you... I am not one of those people who puts blind faith in ratios (whatever that may be... ______________________________________
Master John did not see it the way you did. There are other eyes present here, so why not ask them?👋
Grizli: ______________________________ I honestly can't tell if Jose Reyes will come to this realization on his own... because if he does, doesn't that just prove the Buddha wasn't actually enlightened? _______________________________
Grizli, I owe a deep bow to a Mastercraft for such profound INSIGHT.👍 👍 👍 👍 👍 🙂
Gaudrath: ____________________________ —I am searching for something here, but what I see more and more is that the collective enlightenment quotient on this thread is roughly on par with the bottom layers of a discarded mattress. ___________________________
Well, you aren't wrong.
Gaudrath: ____________________________ Look, I came here to offer some wisdom, but people, what you are doing is giving me gray hairs. From John, who takes a koan from a book and declares it a non-koan (when it actually concerns Japanese Zen master Muju), ____________________________
Put the book aside when you are standing before a living MASTER, Gaudrathe. It isn't a KOAN, nor can it ever be.
Master John provided the implicit definition of a KOAN in his last "post" just for you. Simply out of respect for the dignity of that Zen MASTER, why don't you double-check whether the story mentioned in his text is CLEARLY MARKED as a KOAN, or if you are merely calling it that because of the BOOK TITLE or perhaps a specific chapter heading.
Gaudrath: ____________________________ —all the way up to Grizlijev, who is trying to convince me that enlightenment is achieved simply by putting a ponytail on your head and—waiting. ___________________________
Enlightenment "as such" imposes NO CONDITIONS, Gaudrathe. Therefore, Grizlijev’s point stands 100%.
Gaudrath: ____________________________ —that might even be true, provided we bore the universe so much that it forces enlightenment upon us after ten thousand incarnations. _____________________________
That is beautifully put.
And America will join the EU whether it wants to or not. They will force us inside once we finally "bore" them enough.
Gaudrath: ____________________________ Then why does Buddha's path exist... if one does not "walk" it? _____________________________
Human language, Gaudrathe, is a product of human DUALISTIC consciousness. Furthermore, a language of NON-DUALITY is not possible in and of itself. Consequently, these "paths" that "are not walked" are merely a desperate "CONCESSION" to human "conditioned" communication. The INEFFABLE cannot be expressed by any means whatsoever. That is why Master John emphasizes this as being "desperate."
Gaudrath: ____________________________ Buddha certainly walked it; enlightenment didn't just fall from the sky onto his head... it was a quest, and in every quest—one goes somewhere and arrives somewhere, even if your body never leaves its chair. ______________________________
The MASTER'S comment here is identical to his earlier reflection on the nature of THOUGHT and UNDERSTANDING. Both "QUEST" and "PATH" are categories of "this world," Gaudrathe. While it may APPEAR that he "walked" the "path of the quest," it is true that for Gautama Buddha, both that "path" and that "quest" were part of the "mundane" experience of perceiving THAT WHICH IS.
When REALIZATION poured over his head, LETTER BY LETTER, how could he possibly depict the previous "path" and "quest"? With what IZRICAJIM? With what COSMIC DICTION, Gaudrathe?
Gaudrath: __________________________________________________ ___________ People... uh. Regardless, I'm tearing it all down. ___________________________________
Tear it down, then come back again. That is precisely the APPARENT "path" and "quest" in YOUR case.😢
Parsifal: ______________________________ SUCCESS IS MERELY HUMAN PROOF _____________________________
Parsifal, I suspect your Buddha would take great issue with you attempting to validate his "Buddha-ness" through mere "success."
Master John hasn't witnessed a larger circus in quite some time. Would you care to admit if this was all just a little scheme that happened to pan out for you, Parsifal?😲
Kate Lee12: ________________________ I certainly hope I’m not merely deluding myself by believing ________________________
Seriously, who on earth butchered this logic?
"That which truly exists, when everyone claims it exists, is nothing more than a trick played on the fool who believes he has grasped something beyond his reach, all while convincing himself he has simply 'ascended' to a higher level of consciousness?"
Are you actually deceiving yourself just to maintain the illusion that you aren't deceiving yourself?🙂 😠
Kate Lee12: _____________________________ Is it not true that when someone claims to possess the ultimate truth, they are merely playing a deceptive game with themselves—convincing their own soul that they have grasped the infinite, when in reality, they have simply climbed a single rung on the ladder of consciousness? _______________________________
This applies perfectly to all those self-proclaimed gurus and "masters" who haven't actually undergone any real transformation. They are nothing more than an ILLUMINATION DUST CLOUD. As for the others, you wouldn't even begin to comprehend them, Kate Lee12.😁 🙂
hollowviper72: ____________________________ Everything we can possibly say regarding the self must be rooted in our own direct experiences—never in someone else's. Isn't that the entire point of a koan? ___________________________
hollowviper72, that isn't even a koan to begin with.
And secondly: how on earth could you imagine a koan that exists merely to "validate" one's own personal experience? A koan is constructed and presented specifically to tear those very "personal experiences" into absolute shreds, don't you think? Comprehendo?😕 🙄 😉
Jack Harris3: _________________________________ And you honestly believe she exists? _________________________________
Master John isn't even thinking about it anymore. (Just look at the post above)
The real sharks in the financial sector are picking the bones clean. To the point where Master John can't even see what's happening right in front of him. Would you say they're working overtime just to make sure he stays blind? Presto!😛 😎
hollowviper72: ____________________________ As long as you continue thinking that way, you’ll find yourself stuck in a permanent stalemate. _____________________________
Master John doesn't need to sit around "thinking" about it. Everything he needs is already right there in front of him. He isn't standing still in a dead end, hollowviper72.😎 🙂