Posts by steelwalker26

Look, people... obviously things aren't the same everywhere. Try to realize that.

NYC, hospital setting—open septorhinoplasty. That means septum realignment plus aesthetics, all under general anesthesia. You show up Monday morning at 7:00, you’re heading home Tuesday by 11:00. What else is there to do in the hospital for the rest of the week? You can walk, you can eat.

In 10 days, you can be out and about without any issues. At most, someone would only notice the swelling if they were looking incredibly closely.

Betty Edwards22 said:First, try to settle down that chronic rhinosinusitis flare-up by using an intranasal corticosteroid spray for at least a month—ideally longer—and then 2.

Betty Edwards22 said:It doesn't even matter if the patient understands everything through a forum.

The point is they need to consult their own doctor and a specialist ENT regardless.
Now, I'm honestly not sure if there's anything else in what was written that actually needs clarifying.

Fine, then explain it to me. What’s the actual point of these posts on a forum if the patient can't make sense of them? In the post above, you didn't even mention seeing a doctor.

Or are you suggesting people should just scribble these tips onto a scrap of paper and bring them to their doctor for "interpretation"?

Can you even imagine how those doctors would react?

Doctor, it’s genuinely appreciated that you want to help. Thank you. But surely you realize that when addressing people without medical degrees, you need to use more accessible language? You have to bring things down to earth. This is just one instance, but it happens constantly. I get what you're aiming at, but a middle schooler would be completely lost.

Betty Edwards22 said:Try first calming down a chronic rhinosinusitis flare-up by using an intranasal corticosteroid spray for at least a month, ideally longer, and 2.

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Do you honestly not grasp my point? If I need to spell it out for you, I can.

I was referring to the printed pre-op instruction sheet handed to me by a nurse at the oral and maxillofacial department. I assume similar instructions are handed out everywhere, drafted according to established medical protocols. My conclusion? It seems our local hospitals aren't following the same playbook. Which means Dawn Davenport’s fourth piece of advice isn't entirely off base—it just depends on which facility is performing the surgery.

And as for the mouth thing—I'm over it 😉. Some people undergoing the procedure will understand the context; others won't. There's no use making a scene. If you bring a straw, fine. If you don't, nothing catastrophic happens.

Anyway, I have a question. Did I catch you correctly when you said that at the local credit union's affiliated clinic, patients are actually allowed to eat breakfast the morning of their procedure? Are you saying they don't restrict anything there?

Betty Edwards22 said:According to the protocols they follow at Mayo Clinic—they don't hold anything back.
As for who is actually performing the surgeries and whose stats carry more weight—well, I’ll leave that judgment to the readers.

Bottom line: it isn't universal. The only possible reason would be the intubation process where the mouth is opened, but even then, that should be the exception, not the rule. Not everyone has a tiny mouth.

Dawn Davenport offered some general advice, which clearly isn't something anyone is obligated to follow blindly.

Then you claim that doesn't align with modern guidelines.

Then I mention that I had a completely different experience very recently at a major hospital in Chicago.

Then you argue that your Chicago hospital is BIGGER than my Chicago hospital.

🤣

And this business about mouths? That discomfort in the first 24 hours after surgery while your whole face is sensitive? But some people just don't have small mouths? I think we are genuinely talking past each other here. But honestly—it doesn't matter. Hopefully, everyone will just pick through the advice here and combine it with what their own doctors tell them.

Betty Edwards22 said:4. According to current medical guidelines, that’s just unnecessary.

6. You're operating on the nose—what does that have to do with the mouth?

Per the guidelines issued at KB Dubrava just a few weeks ago, you shouldn't take those specific medications for three days prior to the procedure, and nothing should be eaten or drunk from midnight onwards if the surgery is scheduled for the morning. It seems they aren't following the latest protocols 🤷

One day after the procedure, they said it's perfectly fine to take Ketoral or Ibuprofen for the pain.

The whole "mouth" issue is just a subjective patient experience—that feeling of discomfort, soreness, sensitivity, and tightness during the first day post-op. That sensation isn't the same for everyone, but if there's a way to alleviate it, why wouldn't you?

Tyler Vaughn5 said:I smoked for two years before I finally quit for a few months. I moved on to vaping, but then I felt this urge to go back to real cigarettes—only to find that they make me feel absolutely terrible. Does this mean my body will always react this way, or is it just an initial reaction while my system tries to readjust? Is it the chemicals in the cigarettes that are to blame here?

Why on earth would you want to go back to smoking real cigarettes?

If I were in your shoes, I wouldn’t bother filing those "preemptive" lawsuits. For one thing, I don't think they actually prevent anything.

The real fault lies with the mother for failing to watch her child—at an age where you shouldn't take your eyes off them for a second, regardless of the setting. That said, the other parent’s reaction—likely acting out of pure shock because they had no idea what even happened—is just as much a knee-jerk reflex as yours is.

Once the dust settles, they’ll probably realize who was actually at fault here. If they don't, and they decide to sue you, you can defend yourself easily; just make sure you document every detail and witness. I’d also photograph the scene to clarify everyone's positioning later on. Honestly, though, I doubt it'll come to that. No sane lawyer would touch a case like this.

On the flip side, it isn't too late to file a police report. It might actually be worth doing, even if you mentioned they already took statements?

A pretty nasty situation, sure, but ultimately just a hiccup. Just one thing—

Frank Walker7 said:As long as you don't have a history of being aggressive, I really think you can stay totally relaxed through both criminal and civil proceedings.
It’s especially true if your kid just snuck up behind you while you were distracted by the morning news, causing you to flinch and accidentally bump into them—you can always just tell them you got spooked by a stray dog passing by.
Plus, there’s a level of responsibility on the other parent to keep an eye on where the little one is wandering off to.

It would be incredibly difficult for anyone to actually prove you're some kind of aggressor who goes around hitting toddlers just because they're being fussy.

I actually had a similar mishap a long time ago, though thankfully nothing came of it; a toddler about two or three years old was running through a crowd near me, and when I turned around for no particular reason, I ended up slamming my head right into his knee, which honestly could have broken my nose.

Don't even go there. If we're talking about a reflex, like you described, we're talking about an involuntary physical response—a muscle twitch in a fraction of a second. There isn't any time for conscious thought or assessing threats in that window.

Is it really that hard to grasp what I just told you?

No one, absolutely nobody, knows if they’re going to become an addict when they light up that first cigarette. No one sets out with the intention of becoming a slave to a habit. Everyone walks around thinking they’ve got it under control.

And yet, CLEARLY, plenty of people end up addicted. It doesn't happen to everyone after a single pack. But for many, it does. Who can tell you for certain how it will play out for you? There isn't a crystal ball to peer into. There isn't some chemical reaction test for your brain that can predict the outcome. People AREN'T all the same. One friend of yours might stay fine, while three others spiral. So what now?

All those friends of yours who think they can manage it right now—they won't be able to later, and they have no clue they're headed for a wall.

So, what’s your take? How do you think someone actually becomes an addict?

Nicotine is a deceptive drug. NOBODY thinks they’ll end up addicted after just one pack. Every single smoker out there who now finds it impossible to quit once thought they had everything under control. They thought they were fine. And everyone starts slow.

Not everyone reacts the same way. For some, it doesn't trigger an addiction; for most, it flips the switch. No one realizes at the start that they won't be able to stop, because the addiction works by making you feel like you DON'T WANT to stop—like it's just a pleasure, or like a couple of cigarettes won't hurt.

You're throwing your health and your money away for absolutely no reason. You aren't any tougher or cooler just because you smoke; that’s just a childish mindset held by people trying to prove something. All they're really proving is how clueless they are. Fine, let them not care if they face lung cancer in twenty years—who actually thinks that far ahead when they're eighteen? But do you not care that RIGHT NOW your breath is going to stink, your teeth will turn yellow, and your skin will look gray? What about cutting off the blood flow and oxygen to every single cell in your body? Don't be stupid just because you're young.

Does anyone have a recommendation for a plastic surgeon at Mayo Clinic or Mount Sinai who specializes in aesthetic procedures?

Look, I need someone who actually gives a damn about the final look of a nose—someone who ensures it’s actually in balance with the rest of the face.