Posts by Lisa Long

jademarlin26 said:It is possible, via the Stairway to Heaven.

Walter Carter2 said:So, I guess if that's how it works, you just have to let God honor you.👍 😁

Maria Moore4 said:Interesting topic.

But check this out. If I remember correctly from my high school physics classes back in the day, Newton was actually a pretty sickly kid growing up. And look at him now—turned out to be a total genius. There are tons of other scientists, artists, and just generally influential people who shaped the world we live in today, even though they weren't exactly "normal" (whether you're talking about physical health or mental struggles). What would the world even look like if all those people had been wiped out at birth?

Melissa Rivera5 said:Look, hate is just part of being human. I’m not out here suggesting we wipe out everyone who has undesirable traits—because, honestly, let's be real, nobody is perfect. I'm just wondering... what if we euthanized, or just didn't allow the birth of, people who will never have even a theoretical chance at contributing anything to society? If you actually care about the community, then every single member matters. But if someone is just draining resources without giving anything back, they're basically hurting the group. So, I guess their existence only makes sense from an individual standpoint, but it comes at the expense of everyone else.

Melissa Rivera5 said:It’s what they call DNA testing. If we set aside people with borderline IQs—you know, those who can actually function in society—we’re left with people who are, honestly, just total waste. Yeah, you heard me right. Absolute waste. I mean, someone with an IQ under 50 definitely isn't capable of looking after themselves or doing anything useful in any capacity. Personally, I wouldn't let that happen to me, and if there was ever even a tiny chance, I'd choose to euthanize a child like that.
I've seen plenty of situations where kids like that end up causing way more psychological issues than they're worth; maybe some people here could deal with it, but I don't think I could ever accept a child like that.
I just wanted to point out that this kind of artificial selection could easily be justified by natural selection. Honestly, the only reason so many of these people are still around today is because of modern technology. Just imagine how things were back in the day? People used to be much stronger and more resilient simply because the weak members didn't make it. I guess I'm basically suggesting a sort of mild eugenics, which I know is still a pretty controversial topic.

Dana Brooks3 said:I’ve been thinking lately... there are so many people walking around today who seem perfectly fine on the surface, physically healthy, yet they contribute absolutely nothing positive to society. Honestly, they just take up space and consume resources. They lie, steal, manipulate, hurt others... the list goes on. Don't you think forced euthanasia would be better for everyone in those cases? Let's look at this from both an individual and a collective standpoint—strictly through logic, not emotion. For the group, it would objectively be better to have fewer bad actors, whether it's due to flawed DNA or just unfortunate circumstances like how they were raised. But from the individual's perspective, is that perhaps... a crime?

In that case, I'd wipe them all out.
The damn problem is that these defects aren't easy to spot. That's why I'm proposing a psychological police force. It would consist of highly trained, highly moral individuals who monitor behavior and, based on reports, investigate specific cases to make a final decision on eliminating the blight and freeing us from the nuisance.

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Walter Carter2 said:I mean, you can actually reach God just through self-awareness. And honestly? You don't even need to put your faith in Christ—it's more about the practice. You'll find Him because He's already a part of who you are!

Patrick Sullivan3 said:You all are truly wonderful, thank you so much 🙂

Andrew Stewart2, I’ll be turning 35 soon 😘

Elizabeth Ruiz65 said:

Society is meaningless without the individual. If you extinguish the happiness of the person, you effectively strip society of its functionality.
People seem to operate under this delusion that corporations are self-sustaining ecosystems. They aren't. A corporation should exist solely to serve the individuals who actually drive its labor, or at the very least, to satisfy the greed of its owners. It isn't some sovereign entity that an individual is expected to serve—not if you value your time.

Marx argued something similar, based on his belief in dialectical materialism and the proletariat.
As the supposed drivers of change, when exactly will they realize just how massive this scale truly is?
Exploited by capitalists, yet time has shown—unfortunately—that no matter how much...
Sure, capitalism might exploit workers, but can't workers just exploit it back even harder?
Is there anything more exhausting than enduring constant exploitation?

What does "expanding into new markets" actually mean? It’s nothing more than capitalist jargon—just pouring empty air into a vacuum. Pure rhetoric. There is only one truth here: we are burning through an energy reserve that took millions of years to accumulate. We are living on credit. All these business buzzwords are just a collective exercise in self-delusion.

Expanding into new markets these days mostly just means opening up transnational corporations.
Is there anything more predictable than a massive corporation moving into developing nations just to exploit an uneducated workforce? It’s a tired pattern. They roll into these third and fourth-world countries, set up shop, and take advantage of people who haven't been given the tools to defend their own interests. Is it even surprising at this point?
Workforces are being engineered toward a state of ignorance regarding their own rights, all while...
So that any injustices inflicted upon the workforce become less obvious. It isn't happening.
I’m not exactly out here trying to justify the system; I’m just pointing out how things actually work.
Don't go getting carried away with those idealistic notions. You need to find some actual ground to stand on.
It’s about more than just flirting with the concepts of a democratic constitution.

If we run out of oil, this whole thing falls apart in a month.

Have you even heard about the natural gas they’re planning to pump through those Russian pipelines into the country?
The rest of Western Europe? They’re claiming there’s at least another 250 to 300 years of that left.
And what about the years ahead?

Expanding into new markets nowadays mostly just means opening up transnational corporations.
It feels like certain corporations just target developing nations to exploit people who haven't had access to proper education. I guess that's just how some companies operate. It seems like a pattern.
Maybe there's an intentional effort to keep the workforce from fully realizing their rights, while simultaneously...
Maybe if we make sure the injustices faced by the workforce aren't so obvious, things might actually start working. I guess it won't happen easily, though.
I'm not trying to justify the system. I'm just pointing out how things actually are.
Don't get carried away with idealistic notions. I guess we really need to find some solid ground to stand on.
It’s not just about flirting with the ideas of a democratic constitution.

I guess you haven't heard about the plans to bring natural gas in through those Russian pipelines into the country.
The rest of Western Europe, they say. And apparently, there's enough left for at least another 250 to 300 years.
What about the next few years?

N/A;7588095 said:We aren't discussing what benefits an individual here, but rather what is
beneficial for society. Since we live in a capitalist society, anything that provides
capital is definitely not useless to it.

Society makes no sense without the individual. If you destroy an individual's happiness, you effectively kill the functionality of society itself.
Many people assume corporations are self-sufficient. They aren't. They should serve the individuals who pool their labor together, or at least satisfy greedy owners. It isn't an entity that an individual serves—at least, not for very long.

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In that context, it follows that people who contribute nothing to the system would be useless to it, especially since the system has to support them through social and healthcare services, instead of focusing on expanding new markets and exploiting local resources. What does "expanding new markets" actually mean? I guess those are just capitalist buzzwords. Just empty rhetoric. Phrases used to sound profound. There is really only one truth: we are depleting energy reserves that took millions of years to accumulate. We are living on credit. All this business jargon seems like mere self-delusion to me. And it isn't just about OIL; there is also the CFA, the IMF, the World Bank, the G7... =)

Without oil, all of that would fall apart within a month.

Elizabeth Ruiz65 said:So if everything you just
listed is useless, what exactly is driving the modern capitalist machine? 😉

Melissa Rivera5 said:DISCLAIMER
This is strictly a theoretical discussion. I’m not trying to promote racism, sexism, or any of that other stuff. I'm just curious...

POINT IS
So, I was thinking, maybe Hitler wasn't totally off base. Like, looking at people living with Down syndrome today, or those with severe disabilities and terminal illnesses... they aren't really contributing anything positive to society. Honestly, they just end up draining resources that we never see a return on. Don't you think forced euthanasia might actually be better for everyone in those cases? Let's try to look at this from both an individual and a group perspective—and let's try to stay STRICTLY logical here, instead of getting all emotional. From a group standpoint, it would probably be better to have fewer "weak links" due to bad DNA, but from an individual's view, I guess it's a ? maybe significant? crime.