Posts by Jesse Fox5
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Susan James said:Did anyone here actually say that what she told her mom was considered normal? 🤔
What are you even talking about?😕
And did you actually run into that girl's mother?
Also, by the way, how did everyone else at the table react when she said that to her mom? Did everyone just sit there in awkward silence and judge her under their breath (only to vent about it on a forum later), or did people actually speak up and show they were disgusted?
Why on earth would I confront her? We aren't even that close. If we were, I’d definitely tell her exactly what I think. My aunt actually asked her how she could possibly allow that to happen, and she just gave a shrug like it was nothing.🤷
Whenever we’re having casual small talk, I’ll try to slip in something about how kids really need proper guidance, but she just pretends she didn't hear me. She genuinely thinks she’s doing a great job. Spoiler alert: she isn't.
There's a whole list of stuff... like slamming doors whenever she doesn't get her way IMMEDIATELY. And don't even get me started on her staying up until all hours and then sleeping halfway through the next day. Honestly, if this keeps up, I can't even imagine what she'll be like in a few years.😲
What exactly is "scary" about those expressions?????? What I actually saw was scary.
So, her mom is basically catering to her every whim when it comes to food. I mean... she asked for steak and baked potatoes... and her mom actually made it. This little brat sat down, took one bite of a potato, and just pushed the plate away. Nothing. Half an hour later, she’s snacking on ice cream and chugging Coca-Cola. That definitely wouldn't fly at my house. You hungry? No?
Fine then, you can wait until dinner for that meal. No ice cream and none of that nonsense. Just you wait... once she's actually hungry, she'll start respecting the food and the effort someone put into making it.
If she were to, as you put it, totally lose it with me, she'd be sent straight to her room to cool off until she apologized. Even if that takes all day.
And what part of that is supposed to be scary ??? I don't get it.
Nicholas King said:Alright, let's get real here—how does that actually work in practice?
The kid talks back to you or treats you like garbage for the very first time—what do you actually do or say in that moment?
Then, after you’ve tried your first "correction," the kid doubles down and disrespects you all over again—what’s your move then?
And what happens when you’ve gone through two, maybe even three attempts at handling it, and they still just keep pushing your buttons and acting out—what exactly are you supposed to do at that point?
Man... there are a ton of ways. Setting boundaries, having actual conversations. And consequences, obviously. 🙂
She needs to put in some work if she wants something instead of just sitting there demanding it. Like, if she doesn't eat the lunch she asked for, she's gonna end up hungry, simple as that. There are plenty of ways to handle it.
For example... when my little girl was three, she started pulling people's hair. Everyone was just taking it like an idiot. I wasn't. I gave her a little tug myself so she'd realize it hurts. That shut it down real quick.
The way teenagers talk to each other these days is just... wild. Honestly, even back when I was in high school, I talked totally differently with my friends—but it never once crossed my mind to turn around and tell my mom to eat dirt or call her an idiot.
I just don't get how this is considered "normal" for some people. Everything seems to be "normal" now—even kids acting like they're way older than they actually are—so where does it end?
In my opinion, it’s all because kids aren't spending enough quality time with adults anymore. They're either glued to their friends or just staring at a screen alone. It’s like letting ten puppies loose in a living room and expecting them not to tear the place apart. Unless Mom or Dad steps in to take control, there's just going to be chaos.
It’s the same thing with kids in general. They're going to push boundaries. It's honestly sad that some parents let their kids get away with absolutely anything. And then, the second you try to point out the nonsense their kid is pulling, they turn around and attack *you* instead of actually dealing with their child.
What I shared earlier is honestly just the tip of the iceberg. The whole issue is that she keeps claiming she’s raising her kid to be "independent" and whatever—blah, blah, blah. But the kid is a total disaster... she'll beg for lunch and then won't touch a single bite (and trust me, food waste drives me absolutely insane), plus there were five bags of chips and three chocolate bars just sitting out... she's just straight-up disrespectful to her mom and everyone else around her. She insists she's "communicating" with her, but honestly? Those talks achieve nothing. Lord help us. When I look back at my own daughter when she was nine... it's night and day.
Look, I can be pretty tough sometimes—I don't mess around when it comes to certain things. Not even a little bit. And because of that, you can actually show up somewhere with your kid without worrying that you're going to embarrass yourself.
My daughter is "independent" too and definitely has her own personality, but she isn't some spoiled, rude little monster.
And yeah... those excuses for why they didn't head out to horseback riding right away were basically because her cousin needed to run to Target first and take a quick shower or something.
So, her mom just said, "Hey sweetie, we'll go in about an hour. Sound good?" And the kid practically lost her mind on her mother.
Wait, how does that even work? That’s basically just pre-puberty—it feels like you don't actually have an answer for this...
If it were my kid, I’d probably just enroll her in some intensive behavioral bootcamp or summer camp style program, and honestly, she’d be a totally different person in three or four months.
Nicholas King said:Honestly, this is the level of discourse we're dealing with here—where I'm apparently expected to snap back with something like, "Oh, poor little children of yours, I bet they aren't allowed to do anything at all, right?"
I don't think you'd consider me quite that dim-witted as to actually type something like that out, would you?
Quincy Adams:What can I say? You'll just have to wait in line... :skroman:
Great. Just great.
So here's a question for you. My cousin has a 9-year-old daughter. She never disciplines her because... well, she doesn't want to "stifle her personality."☕
And I actually got a front-row seat to how that kid reacts when she's told "no" for perfectly valid reasons—like when she couldn't go horseback riding when she wanted to. We were all sitting at the dinner table and this little girl looks her mom straight in the eye and says, "I'd love to just take a dump on your head and in your mouth right now."
Talk about an awkward moment for everyone involved. And of course, the kid didn't face a single consequence for it.
Is that what we're calling parenting now? It's honestly pathetic.
So, please, oh wise one, I'm dying to hear your "expert" opinion on this.
Look, let’s be real for a second... I seriously doubt most of you actually live out what you're preaching here. At least I’m being honest about it.
I went through puberty too, and it never crossed my mind to slam doors, scream at my mom, or throw a total tantrum. These days, though, "puberty" seems like the ultimate get-out-of-jail-free card for just being plain rude. It’s like that whole "it's just ADHD" thing—I mean, seriously. Look, it’s totally normal for teenagers to mess up and do stupid stuff that older folks won't like. But when parents start saying, "She’s constantly screaming," or "She just won't listen to anything," then things were already off track from the jump. First, they excuse the bad behavior because the kid is little. Then they excuse it because they're a teen. You can go through those stages without turning into a nightmare.
For example: say a parent and a kid agree that computer time ends at 11 PM. The kid shuts it down, heads to bed, but then sneaks back on at midnight and stares at a screen until 5 AM. They get caught, you have a talk, and you reach another agreement. Then the kid does the exact same thing again. Well, don't screw with me. Just unplug the damn cord—and hey, if you want to lose access to your laptop for two weeks for breaking your word, that's on you. Those are consequences. And they actually work. Or am I suddenly committing child abuse??!!
Nicholas King said:The fear of a damn fine is just going to motivate her to hide the fact she was riding from her parents, not to stop her from riding in the first place.
The fear of a damn fine isn't going to stop some drunk teenager from calling her parents for a ride; instead, she’ll just hop into a car with a friend who is equally wasted.
Ultimately, the fear of a damn fine sends the message that "it's bad to get caught doing this," rather than "doing this is inherently bad."
I seriously love you, you always crack me up. But hey, actually read what I'm saying here—I already said I was down to chat.
Your kids are lucky if you have them—they can basically do whatever they want, right?
Don't get me wrong—I am all for talking things out. Really, I am. But there’s a limit. If I spend months or even years trying to reason with someone who just refuses to listen and keeps pushing their own agenda, then that’s not a conversation anymore—it’s just straight-up provocation and disrespect. And honestly? There are ways to handle that.
Look, it’s like people forget who’s actually in charge here. It’s pretty wild to me that some folks think discipline and setting firm boundaries aren't necessary anymore.
We need manners. We need basic decency.
If having a little bit of fear regarding consequences is what stops—say—a teenager from hopping on some random guy's motorcycle without a helmet, then I say go for it. I'm all for it.
Linda Morris61 said:Do you honestly believe that imposing fines or restrictions will force someone to act with civility? 🤔
Look, friend... parenting starts way before a kid hits 12 or 13. By then, you're already playing catch-up, and that's when things get messy and you're forced to go hard with discipline. I see this disaster happening all around me lately. There’s this little girl in my neighborhood—she's about to start elementary school this fall—and honestly, she's a total wreck. She doesn't listen to anyone, she's completely wild, and she even goes around being mean to animals. It's because there were zero boundaries set early on. If you don't teach them now, they just grow up to be spoiled, selfish jerks. Seriously, what kind of world are we living in??!!!
And yeah, obviously I’m going to discipline my kid if they pull some nonsense. What am I supposed to do, give them a trophy? Or just sit back and wait until they're running headfirst into a wall so we can all have a good cry about it?🙂
I mean, seriously. Kids these days are just straight-up disrespectful... they have zero regard for anyone, especially older people, and they just don't listen. And you guys aren't doing anything about it either. It’s like, everyone thinks it's just some "phase," but then this behavior just keeps happening and happening. Like, where are the consequences? There have to be boundaries... I mean, what are we even doing here? How can you expect any kind of respect if there isn't any discipline or basic rules for how to act in public?
Look, if a kid comes home late once after hanging out with friends—fine, life happens. But if they do it ten times in a row? Yeah, no. They should be grounded, period.
Honestly, I really don't get how some people here are claiming they haven't achieved anything by setting limits... if you can't set boundaries, you basically have zero authority.
What's even the point of being a parent if you just let them run wild and do whatever they want? If that's the case, just start your own little gated community and let them go crazy there.
Rachel Jones8 said:Where did you get the idea that they don't know what they're doing? Like they aren't crazy or impulsive sometimes? It happens.
Look, sending parents to hell—or just being straight-up disrespectful—isn't some "puberty thing," it's just bad parenting. That's my take. Honestly, I was fifteen once, and I never once talked back to my mom like that in my entire life.
People always try to use puberty as a convenient excuse for being straight-up rude and acting out.
Give me a break... honestly, nobody’s hormones are crashing so hard that they lose all sense of what they're doing. Like, sure, they might be wild or swear at their parents—we've all been there—but using it as a get-out-of-jail-free card? Total nonsense.
It honestly blows my mind reading about some 12-year-old kid demanding to stay out late... like, give me a break.
I don't even get why people are debating this—it shouldn't even be a conversation. Then we act all shocked when the news starts running headlines about juvenile delinquency and kids getting into trouble out in the streets.
If it's 11:00 PM, that kid should be tucked into bed, not wandering around outside.