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Do We Know Anything At All!?

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Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#1 ·
http://www.kojikuopceznamo.net/

What are your thoughts on this?
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active Member
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Daniel Chavez14 said:http://www.kojikuopceznamo.net/

What are your thoughts on this?


I suppose we could say film criticism, and honestly the entire movie industry, is just Decadent.
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#3 ·
Can someone provide an actual argument here?
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active Member
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Daniel Chavez14 said:Can someone provide an actual argument here?

Art and film critics seem to rely heavily on templates and stereotypes.
Beyond that, they’ve become rather rigid and slow to adapt. I suppose you could say the industry itself—film, design, marketing—is seeing fewer intellectuals involved, while being increasingly dominated by fools.
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#5 ·
I hear what you're saying, but I was actually looking for a specific argument tied directly to that link, rather than just a general observation.
Are you critiquing the movie itself, or are you taking aim at the people who criticized it?
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active Member
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Daniel Chavez14 said:I hear what you're saying, but I was actually looking for a specific argument tied directly to that link, rather than just a general observation.
Are you critiquing the movie itself, or are you taking aim at the people who criticized it?

I haven't seen the film.
I am criticizing festivals, the film industry as a whole, and people involved in cinema and art in general. It is all Decadent.
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#7 ·
That’s fine, but it’s not really what this thread is about.
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active Member
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Daniel Chavez14 said:That’s fine, but it’s not really what this thread is about.

How is it not? The film was rejected by festivals in Cannes and Berlin...
And people actually want to see it.
That's basically all it says there.
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#9 ·
That’s not the only way. If you click the button in the top right corner, you can find more details, including the movie synopsis.

They’re marketing this as a SPIRITUAL film, claiming it’ll be the first of its kind.
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active Member
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Daniel Chavez14 said:That’s not the only way. If you click the button in the top right corner, you can find more details, including the movie synopsis.

They’re marketing this as a SPIRITUAL film, claiming it’ll be the first of its kind.


I like the movie, at least based on the synopsis. It follows the Lynn McTaggart principle, I guess.
Still, I really ought to watch it.
Daily experience is certainly different from what we see in quantum physics regarding field scales and fundamental particles like leptons and quarks.
However, anyone who has actually studied these things knows that this underlying reality is what actually drives our perceived reality. All those spiritual New Age upgrades can be interpreted however people want, often reducing everything to something vague and murky.

When I first started writing about this, nobody seemed interested.
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#11 ·
Now we’re getting somewhere. That's much more specific. 👍
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active Member
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Daniel Chavez14 said:I thought I’d throw a little more material into the mix for us to chew on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_th...Do_We_Know!%3F
http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/what_the__do_we_know/
http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2...he_bleep_.html
http://www.einsteinyear.org/bleep
http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/bleep/

I don't want to act like a know-it-all or clog up the board, so I guess I'll just wait until things really heat up here. 🙂
Jesse Wright24 Jesse Wright24 Member
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#14 ·
It’s a decent enough film. It utilizes a docudrama style that works quite well as an entry point for those just beginning their journey into spirituality. The explanations regarding quantum physics and particle superposition are actually quite excellent. However, there are certain moments where it leans far too heavily into New Age nonsense...
rustymaker5 rustymaker5 Regular
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Jesse Wright24 said:It’s a decent enough film. It utilizes a docudrama style that works quite well as an entry point for those just beginning their journey into spirituality. The explanations regarding quantum physics and particle superposition are actually quite excellent. However, there are certain moments where it leans far too heavily into New Age nonsense...

I just can't wrap my head around why people feel the need to dismiss something as total garbage just because they don't grasp it or haven't bothered to look up the actual facts and knowledge behind it... 😕
Jesse Wright24 Jesse Wright24 Member
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rustymaker5 said:I just can't wrap my head around why people feel the need to dismiss something as total garbage just because they don't grasp it or haven't bothered to look up the actual facts and knowledge behind it... 😕

Don't hold your breath expecting an explanation from me. Obviously, those New Age types are all about butterflies and flower power...
Brandon Hall88 Brandon Hall88 Member
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#17 ·
Another sequel?
A rabbit hole???

This one is absolutely phenomenal..

It reminds me of The Secret... you really need to check it out if you get the chance. 🙂
Douglas Brown4 Douglas Brown4 Active Member
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Jesse Wright24 said:Don't hold your breath expecting an explanation from me. Obviously, those New Age types are all about butterflies and flower power...


New Age is (this progression is honestly exhausting because it highlights the hypocrisy):

a) the scent of mown shadows and a gentle breeze brushing against your nose while the blue sky above radiates peace
b) birds chirping and the sound of a light wind moving through spring light
c) your silhouette giving me goosebumps
d) passionate embraces and the smell of sweat as our lips meet
e) screams piercing the air, a fire of passion consuming us
f) tired bodies held in an embrace
g) the feeling that we exist, and that we are part of an infinite universe. United in the time and space of existence and blah, blah, blah.

And what is that? Just plain old hedonism and raw desires driven by pure biology. Nothing more than what animals have.
Jesse Wright24 Jesse Wright24 Member
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Douglas Brown4 said:New Age is (this progression is honestly exhausting because it highlights the hypocrisy):

a) the scent of mown shadows and a gentle breeze brushing against your nose while the blue sky above radiates peace
b) birds chirping and the sound of a light wind moving through spring light
c) your silhouette giving me goosebumps
d) passionate embraces and the smell of sweat as our lips meet
e) screams piercing the air, a fire of passion consuming us
f) tired bodies held in an embrace
g) the feeling that we exist, and that we are part of an infinite universe. United in the time and space of existence and blah, blah, blah.

And what is that? Just plain old hedonism and raw desires driven by pure biology. Nothing more than what animals have.

Don't be so reductive; you're only describing half of reality.
Daniel Chavez14 Daniel Chavez14 MemberOP
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#20 ·
Does anyone have a different take on what New Age actually means?
If not, I guess I’ll just have to settle for the definition provided by Douglas Brown4. 😉

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