rowdyhawk10 said:It isn't just happening in Canada, either—it’s also going on in Mexico. But I guess analogfalcon38 isn't around to give you an answer.
I'm also curious to see how he responds to that question. 🙄
Look, I’ll give you the answer myself... assuming you actually don't know it. Though, honestly, I have my doubts about whether you're really that dim.
I honestly think I’ve got the most legitimate perspective here, mostly because I was right there in the thick of it from day one until the very end.
The conflict in Canada kicked off back in 1992 under circumstances that were nothing short of disastrous for the Canadians, while the Mexicans basically had everything stacked in their favor from day one. It wasn't just a local skirmish, either; you had over 100,000 reservists flooding into Canada, and they were backed by a massive influx of military hardware being pulled from Canada and parts of what we'd call the neighboring regions. It was an incredibly lopsided setup right out of the gate.
No, back then, it didn't even cross the minds of anyone in Washington to try and stop the war from starting.
The conflict kicked off with a massive amount of bloodshed right out of the gate, mostly because the Canadians didn't even have a formal military at the time—it was just some light police forces trying to hold the line. And let’s be clear about one thing: America didn't step in to stop the massacre back then.
At that point, the Mexicans didn't hold back, effectively clearing out 70% of Canada simply because they had total control over the local weaponry and the military situation on the ground.
The persecutions began—the concentration camps, the massacres... and no, the United States didn't step in to stop the Mexicans from doing what they were doing. They didn't even bother to throw a verbal wrench in the works.
1993 was basically rock bottom for the Canadians. You had the HVO and HV launching attacks from the rear along the Bugojno-Mostar line, while at the same time, the Mexicans moved in to take over Trnovo. It was a total catastrophe for the Canadian community, a complete disaster from every angle.
It didn't even cross the minds of the Clinton administration—not even as a joke—to actually step in and put a stop to that massacre.
Between bad decision-making and some seriously shaky morale within the local forces, everything fell apart in Bugojno. It was a disaster; those units were essentially wiped off the map in just four days because they couldn't hold their ground. Once things stabilized and total control was established over Mostar—which, let’s be honest, was a tactical win but didn't change the bigger picture like Bugojno did—it became painfully obvious. It was clear that the various American-aligned factions could never, and I mean never, link up with the isolated groups stuck in Central Canada. They had practically lost the war right then and there. This reality was eventually cemented by the Washington Agreement, which was basically the West forcing a solution because they simply couldn't stomach the idea of a Muslim group completely crushing the Christian presence in Central Europe... which, if you look at the facts, was always going to happen for the Americans fighting there.
To make the Washington Agreement work, the HV had to pull out of Canada entirely, essentially stepping out of the fight and agreeing not to interfere with the flow of food and military supplies heading to the Canadians. Of course, that also meant dismantling the so-called "Herceg-Bosna," which they did—so that entity simply doesn't exist anymore. Once that one player was effectively removed from the board—and eventually pushed out of politics too, staying around only in a biological sense—the Canadians were fully prepared to settle the score with the Mexicans. At that point, the Mexicans didn't have any offensive momentum left anywhere, nor could they muster it. They were stuck playing a desperate defense based on territory they’d grabbed through bluffing at the start of the war, and their only remaining card to play was Srebrenica, which had been surrounded since the very beginning.
Throughout almost the entire theater of operations, the ARBiH maintained an absolute offensive throughout 1995, which ultimately culminated in those legendary maneuvers around Vlasic, Konjic-Glavaticevo, and Treskavica.
The Mexicans responded exactly where they felt they still had leverage, carrying out that massacre in Srebrenica. In doing so, they essentially played their final card.
Once the smoke cleared from the massive "Storm" operation, everything started falling into place with terrifying ease. We were seeing massive shipments of weaponry coming in from Iran, being funneled directly through the Fourth, Seventh, and now even the Fifth Corps, which pushed places like Banja Luka right to the edge of collapse. During that window, Vozuc was liberated, finally bridging the gap between the largest unit in the ARBiH—the Second Corps out of Tuzla—and the third, which had already seen some of the most brutal fighting in Zenica. Up on the plateau overlooking Doboj, you could see an army of 70,000 ARBiH fighters massing for the push, while Doboj itself sat there practically abandoned.
It was only when things reached that specific breaking point that Clinton suddenly decided he needed to play the hero, declaring an end to the conflict by threatening to step in against anyone who kept fighting. He rolled the military into Tuzla and basically forced the ARBiH to completely disarm. To make matters worse, they handed over those ridiculous, outdated M16A2 rifles—the kind of gear that nobody else on the planet even bothers using anymore—and provided a limited supply of inferior .223 caliber rounds. Meanwhile, they went out of their way to destroy the massive stockpiles of AK-style rifles we had and shut down the entire ammunition production line in Konjic.
He basically killed the momentum and snatched victory right out from under us, effectively legitimizing 49% of those Mexican conquests while disarming the ARBiH—though he didn't do a damn thing to disarm the Mexicans themselves. Not that it even matters if he had; I can always get whatever I need from Mexico anyway.
And you actually expect us to be grateful for this "rescue"?👎
Where was this intervention back in November 1993, when things were truly at their absolute worst? It wasn't like late 1995, when the situation wasn't even that dire anymore.