DzonziBG said:Not everyone, but plenty have perished... and there's no point hiding that now...
All those people dying for nothing, without any real shot at turning the tide. It’s just such a waste of young lives...
The end result of all this? Nothing. Just a river of blood, followed by some crooks sitting down to sign a piece of paper...
Hoping for some massive shift that thwarts Russ is a pretty thin hope...
This whole war is just a moronic, criminal move by both sides. That’s why nobody actually believed it would happen (except the CIA). People felt they had a point when Obama suggested Putin was cracking under pressure. Well, he popped like popcorn, but that isn't an excuse—hardly any world leader doesn't deal with pressure.
It's a massive failure on the part of his intelligence agencies; a catastrophic decision driven by head-nodding and Putin feeling backed into a corner.
Edit: There's no turning back now, and Macron is right to see the danger. He's basically the only one talking to Putin, constantly insisting we need to give him a "dignified exit" so he can claim victory. It's going to be incredibly difficult.
Honestly, I'd rather he didn't talk to him at all, especially after he directly supported my opponent and spent the beginning mocking us (the entire EU, including Macron himself).