Posts by redrider63

Anthony Rodriguez58 said:Like a group of blind men trying to describe an elephant.
One claims the elephant is long and thin like a snake (the trunk), another insists it is rounded and wide (the leg), while a third argues it is flat (the ear)... yet all of them are describing the very same elephant.

there are individuals who can actually PERCEIVE THAT WHICH

IS INTANGIBLE 😉

they even go so far as to SEE it.

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When the sage known as Gautama Buddha proclaimed that there is no eternal Selfhood, he was speaking from the vantage point of having already experienced enlightenment. That is to say, he spoke after the moment when the Atman (the Self) had been shed.
Consequently, it is a mistake to believe that the Self does not exist at all;
the concept of non-Self, or non-Atman, is utterly meaningless if it doesn't negate an experience that actually occurs.
THEREFORE, ALTHOUGH BUDDHA WENT A STEP FURTHER THAN THE HINDU REALIZATION OF ATMAN, no one can take that final step without first realizing the Atman. To experience the loss of the Self, the Self must have existed in the first place. That is simply how the process unfolds.
Since the Atman eventually falls away, it is clearly not the Absolute or Brahman.
What we perceive as our permanent Self is nothing more than the illusion we have previously discussed—an illusion that effectively functions as the Self.
However, using the term "illusion" does not imply that the Self is a lie; it merely signifies that it represents a relative truth rather than an absolute one.

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Consciousness is not the medium through which we come to know the Self; consciousness can only ever recognize what it is NOT.

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I am waiting for the Absolute and Brahman to fall away too.

I am waiting for sense and logic to fall away.

I am waiting for TRUTH to fall away.

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I would earnestly request that redrider63 and ambereagle642 share some additional insights from their respective works, specifically passages where
one attempts to experience Selfhood—and please, focus on the sections that you both consider to be the most profound or even jarring.

Based on my reading thus far, I find that "Truth" itself stands as perhaps the most legitimate candidate for a true master,

given that there is an overwhelming amount of intentionality and lecture-style instruction here,

whereas that raw, unrefined spontaneity

is nowhere to be found.

Light said:Essentially, we are likely to encounter a vast array of experiences that will stir either profound sorrow or intense joy within both of us... though, in the grand scheme of things, those emotions themselves aren't the point. What truly matters is how these moments shape our inner selves... what we eventually recognize within them...

You know, that idea from... toward the end... that nothing happens without serving the ultimate purpose of our own lasting well-being...👍

and even a killer is on his way to becoming a saint

so he claims—EVERYTHING IS PERFECTLY WHOLE AT ALL TIMES

Hesse -Siddhartha

it’s all there, right there 😉

Krinka said:It’s something I deal with quite frequently. 🙂

well, what else is there to say? 😉

ENLIGHTENED MASTER said:_____________________________

redrider63, you are perpetually just recognizing what is already (already) present in your "mind."
Any such exalted reading-welcoming is merely a sign that you are still sitting in the theater at Kinemaskop alongside Krinka and Endless.
It is nothing more than a matinee for teenagers.

Then there is that one certain diaspora type who would say:

"GO ON, REDRIDER, GO ON, THE TROUBLEMAKERS ARE BREEDING,
GO ON, REDRIDER, GO ON, MASHALAH!"👋 😁

Now you suddenly want to be the director in the cinema, playing your own little movie... or perhaps the teacher in the classroom, scribbling on the chalkboard... or maybe you fancy yourself a chef, feeding others with your own cooking... yet you haven't even watched the film to its conclusion, nor have you learned how to write on the board without your chalk constantly snapping, and you certainly haven't digested what was shoved down your throat—all while trying to cook for someone else...
So, swallow it, watch the whole thing, find a chalkboard, and learn how to actually hold the chalk and write...

until then 👋

Krinka said:But you can't force anything! Absolutely nothing! You can't force protection, you can't force surrender, you can't force understanding or acceptance... It either happens, or it doesn't. 😢

When certain words resonate deeply within your heart, when the things you read feel as though they are being experienced from the inside—as if you were voicing them yourself for the very first time—that is the signal. That is the sign that it has occurred... that someone is speaking words that truly reveal your own essence to you. These words aren't violent; you don't find yourself fighting them or struggling against them, at least not any more than you struggle with your own soul... When that happens, it is a genuine transfer, a touch felt exactly as you intended to emphasize... and then, that is it. It simply happens...
Remember, I am certain you have experienced something similar... and that is the extent of what anyone—myself included—can actually do: recognize a true touch and a real transfer, or conversely, cut off something that isn't that. To reject imposition, coercion, or anything of that nature... that is where your protection lies.
Having the power to stop something that does not resonate with you... that is true agency.

Jose Reyes said:redrider63 is BELOW THE BELT:
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I've already told you everything... do you really need me again?
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You had already laid it all out for John before you even realized what was happening, you low-life, redrider63.
Long before you started scribbling on the Enlightened master's chalkboard.

If you want to have a real conversation with the Master, you do it within The Accomplices. You and that believer copperowl2 are barely scratching the surface of basic maturity.
Perhaps your parents should drop you off at John's Great Academy of Enlightenment tomorrow morning.
At eight-thirty sharp. You can sit there together. 🙂

you're honestly just a joke of a person...😁 👋
such a pathetic display of bullying...

Jose Reyes said:redrider63:
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I opened up to the Enlightened master about what I’ve been carrying, but I already know he isn't going to grasp it...
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Are you suggesting there is such a thing as "understanding" before one has fully plunged into the Truth?
Or perhaps you are implying that this particular Master hasn't actually immersed himself in that Truth yet?
Whichever path you choose to take, be prepared to defend your logic, truth seeker.
It’s a tedious task ahead of you.😉

I have already laid everything out for you... do you really find yourself coming back to me again?
Did I not make it clear that your need for me far outweighs my need for you?
Whatever it is you are hunting for, whatever it is you think you require—you won't find it here.

I shared my thoughts with the mentor, but I suspect he won't truly grasp my perspective...

Everything you’ve said rings true... it is simply the way things are, and there isn't much one can do about it. We are essentially confined to specific ideological spheres, each developing and shaping our personalities according to its own internal logic. You belong to one matrix, I belong to a third, and so on. Ultimately, everything boils down to a clash of ideas or the sheer weight of truth carried by a particular concept. The idea that generates a higher vibrational force will inevitably assert itself and prevail. It is entirely natural; it aligns perfectly with the maturity and lived experience of the soul. Those who possess greater depth and realization will naturally project that onto others. In that same vein, a mentor serves their purpose for someone else, regardless of whether that person disagrees or—in my case—finds them irrelevant. If a personality lacks the strength to maintain its own integrity, then it lacked strength and maturity to begin with. Most likely, you, I, and many others here are engaged in this exact same process, just within
the confines of different Ideas. Of course, everyone believes they are exempt from this, because their chosen ideology possesses its own built-in mechanisms to defend against being unmasked... but the moment you manage to momentarily detach from any single idea (if such a thing is even possible), the reality becomes clear.
No one can do anything other than live out what they inherently possess and follow the idea that offers more liberation and fulfillment than all the others. Perhaps the greatest feat a person can attempt is to feel words through their most authentic self—to locate that core and listen to it as intently as possible...

Jose Reyes said:redrider63:
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And just like that, you've stumbled upon THAT ONE ultimate realization...
Bravo, oh great master...

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My thanks, truly. This is how a real conversation should flow—with a true truth seeker.🙂

I will always find a reason to applaud such masterful wit.
... 😉

Jose Reyes said:redrider63:
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only once you realize that you need me more than I need you...
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After that ONE REALIZATION, what other insights could a truth seeker possibly gain from a master?

The concepts of "needing" and "dependency" are merely terms belonging to a "particular consciousness"—one that still attempts to categorize truth and lies into separate piles.😉

and thus, you reach that ONE REVELATION ...
congratulations, oh great master ...

copperowl2 said:😎
Go ahead and try to actually live this out in the real world; once you attempt to manifest these ideas through action, you won't feel the urge to post about them publicly ever again.
Who on this forum is actually going to take you seriously?
Who here truly understands the depth of what you’re attempting to articulate?
Those who rely solely on their narrow, limited intellect will simply mock you, while those who sense the truth with their hearts will fall into a trance, becoming obsessively attached to your ego.
The result will be a trail of enemies behind you and women screaming for you to defend them unconditionally.
Ultimately, both groups will turn on you, because you are exposing SOMETHING that strips away their arrogant logic and false emotions, revealing them to be nothing more than a basket of vacuous straw.
And make no mistake, the fury of the sleeping masses is far from harmless. 🙏

I won't truly know until I have successfully implemented this in practice. Until then, whether I speak or remain silent makes little difference... 😉

One can lie through silence just as easily as through speech; in essence, by speaking of these things, one is already engaged in a degree of self-deception. But what choice is left if there is a desire to give voice to something? How could anyone truly wish to be silent? True silence only arrives after the storm has run its course and found its resolution; everything else is merely an imitation...

It is only when you finally come to realize that you need me far more than I ever needed you... that you will truly grasp the very foundations upon which your expertise was built, and understand exactly where your light originates...

copperowl2 said:There is one significant hurdle standing in our way, and I call it "illusory cooperation." 😉
From this facade of cooperation, a certain kind of existence emerges that defies all our established "models."
However, time will eventually reveal that this supposed "spontaneous life" is nothing more than just another sophisticated model of self-deception.
In order for a person to truly live "spontaneously," they would effectively have to DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
Is there anyone here actually prepared to embrace that? 🙄

For someone to reach that state—to truly do nothing at all—they must first exhaust every possible avenue. They have to push themselves to the absolute limit of their capacity, traveling to the very edges of this world. It only happens when you surrender everything you possess because there is simply nothing left to take; it occurs only when the hunger of selfishness finally consumes itself, when everything from this physical world and its nature burns away until there is nowhere left to lean, to rest, or to hide. It happens when there are no more skins to wear, no more fires to light, no more lies to tell, and no more garments of joy or sorrow to put on. When your hands become empty and everything they touch turns to void, much like the hands themselves... when all that remains within a human being is the rhythmic beat of a heart, while everything else dissolves into silence and nothingness... only then can
the River of Life ... the sole Grace ...

We can only attempt to follow our own nature moment by moment, to the best of our ability and through the methods we know, slowly transcending our own limitations without resorting to self-inflicted violence. I see no other way.

No one in this world can truly do anything else... you put it beautifully... we simply aren't capable of
living out our true nature. Truth, God, Knowledge—these are all merely tools and means to help us achieve it,
to actually live it. But what exactly is this nature that we struggle to embody? Are we constantly in contact with it? Is who we are right now a reflection of that essence? Why are we unable to live as our truest selves? Where does this feeling originate, and when do you recognize it? When was it at its loudest and most visceral in your life? These are the questions that draw you closer to what you call "your nature." There are those who have already encountered their true nature—the very thing you desire to live, yet lack the knowledge to fully grasp... they have understood it more deeply than we have, leaving markers along the path to guide us toward our own discovery...
Truth isn't something hidden away, nor is it revealed in a single flash; truth is something you come to know, something you uncover by living it, by walking the path... by becoming everything for that inner nature, as you say...
Ideas are nothing more than seeds. Some will take root within you and sprout into shoots, some even into great trees with sprawling canopies, always evolving into something larger and fuller than the initial thought itself. Others will fail to germinate entirely, depending entirely upon your own maturity and capacity to receive, just as it depends on the inherent strength of the ideas themselves. Those you are ready to embrace will strike roots in you; you will nourish them, and you will grow alongside them. The others? They will belong to someone else. Every person possesses their own unique symbols, their own ideas that resonate with their specific being... not every seed is suited for every soil, and not every soil is meant for every seed. In much the same way, some ideas exist solely to lead you toward a new idea, and who knows how far that journey might go... eventually, there will come a time when words that currently leave you unmoved—words that hold no weight—will be felt more tangibly than
the physical reality you see before your eyes. Only then will you look back at how you felt just a few years ago, perhaps feeling disconnected from yourself, and you will smile at the memory...
All models must eventually fracture under the sheer weight of existence, which perpetually burdens the intellect with a load heavier than the mind itself, releasing a fullness within a person that no rigid model can contain or accept—it can only be embraced through life itself, emerging from within...
Thus, there are living words and dead words. You will always feel the living words with a singular power, a power born from the raw experience of
life...

Life holds its beauty precisely because it exists above the reach of mere rules...

What matters, matters; and what doesn't matter? Well, that simply doesn't matter...

You see these fishermen bickering back and forth, trying to outdo one another over who’s got the superior nets, the sharper hooks, or the better bait... then they just descend into those endless, repetitive fishing tall tales.

Meanwhile, old man Fisher just drifts right past them in total silence... nobody even notices him or hears him coming.
At his age, he isn't even out there casting lines anymore; the fish practically jump right into his bare hands.

Paul Campbell3 said:Fortunately, I am quite aware of my own "segments," as you so colorfully put it.

For instance, people on this forum try to lecture me on just about everything, whether it's in the short term or the long haul.😁

There are moments when certain individuals irritate me so profoundly that I feel an actual urge to strike them—to "crack their heads open," in your charming terminology. 🤣

As for you?
You leave me entirely indifferent.
In fact, your stubborn obsession with proving your supposed "visionary" status to the rest of this community is precisely what makes me laugh.
Because you are lying to yourself as much as you are to us. If you truly want to offer advice, I suggest you apply it to your own life first. Only then might we actually have a meaningful conversation.

By acting this way, you prove that you are, in fact, the one sleeping most soundly of all.

And yet, you walk around under the delusion that you are wide awake.
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YOU YOU YOU
good grief
how can anything happen when the shell of the personality doesn't crack even slightly, allowing something impersonal to sprout through? Or when we fail to realize that the exact same river flows behind both your ego and his? That same force, that Spirit, those very words crave nothing more than to illuminate and demystify the lies residing within both of you...
If only you could glimpse one another through that tiny fissure, you would understand each other instantly... but as it stands, this will take time, though perhaps that is the only way it can be...
You are searching for one another—that is the purest form of seeking. That is why these posts alternate, why this dynamic exists, and why there is such an exchange. Sometimes it hurts, because it has to hurt, but that pain eventually gives way to joy, peace, and entirely new perspectives...

Do you desire peace?
By killing the storm, you
do you kill the peace by destroying the storm? ...
do you kill desire by seeking apathy? ...
Every choice we make, every word uttered—no matter how universal, absolute, or true it may seem—inevitably brings both creation and destruction in its wake. To give to one is to take from another. This duality is born from that fundamental crack in consciousness at the very core of our being, through which development
manifests within this world and within this nature striving for balance ...
The One became two so that it might once again become a deeper, fuller One.

How, then, can one perform an action, a deed, that does not cause harm or inflict pain upon another? Within duality resides all radiation, and where are we to find the purity required to even dare to think
that we could ever truly embody pure love? Perhaps we will always have to keep our eyes partially closed. Maybe it is easiest to simply say that we are guided solely by divine direction—that God speaks through us, and in that moment, there is no "me" and no "you." That His will moves everything and everything is His Grace, regardless of what I do or have done ...
And yet, even while in harmony with that flow, we will eventually realize that we still offer resistance, however small, just enough to remain alive or to maintain the claim of being human, and
thus the process of purification continues, never reaching a final end ...
even within those things we call Eternity, Truth, Love, and God ...
there always exists gold, more gold... a sun of suns... love, more love... God, more God ...
an endless journey and eternally new dawns ...
🙂