Posts by gentlemaker6

placidjackal36 said:But I’m not "in" Karr, nor is he "in" me. He’s just made of the same particles I am. I don't see why that makes anything special.

It’s almost as if it’s perfectly normal that Mercer is composed of tin-based compounds, Maddox is niobium-based, and Karr is carbon-based, and then—BINGO!—we’re special, we’re interconnected! 👋

I honestly don't get it. As individuals, we aren't defined by our constituent particles (since we all share the same ones), but by how they are arranged. And Karr has a different arrangement than mine—one where he enjoys murdering Mexicans. 🤷

If I’m eating a cookie right now, Karr isn't eating it too. We aren't connected.
You can't build global human cooperation based on the fact that we're all carbon-based, or that we all contain ribosomes. Even sand contains ribosomes. And it's made of carbon, too.

So, I really doubt this is ever going to change the world. Most people already know they are carbon-based. If they haven't learned it from a textbook, they’ve certainly learned it through the experience of a nasty burn.

placidjackal36 said:So, just because I’m made of the same energized particles as Karr, does that mean we’re somehow one entity or that there’s some profound, special connection there?

I don't see it.

Honestly, that's just crazy Gibson and a lot of red paint. The guy lost his mind but thinks he's on the "right path," so he enthusiastically drags everyone else along with him.

He's following the same rabbit hole as Tom Cruise and that Scientology madness. The whole thing just went off the rails. Too much money, too much free time, and now they're just bored and acting out.

placidjackal36 said:So, we’re all just the same species, right? Is that really where we're going with this? It feels like one of those deep, late-night philosophical debates you have when you've had one too many beers at a dive bar in Chicago, trying to make sense of why everything feels so chaotic. We share the same DNA, sure, but if you look at how people actually act, it’s hard to argue that we’re all cut from the same cloth. One guy thinks he’s an absolute genius because he can code a basic app, while someone else is out there just trying to figure out how to pay their rent in Austin. We might be biologically identical, but the way we navigate the world—the sheer randomness of our personalities and choices—makes us feel worlds apart. It’s like comparing a high-performance Tesla to a rusted-out Ford; under the hood, they both run on combustion or electricity, but the experience of driving them couldn't be more different. So, yeah, technically we're all the same kind of creature, but honestly, that's a pretty massive oversimplification.

gentlemaker6 said:I believe it is unnecessary to dwell on the current state of our world; the facts speak for themselves. Every person should be deeply concerned about what lies ahead. The most unsettling part is the lack of a visible exit strategy. To put it bluntly, if we persist on this trajectory, some madman will eventually press the wrong buttons, and it will all come to a very sudden end.

We face a choice, both as a species and as individuals: do we pivot away from this chaos, or do we continue down a path defined by deepening divisions, escalating wars, and total devastation? Regardless of which way we turn, we possess both the strength and the resources required to make it happen.

It is my conviction that this downward spiral can only be reversed through a new kind of spirituality—a fundamental shift in how we relate to God, to ourselves, and to those around us. We can achieve this by establishing a single, concise foundation for our existence:

We are all one.

It is brief, simple, and profoundly true. It suggests that God, our Creator, is not separate from His creation, but rather permeates it entirely. He is the very fabric of every atom and the smallest particle in the physical universe, simultaneously breathing His spirit and life into everything. Because of this, He resides within each of us, is each of us, and is everything surrounding us. This makes us fundamentally identical, as we are crafted from the same essence. It makes us one, because everything that exists is Him, expressed through infinite forms.

As Jesus taught, when we do unto others as we would have them do unto us, we are actually doing it to ourselves, for we are not separate from our neighbors. When we act upon ourselves, we act upon everyone else. By bringing joy to others, we bring joy to ourselves; by helping others, we help ourselves; by insulting others, we insult ourselves; by slandering others, we soil our own reputation; by belittling others, we diminish ourselves; and by loving others, we love ourselves. And by loving ourselves, we love others...

The list of opponents to this idea is exhaustive. Organized religions are first in line, followed closely by atheists. That alone covers nearly the entire human population.

Nevertheless, there are those who grasp this truth and work to spread it. There are spiritual people living this reality and leading by example. A movement is forming, a process unfolding across this planet. It is currently in its infancy, but it is backed by the power of Truth and the force of Love.

I have initiated several threads regarding religion and spirituality, all of which have been intended to lead back to this singular point. I invite everyone to participate.

Can we save our beautiful planet and transform it into a place truly worthy of habitation? Can we transcend our personal, social, and religious limitations to ignite a process of peace, unity, and genuine prosperity? What steps must we take to succeed? Are you willing to join this movement? Do you have a mission? Do you have a vision?

placidjackal36 said:And what exactly is this concept of the "oneness of all"?

coastalorca7 said:The terms "mission" and "visionary" strike me as sounding like some sort of self-appointed, high-octane catalysts—like a Savior or Spider-Man.
Either way, living with a sense of enthusiasm is always worth it.
To my mind, I save the planet by saving myself first. And I don't mean that in a purely selfish way—I don't mean blindly chasing nothing but my own interests and needs.

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gentlemaker6 said:I believe it is unnecessary to dwell on the current state of our world; the facts speak for themselves. Every person should be deeply concerned about what lies ahead. The most unsettling part is the lack of a visible exit strategy. To put it bluntly, if we persist on this trajectory, some madman will eventually press the wrong buttons, and it will all come to a very sudden end.

We face a choice, both as a species and as individuals: do we pivot away from this chaos, or do we continue down a path defined by deepening divisions, escalating wars, and total devastation? Regardless of which way we turn, we possess both the strength and the resources required to make it happen.

It is my conviction that this downward spiral can only be reversed through a new kind of spirituality—a fundamental shift in how we relate to God, to ourselves, and to those around us. We can achieve this by establishing a single, concise foundation for our existence:

We are all one.

It is brief, simple, and profoundly true. It suggests that God, our Creator, is not separate from His creation, but rather permeates it entirely. He is the very fabric of every atom and the smallest particle in the physical universe, simultaneously breathing His spirit and life into everything. Because of this, He resides within each of us, is each of us, and is everything surrounding us. This makes us fundamentally identical, as we are crafted from the same essence. It makes us one, because everything that exists is Him, expressed through infinite forms.

As Jesus taught, when we do unto others as we would have them do unto us, we are actually doing it to ourselves, for we are not separate from our neighbors. When we act upon ourselves, we act upon everyone else. By bringing joy to others, we bring joy to ourselves; by helping others, we help ourselves; by insulting others, we insult ourselves; by slandering others, we soil our own reputation; by belittling others, we diminish ourselves; and by loving others, we love ourselves. And by loving ourselves, we love others...

The list of opponents to this idea is exhaustive. Organized religions are first in line, followed closely by atheists. That alone covers nearly the entire human population.

Nevertheless, there are those who grasp this truth and work to spread it. There are spiritual people living this reality and leading by example. A movement is forming, a process unfolding across this planet. It is currently in its infancy, but it is backed by the power of Truth and the force of Love.

I have initiated several threads regarding religion and spirituality, all of which have been intended to lead back to this singular point. I invite everyone to participate.

Can we save our beautiful planet and transform it into a place truly worthy of habitation? Can we transcend our personal, social, and religious limitations to ignite a process of peace, unity, and genuine prosperity? What steps must we take to succeed? Are you willing to join this movement? Do you have a mission? Do you have a vision?

The truth is, it is possible. Let's just hope it isn't necessary. 😁

Edward Foster57 said:So everyone has to help build your vision? Give me a break...
I’d much rather things stayed the way they are—where everyone works on their own vision.

Everyone's supposed to contribute to your vision? Wow...
I'd prefer it if everyone just contributed to their own vision instead of yours.

Richard Walker79 said:You keep using "we," but let's be real: change only ever happens at the individual level.
If people want to change, they'll do it.
It's not your business.

Richard Walker79 said:I'll say it again: you are looking for blame in all the wrong places. Most people don't even have basic human rights. How can you expect an average citizen to take action when the government and the ultra-wealthy are already dictating their thoughts and actions? You're living in a total illusion.

Take it up with the billionaires and their buddies in power. They are the ones polluting and wrecking the planet. You capitalist imperialists will destroy not just the environment, but the very people who live in harmony with it, all for a tiny bit of profit.

Try reading some uncensored history books—they are the best teachers in life. Just look at how the Native Americans, the pagans, and others who lived in tune with nature ended up.

There isn't much you can do here, my friend. Save one tree, and they'll just go ahead and clear-cut the entire forest. Look at our polluted rivers, lakes, seas, and oceans!
To truly grasp these issues, you need a much deeper perspective. Right now, you simply lack that insight and wisdom.

In short, only those actually in charge have the power to be a Savior—to stop the destruction and the pollution.

casualmaker13 said:I mean, we’re all essentially one, just on this deep, invisible level that most people can't quite wrap their heads around. It makes sense why so many folks don't believe in God, or if they do, they picture some guy sitting way up in the clouds, judging us or handing out rewards. It’s this distant figure they have zero connection with—someone where you basically need a priest to act as a middleman just to handle your sins.
Most of these people just don't see the world for what it really is. I guess they aren't interested in taking the wheel and actually owning their thoughts, words, and actions. Instead, they expect someone else to step in and fix things for them, washing away their mistakes so they can go right back to making the same ones over and over again.
They don't seem to realize that we’re all building our own tomorrows. We actually have the power to change things, but only if we do it as individuals, starting with ourselves.
Honestly, they just need an awakening.
The more of us who turn inward and reconnect with the source, the more things start shifting in the right direction.
That's why it matters so much for us to wake up, work on our awareness, and finally take responsibility for how we show up. If we can focus on creating positive thoughts, emotions, and actions, we might actually build a better world—one that's actually a pretty nice place to live.🙂

placidranger said:My point is simply that, on average, humanity lives much better than before. Yes.

We agree there. But that doesn't make it irrelevant. There’s actual substance to this. Unfortunately, not good substance. Have you heard of "Problem-Reaction-Solution"? It’s intentional. That’s a different topic, but in the context of this discussion, it’s about division—about creating an "us versus them" mentality, splitting people into endless factions so there's zero social cohesion at any level.

I explained above why it’s like this. Sadly, when it comes to social relations, progress is glacial.

It's an illusion. Right now, we possess means of destruction far more terrifying than anything history has ever seen. Religious divides remain entrenched; fanatics cause deaths on a daily basis...

What I’m describing is just one snapshot of the situation. Someone will argue whether it's accurate or not—it doesn't really matter. It only serves to highlight the necessity for humanity to move toward peace, unity, prosperity, and freedom... And by that, I mean all of humanity, not just the developed parts. I have no intention of diving deeper into a full analysis. This is enough.

I believe no radical action is needed and that everything is slowly trending upward. 🤷
That's why I have nothing left to say on this; we'd just be arguing over impressions, and if we start playing with statistics, we could end up anywhere.

I'll take this as a joke. An unsuccessful one.

It worked for me; I had a laugh. 😁
By the way, why is it so hard for you to draw a comparison to Jainism?

It's perfectly clear to me that you don't see what I'm talking about. I don't blame you, but I expect you to stop being flippant.

Let me give you some direction. If we are all one, it means God isn't separate from us—that He is within us, in every single person, that every individual is divine, and that God is everything surrounding us. That carries infinite implications.

And you're enlightened—sorry, I forgot. 😁
(Do I need a disclaimer here so you don't take offense? 😁)
Thanks, but I’m not looking for a roadmap.

Religions teach us that God is some entity up in the clouds—someone who wants things from us, demands things, commands us, punishes us, or rewards us. They dangle heaven or hell, karma, or the idea that death is the end. Every faith claims to be the ultimate truth, possessing everything necessary to be superior to the rest. That's how generations have been conditioned for thousands of years. But if we accept that God resides within us rather than somewhere "up there," then it follows naturally that God doesn't demand anything from us—no commands, no threats of hell or karma, no idea that death is the final curtain. It also implies that the divine in the heavens supports the divinity within me, within you, and within all of us—that the entire creation acts as a support system. Naturally, realizing this changes every single relationship on this planet.

Maybe that makes your perspective a bit clearer.

Yeah, I get your take on equality now.

placidranger As requested:
No, in all seriousness, the statistical frequency of violent deaths is incredibly low. The average person on this planet today passes away from old age or illness, whereas only a few centuries ago, the number of people lost to warfare or interpersonal violence was significantly higher. I can certainly provide a link to the study if you’d like to see the data for yourself.

When I talk about marketing, I’m not just referring to commercials. We are talking about the systematic cultivation of fear—from the "War on Drugs" to the "War on Terror." I believe we can all agree that these narratives are often wildly exaggerated, designed solely to instill a sense of dread deep within the American psyche.

You make a fair point, though I would argue we can view this shift through a more optimistic lens as monumental progress. A few centuries ago, America was a slave-holding nation, and the world was ravaged by plagues like cholera and typhoid—back then, people were actually dying from simple infections. Education was a luxury reserved strictly for wealthy men; women couldn't even dream of stepping foot in a classroom. Life expectancy was significantly shorter, survival itself was a grueling struggle, and that’s to say nothing of the rampant violence and the frequency of lynchings and extrajudicial executions.

Quite the opposite, actually. It is leading toward peace and a better life, slowly but surely.

I’m still lost here. It sounds like you're describing one of those cults that only eats fruit during the day just to avoid accidentally snacking on a bug... Jainists? 😁

Richard Walker79 said:Don't kid yourself! The only people who can actually save the planet are the ones currently destroying it—the ones allowing it and promoting it.

Direct your energy toward those in power and the billionaires pulling the strings.

I’m doing what I can to help, but honestly, I'm more of a pagan at heart, so my efforts feel like a mere drop in the ocean.

If those in charge can decide whether I’m allowed to spit on the sidewalk, swear, or what I put into my own body, then they certainly control much bigger things, like pollution and the destruction of wildlife and our environment.

rustymaker5 said:The problem is that people have completely lost sight of Wholeness and replaced it with individualism—but I mean individualism in the worst sense of the word... we've forgotten that through our thoughts, our words, and our actions, we are actively constructing our own relative reality, yet we walk around thinking this reality is some external thing happening independently of us, as if we have no hand in it at all. It’s just this profound alienation from our true Nature, which most people aren't even aware exists...
Once we finally grasp that everything occurring—every single thing—was prompted and triggered by us, and that all events are essentially the byproduct of the combined consciousness of all people, then, and only then, do we open the door to real prosperity.
An individual can't just go out and change external events (since those things were built by all of us together, and none of us alone has grown enough in our own awareness to shift something that was collectively manufactured), so as individuals, we can only, and really we must, focus on changing our own internal experience. Only when every person works on themselves—in terms of ethics and realizing who we truly are by our very Nature—can we reach that critical mass needed for humanity as a whole to make an evolutionary leap forward...

That Wholeness is what some people describe simply: when a butterfly flaps its wings, the entire world feels the ripple effect. 🙂

placidranger said:Fair enough, you might have a point—but I suspect you've fallen for the media hype. If your diet consists of nothing but news cycles, cable TV, and various preachers, it's hard not to feel like the world is perpetually sliding into an abyss. They make sure we have plenty of reasons to be miserable and anxious.
From where I'm sitting, the only reason they scream about how bad things are is to peddle junk we don't need under the guise of "solutions." It ranges from overpriced perfumes and sodas to that "instant spirituality" marketed to suburban housewives—even that nonsense linking quantum physics to our personal desires and "secret truths."

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Can we actually save this beautiful planet and make it a place worth living in? Can we move past our personal, social, and religious limitations to trigger a movement toward peace, unity, and genuine prosperity? What steps are required for success? Are you willing to join the cause? Do you have a mission? A vision?

It feels a bit arrogant to assume we need to "save the planet." The Earth will keep spinning regardless of us—it survived much worse than a few billion parasites. If we overstep, the planet will simply shake us off and something else will take our place.
In my view, the process of building peace and unity is already underway and moving forward. For the average person on this planet, this is actually one of the most peaceful eras in history.

It feels a bit arrogant to suggest that we need to "save the planet." This world will endure regardless of our existence; it has survived far worse than a few billion parasites. If we overstep, nature will simply wipe us out and make room for whatever comes next.
I believe the process of building peace and unity is already underway and gaining momentum. In fact, this is one of the most peaceful eras in history for the average person living on this planet.

So, how exactly does this change anything? We’re all made of atoms, after all. Big fucking deal.

Eloi As requested:
--> New spirituality—can we actually save America?Š I once sat through a flight delay in Chicago that lasted longer than the actual trip to New York City. It makes one wonder if the concept of punctuality is simply an outdated luxury.T

The opening here takes an immediate and rather harsh swipe at all religions. It reminds me of a debate I once sat through in Chicago where the skepticism was just as biting.
Theology is one thing, but how people actually apply those beliefs to their lives is quite another. We're all prone to weakness.

Atheists can feel that same sense of universal connection in their own way.
An atheist can lead a perfectly dignified life without believing there is anything beyond the material world. I once knew a colleague in Chicago who lived by a strict moral code despite having zero faith, and he was more principled than most people I know.
That often isn't the case, at least according to religious doctrine.

If we had lived without religious teachings, I truly believe the state of our world today would be far more dire than it already is.

I believe the thread would benefit from a less pretentious approach. As it stands, it feels somewhat unrealistic and overly pompous.

jademarlin26 said:We don't need to save the planet; we just need to leave it alone. This climate change everyone is screaming about is a natural cycle that happens periodically—we simply need to learn how to adapt to it.

What actually needs help is the individual who fails to realize they are an extension of their environment, and that the conflicts they witness externally are merely reflections of the divisions within themselves. No talk of God, no sacred texts, no spiritual rituals, and certainly no scientific breakthroughs can force you to feel that connection in your bones. On the contrary, forcing belief systems only serves to ensure that you see nothing and you hear nothing. And that is all that matters.