Posts by Joseph Ramos11

Nancy Thompson3 said:It’s just like how spiritualists can loop themselves in circles asking what consciousness is. It's the same thing, really. Human perception has its limits. But at least physics knows where those boundaries lie—it knows what's just convention, what it doesn't know, and what it does. And it knows how to apply that knowledge. Without any ambiguity.
The corpuscular and wave-like nature of particles? That's what you're stuck on?
Well, look: a particle is something for which we have zero actual experience of what it "is." Simply put, we live in a world of entirely different scales, and our lived experience just doesn't translate to the quantum level. Expecting the quantum realm to behave like the macroscopic world is a dream classical mechanics abandoned a long time ago.
So, an electron is SIMULTANEOUSLY a WAVE and a PARTICLE. Or rather, it is one single reality that we describe through the lens of our own experience—which isn't its experience, it's just our analogy—sometimes calling it a wave and sometimes a particle.
Maybe Bohmian mechanics, which is that unrecognized alternative to the Copenhagen convention, offers a better description.
But the electron is the easy part. The much harder question is WHAT IS SPIN?
The answer? A quantum number, a property. We compare it to "rotation" based on our own experience. Yet, reality shows us that spin simply cannot be rotation.
And what about an electron cloud? It’s a mistake to think of it as a region where an electron is zipping around incredibly fast, creating a cloud. No. It isn't moving so fast that we perceive it as a cloud; it is quite literally everywhere at once, as dense as the probability cloud dictates.
Still, for me, there's only one real answer:
MAN IS NOT THE MEASURE OF ALL THINGS. He only understands life at his own scale of existence. Everything else is incomprehensible to him, except through MATHEMATICS.

But what about this: THE MIND IS NOT THE MEASURE OF ALL THINGS?
What exactly is a human being? Is a person just their mind? Is consciousness the person, or is consciousness the mind? What even defines a "measure," and what are "things" anyway?
Man, what are you even talking about!?!
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Are you discussing reality itself, or just the mental images of things floating around in your head?

Nancy Thompson3 said:It’s just like how spiritualists can loop themselves in circles asking what consciousness is. It's the same thing, really. Human perception has its limits. But at least physics knows where those boundaries lie—it knows what's just convention, what it doesn't know, and what it does. And it knows how to apply that knowledge. Without any ambiguity.
The corpuscular and wave-like nature of particles? That's what you're stuck on?
Well, look: a particle is something for which we have zero actual experience of what it "is." Simply put, we live in a world of entirely different scales, and our lived experience just doesn't translate to the quantum level. Expecting the quantum realm to behave like the macroscopic world is a dream classical mechanics abandoned a long time ago.
So, an electron is SIMULTANEOUSLY a WAVE and a PARTICLE. Or rather, it is one single reality that we describe through the lens of our own experience—which isn't its experience, it's just our analogy—sometimes calling it a wave and sometimes a particle.
Maybe Bohmian mechanics, which is that unrecognized alternative to the Copenhagen convention, offers a better description.
But the electron is the easy part. The much harder question is WHAT IS SPIN?
The answer? A quantum number, a property. We compare it to "rotation" based on our own experience. Yet, reality shows us that spin simply cannot be rotation.
And what about an electron cloud? It’s a mistake to think of it as a region where an electron is zipping around incredibly fast, creating a cloud. No. It isn't moving so fast that we perceive it as a cloud; it is quite literally everywhere at once, as dense as the probability cloud dictates.
Still, for me, there's only one real answer:
MAN IS NOT THE MEASURE OF ALL THINGS. He only understands life at his own scale of existence. Everything else is incomprehensible to him, except through MATHEMATICS.

Even math relies on its own set of theorems. I once heard that if we decided 1+1=3 and built an entire mathematical system around that, everything would work out just as logically as it does now. But what if there’s something greater than the mind? Something the entire mind just floats within, like a concept... What if there are ways to experience reality beyond the mental mechanisms that include mathematics too?

Nancy Thompson3 said:At least they know what they don't know. The spiritualists behind this movie? They don't even have that much clarity.
One electron and two holes? Please.
Look, try it this way: imagine you're standing on a beach and there's a concrete sea wall with two holes cut through it.
When a wave hits that wall, does the water go through one hole or the other? Or does it go through both?
But how? You've got one single wave, yet somehow both holes get filled? You see the problem now?

Do you realize you can play around with questions like that forever and still come up empty? Can you actually explain to me how an electron exists as both a particle and a wave? Like, can you really wrap your head around that?
You can hide behind fancy wording and "scientific" jargon, but...
What do we actually know?
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casualtiger2 said:Look, Dana Brooks3, even if I grant you that a movie idea can grab someone's attention, I've got one other minor gripe—mostly about the actual filmmaking.
The scenes, the interviews, those computer animations... they flip by at this breakneck speed, almost like a commercial. You don't even have time to process what's happening, let alone actually sit with the good points being made—even if you actually know what the hell you're talking about.
It just leaves you with eye strain and this nagging feeling that someone—who, really?—is trying to bypass your brain and plug directly into your subconscious. Why? What's the endgame? It feels like a way to dodge any actual critical thinking.

Honestly, the worst part for me was seeing some of my good friends—people I genuinely respect as spiritual seekers—just swallow the film whole, treating it like the ultimate scientific breakdown of spirituality. Part of it is probably because they’ve all been out in India lately, tucked away from the mainstream media, so they're easily dazzled. And partly, well, because until now (and apparently including 🙂) they haven't had a clue about (quantum) physics.

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One of the most interesting and significant takeaways from the film is the idea that modern scientists don't truly grasp quantum physics. Things like an electron existing in two places at once actually happen, but the theories used to explain them are so incredibly complex that they often only make sense to the people who created them. This leads to a single reality: the deeper we look into the very essence of matter, the less we understand what matter actually is. It’s a fact. Even serious scientists, especially those deep in the weeds of quantum mechanics, are starting to admit that they don't really know what's going on at that quantum level.
Since this film was made for a general audience, I think its style makes sense for its purpose. To me, the film reflects shifts happening in the collective unconscious. It’s a sign that those old, rigid concepts that have been set in stone for centuries are finally starting to break down. Those heavy, outdated structures usually just stifle human creativity. It’s actually good that the public is being introduced to alternative perspectives on reality... if only to encourage people to question beliefs they previously took for granted.

Ronald Morris60 said:So, I’ve got this "issue" that basically forced me to start looking into all those spiritual paths and whatnot... I don't know the exact technical term for it, but I just call it "feeling people."
It’s like I can pick up on their thoughts—and along with those thoughts comes all their misery and baggage. I know everyone gets a little vibe from others sometimes, but for me, it’s constant... it happens in every single everyday conversation.
Sometimes it’s just incredibly frustrating—honestly, it makes me so pissed off when I can feel someone thinking one thing while they’re saying something completely different—that I have to fight just to stay cool.
On top of that, people end up "dumping" their suffering onto me... so I just cut the conversation short, sometimes pretty bluntly, and try to dodge anyone who seems like they're having a rough time. I hate doing that because then I feel like a total jerk, but I honestly don't know how else to handle it.
A few times now, during a totally normal chat, I’ve actually felt like I’m being "drained"... kind of like someone is sucking the life out of me through a straw (yeah, yeah, stupid metaphor, I know, but that’s the only way to describe it)... and then I just get super twitchy and have to stop myself from physically "defending" myself.
I know plenty of people deal with stuff like this—maybe not as intensely as I do, but still—so how do you protect yourself without just walking away? And please, don't give me that "just ignore it" or "mentally distance yourself" crap... I've tried all that, and it works for maybe two seconds before everything goes south again.

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That sounds like a classic case of projection. Most people deal with it by simply shutting down—closing themselves off from the here and now and obsessing over something else just so they don't have to face the people or things around them that irritate them. When I started practicing mindfulness exercises focused on staying centered in the present a few years back, the first thing I realized was how much people on the street, at work, or even at home were getting under my skin. It was way more than I ever imagined. Everything—the houses I walked past, my job, my daily routines—everything seemed to "resonate" with something inside me. It all felt incredibly tedious, repetitive, and just plain annoying. For a while, I had a hard time
staying in the present moment because every attempt to center myself triggered these painful, uncomfortable responses from my subconscious, all for the reasons I mentioned. But after practicing for a while, it finally clicked: all that pain and boredom was essentially meaningless. I realized I wasn't actually seeing those people or events; I was just reacting to my own concepts of reality rather than reality itself. Once that happened, those old concepts started to dissolve. Every time I slipped into a heavy mood, I’d get this sudden reminder that it’s all just a play between the observer and their ideas of reality, and that the two aren't actually connected. After those realizations, I changed. I stopped taking relationships and situations so seriously. Even if I briefly got caught up in my own head, I’d quickly remember how unreal it all was and snap right back out of it. As a result, I gained a certain understanding for others and a sense of inner peace.
As for you, I’d suggest focusing on the here and now. When you're talking to people—whether you like them or not—try to just observe the thoughts and emotions triggering those moments without any bias. Don't push back against them. Just let yourself feel everything, experience it neutrally, without judgment or pulling away, no matter how uncomfortable it gets. If you do that, you'll likely hit some major breakthroughs soon...

JivanMukta said:To actually undergo change, a person has to realize their true situation—where they stand, what they are, and who they really are. Only then does the genuine desire to change emerge.

It reminds me of something Gurdjieff once said about how most people aren't even remotely aware of their own circumstances. It’s like being a prisoner tossed into a death row cell without even knowing it. If a person actually realized that, all those secondary goals, little hopes, and trivial desires would vanish instantly. Their only thought would be finding a way out of that cell and avoiding the executioner...
If someone truly grasped their situation, how could they possibly think about anything other than escaping?
But instead, we’re all fast asleep, convinced we’re free, convinced we’re making things happen, hoping for a better life somewhere else, and so on...

JivanMukta said:And to finish what was started, one must let go of all teachings and all teachers, turning instead toward intuition and self-trust. Toward the Life within. Only then does the change happen... only then do you realize there was nothing to change in the first place.

There is no life inside, nor is there life outside. That division is just another illusion...

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1527/1527_01.asp

This is such a textbook example of sectarian maneuvering. You see it all the time with these Protestant versus Catholic debates. They tear one lie apart just to push another one, all while trying to weaponize guilt and fear...
It’s honestly pathetic.

mistyfox812 said:science is just another religion ☕

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Casey Jones9 said:It’s not really about providing clarity... it's more about conditioning people to accept their version of the truth.
I think some famous mathematician or philosopher once mentioned that you don't actually "learn" math... you just get used to it and adapt how you process things...

It’s similar to how certain cults push questions on their followers, but the goal is just to pull you deeper into their specific system and jargon.

Try asking your physics professor to clarify a concept and just listen closely to the response—you won't necessarily get an answer, you'll just get "explained" using a whole new set of concepts and formulas. That's exactly how cults operate... 🙂

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Scientific communities can act just like religious ones if you consider how often they rely on dogma.
Cults are a different animal entirely, and that's where the real issue lies. The danger with cults is their aggression, how they force their views on everyone else, and the way they exploit their followers.

To me, any religious group that focuses on manipulating its followers for personal gain could be called a cult. That idea of "gain" is such a broad spectrum... it can range from straight-up financial exploitation to just feeding the leader's massive ego. A lot of modern cults don't even go after your wallet anymore, but they find plenty of other ways to take advantage of people. I think there are a few core traits that define them. One big one is the constant need for followers to suck up to the leader—everything has to go exactly their way, without question. Most followers end up accepting every single word out of the leader's mouth as absolute truth, often becoming aggressive or openly hostile toward anyone who dares to have an opinion different from the "official" party line

dustyjackal9 said:Honestly, those big insurance conglomerates always play the same games. They’ll try anything to stall you. My advice? You can't just call; you have to show up in person. Find the specific person who signed your claim paperwork and talk to them face-to-face. If they give you some excuse—like they aren't in today or they're on vacation—don't take no for an answer. Ask for their supervisor immediately. If that still doesn't work, it's time to hire a lawyer. Once they get a formal letter on legal letterhead stating that they're demanding the settlement within a strict deadline or facing a lawsuit—including all legal fees and court costs being tacked onto the payout—things usually start moving pretty quickly...

Is it actually worth suing them, and how long does the process take if you can't settle things another way?

I was in a car accident about three months ago, and the guy who hit me is actually a client of State Farm. I was supposed to have my claim settled by the 16th of this month, but every single time I call their office, it’s either someone is out on vacation or they just give me the runaround saying I'll be paid "next week"... I'm wondering if these thieves pull this same stalling tactic on everyone else, and how it's even possible for this to happen in what we call a "rule of law" country?