Posts by ironpanther5

urbanhawk17 said:Ever since those media owners had their meeting with the Government, they haven't even touched on that question during press conferences.

Well, it's official regarding Corona, right this very second.

Elizabeth Mendoza said:I wouldn't go as far as saying the Chinese Communist Party would mess around like that and try to cover up something this massive. You're acting like Donald Trump here; the Chinese are just playing games and lying. 🤣

So, you have this TV crew from Australia traveling around with some Chinese officials, right? They decide to visit one of those crematoriums in Wuhan right when the epidemic was hitting its absolute peak. And get this—the woman on camera actually claims she’s just seeing a handful of people passing through, like maybe only eight folks died from Corona, when in reality, she was standing there cremating 128 people. It's just mind-bogglingly absurd.

Honestly, if you ask me, I’m pretty much putting all my chips on KP.

Look, at the end of the day, I'm glad they actually fixed the issue, but I'm fully convinced they were lying through their teeth about how it happened.

Just saying "the Chinese multiplying and lying" and adding a laughing emoji like it’s somehow impossible for a totalitarian regime to pull that off... honestly, only a total naive sucker would believe that.

Look, the Chinese lied through their teeth about the infection numbers and all that nonsense. But from where I'm sitting, it looks like they finally got things under control in Wuhan, and now they're just out there trying to pad their stats and score points on the global stage.

restlesssurfer97 said:How on earth could that not have happened in Korea? Without any quarantine, things just exploded and then got slammed back down. And don't even get me started on those other couple of examples where nothing even flared up because everything stayed totally under control.

You guys really need to stop acting like quarantine is some kind of permanent rule carved in stone.

ps. according to the latest health study out of China, the transmissibility of Corona is actually 2.5, not 'about ten people,' and it actually drops down to 1.5 as the temperature rises....

Do you know about patient number 31 in Korea? Well, America has a whole heap of people just like that.
The Koreans wear masks all winter and whenever they catch even a tiny cold, which makes Europeans laugh at them.

bluebison47 said:I mean, I saw this guy walking around the streets of Washington, D.C. on Sunday, and honestly... he looked like some random extra from Top Gun or something. Just wandering about. I guess he thought he was being subtle, but maybe not. 🤣

Yeah, seriously, you've got Plenković looking all sharp in a suit, while this guy stands right next to him looking like he’s about to go on a hike up Biokovo. 🤣

Honestly, it's just Krstičević and the mask doing all the heavy lifting. 🤣

Amanda Evans2 said:But look at our numbers—out of over 300 hospitalized, only 6 are on ventilators.
hospitalized.
As someone who isn't a medical professional, that doesn't strike me as a catastrophic figure, but please, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

Sure, but we have a much younger population getting infected right now. Plus, we're talking about two percent here. Just imagine if 500,000 people caught it—that would be 10,000 people needing a ventilator. And we only have about 500 to 1,000 available. I mean, obviously, they won't all need one at the exact same second, but you see my point, right? What kind of nightmare scenario would that actually be?

If I’m reading this correctly, there are only about 39 people actually stuck in a hospital bed; everyone else is just chilling at home because they feel fine.

Paul Sanders5 said:So, looking at Sweden, it seems they haven't slapped any bans on anything yet. Schools are still open, everything’s just running as usual. Honestly, we'll have to wait and see how this whole situation plays out over there.

Yeah, they’re basically following that logic where they claim the kids aren't at risk, so it's better to just let them power through it. We'll see how that works out.

Laura Chavez93 said:Wouldn't it be a more logical solution—simply put—to isolate the vulnerable population?

Honestly, the real headache here is that this virus seems specifically designed to make a huge chunk of the population dependent on ventilators just to hang on. They might survive, sure, but the massive issue is that we simply don't have enough respirators or medical staff to go around. In plain English, we’d likely see quite a few young people passing away simply because they couldn't get a timely response from the healthcare system.

They always tell you that during flu season, everyone is bumping into the virus, but some people just don't catch it because they have better immunity, they got their shots, or they're just naturally tougher—but it feels like absolutely nothing is working for us here.

Amanda Evans2 said:Look, forgive me if you disagree, but some people just think differently. They look at the big picture from every possible angle, they question everything, and they don't take anyone's word at face value.
Then there are others—actually, there are quite a few of them—who crave total state control and draconian restrictions on movement. Personally, I can't stand that. Hiding away at home and waiting for the storm to pass...
To me, freedom matters more than living like an insect trapped in a shell. For some, survival is the only priority, and they couldn't care less about liberty. As long as I make it through, that's all they care about.
All this hysteria exists because everyone is just terrified for their own skin, rather than staying home out of a genuine concern for protecting the elderly.

Look, freedom isn't just a free pass; it comes with responsibilities. It’s pretty straightforward, even if some people only seem to care about the perks. During a pandemic, anyone can be a carrier, so there's a basic expectation that you look out for the person next to you.
The US is basically the poster child for individual liberty—you can be a redneck in a local militia, a total neo-Nazi idiot, or an extreme liberal for all I care—but when New Orleans gets hit by a hurricane, the National Guard gets the green light to shoot looters.
Common sense should be enough.

Sure, the spin that people are only looking out for themselves instead of the elderly and vulnerable might have a grain of truth to it, but it feels incredibly hypocritical coming from the very people who would probably be spreading the virus themselves. I bet those types act like saints when it comes to "protecting" the vulnerable.

It reminds me of that old argument that entrepreneurs only care about their own bottom line. Well, good morning, Sherlock. They aren't pulling twelve-hour shifts just to satisfy some philosophy major; they work hard because they want to stack cash, but in doing so, they actually benefit society by creating jobs and paying taxes.
It's the same logic here: those people looking out for their own interests are, by extension, looking out for everyone else too.

Ashley Bailey6 said:The workforce isn't even at risk.

From what I can see, most people have dealt with much worse illnesses than what you'd get from Corona.

I'm talking about the average person.

The media is just hyper-focused on the catastrophe and spreading panic, as usual.
They're hunting for anyone under 80 who might be slightly unwell just to justify the current state of things.

Look, if 10% of cases are severe and 5% end up needing a ventilator, we have a problem. This virus spreads easily, the incubation period is long, and absolutely nobody has any built-in immunity to it.
If half a million people get hit all at once, that 5% translates to 25,000 people fighting over maybe 500 to 1,000 ventilators.

Just a wonderful situation we've found ourselves in.

Anthony Jackson2 said:No, we can't—that's the whole problem.

Economically, we won't last a month, but the mental breakdown will be much worse.

Even during wartime, people find ways to socialize—to lean on each other and share the depression. But if we're stuck unable to move an inch, people are going to snap like popcorn.

Think about how much easier it would have been after the earthquake yesterday if people could have just popped over to a neighbor's, or visited family to make sure everyone was okay... instead, they had to bottle it up and fight it alone. Mental health isn't some joke.

Look, you've got Skype, WhatsApp, and all these other ways to stay in touch. You can talk to any neighbor you want; the whole point is just not to spread your contacts thin among too many different groups of people.

Of course mental health isn't a joke—believe me, I've lived enough life to know that. But honestly, that specific way of thinking actually ended up causing me physical health issues, which is probably why I had to quickly move past the depression and suicidal thoughts.

Anthony Jackson2 said:And what exactly does "making sure they don't destroy us" actually mean?

Look, we can all just pretend everything is totally fine if we want to, but let’s be real—we’re basically staring down an economic disaster because every single market we trade with, and every tourist who visits us, is going to be completely paralyzed. All we'll really be doing is filling up every ventilator in the country. The real question isn't just about the numbers, though; it's whether people are actually behaving themselves right now, especially on top of this recent earthquake hitting us.

We're a small player on the global stage, so even if we had the wildest intentions, there’s nothing we can do to shift the needle economically. That’s just the way the world works.

If there's any silver lining, it's that we finally realized certain things absolutely have to stay operational here in America—things like our immunology labs, mask manufacturing, alcohol production, and stuff like that. We can't afford to let those kinds of gaps happen again.

Look, the situation is what it is. We’re basically being forced into these kinds of moves right now. There wasn't some grand, illogical reason we went into lockdown; we're just buying ourselves some time, hoping maybe something actually goes our way. We can hold out for a few months if we have to.

Dammit, our grandparents and all the generations before us survived actual catastrophes, yet here we are acting like a quarantine is the end of the world. I get it, crises leave massive scars, but you just have to learn how to carry that weight. Unlike back in 2008, we actually know that some ugly weather is coming, so we need to brace ourselves mentally. At the end of the day, the most important thing is just staying alive and healthy—both physically and mentally.
Keep one thing in mind: even if you take a massive hit economically, you'll likely still live ten times better than your grandfather did when he was young. If the tourists don't show up in 2020, they'll be here in 2021, and at least next time you'll know to save up for a rainy day. We've collectively forgotten what our ancestors always knew: save for the bad times. I realize not everyone has that luxury, but I'm certain the economy will bounce back.

You guys are smart people, and I totally get why you're overthinking and analyzing everything ahead of time, but right now we're just taking it day by day, trying to find the silver lining.

Life's never been perfect, and it's never going to be perfectly smooth either.

Our elders were ready to stand their ground against literal gunfire, while here we are, practically losing our minds because we can't go to Christmas in New York City for a bit or because we can't afford a trip to Kinder country.

For those of you with kids, you've got to hang in there just for them.

Ashley Bailey6 said:They say the drug or vaccine should be ready in about 18 months.

By then, we’ll probably see more murders and suicides among healthy people than deaths from the coronavirus among the elderly.

Oh, please. Don't even get me started. There are plenty of people out there who have realized that their "normal" life in medical circles is actually just a fancy way of calling it quarantine. 🙏

Anthony Jackson2 said:It all sounds lovely—but does anyone actually have a guarantee that this quarantine is going to pay off in the long run?

I get that they want to flatten the curve as much as possible—but how long are we looking at here? A month, two, six? And honestly, who’s actually guaranteeing we won't just see another outbreak the second these measures drop? Realistically, it only takes a couple of people in Chicago catching the virus to set the whole thing off again.

Even the WHO said yesterday that quarantine won't cut it—these kinds of measures just aren't sustainable in the long run.

I’m assuming they’re saying that because the virus could just pop up again from different hotspots. I mean, logically, a quarantine should work since the virus isn't exactly wandering down the street knocking on people's doors. The real issue is that the world is so interconnected now that even if we manage to clear things up here and finally reopen our borders, it could just show up again from somewhere else.

So, if I'm following this correctly, what we're looking at is us beating the virus only to keep the borders slammed shut until things settle down elsewhere—except for basic imports and exports. Honestly, whatever, it's probably not going to wreck our economy too badly; at least we'll still be able to play some basketball, go for walks, and live our lives without all this constant psychosis.

Matthew Young35 said:Exactly. The east side.
Everywhere else in the stands is just way too crowded.

Well, everyone has their own taste, I guess. Personally, I’d probably rather end up in Wuhan than spend a single second sitting in the west stands at Yankee Stadium... 😁

If you're looking for the one guaranteed safe zone to escape the Corona mess over the next few days—somewhere you can actually breathe some fresh air without bumping into a crowd of people—honestly, just head over to the eastern edge of Yankee Stadium.

I think it's finally time for me to call off the boycott.

wiredrider9 said:And what about all the people dying from cancer, diabetes, obesity, smoking, or even the roughly thousand people who die in car accidents across America every year? (Someone please correct me if my math is off.)

So, I'm basically expecting everyone to go on a massive shopping spree for 60 pounds of flour, 9 pounds of yeast, 20 gallons of oil, 75 pounds of bananas, a carton of eggs, and two Bic lighters. ☕

So, a buddy of mine just told me they’re completely out of flour at Walmart. 🤣
The crew is out there hauling around like they’re prepping for a month-long apocalypse, lugging about 45 pounds of pasta, rice, and canned goods. 😁

Larry Fox5 said:That sounded like you were at an AA meeting...

🤣
I haven't quite 😁

I show up to certain lectures and people just roll in with a 100-degree fever like it’s nothing, not giving a single damn about whether they pass some nasty flu on to someone else. They act like such "tough guys," as if they're too manly to care, even though spreading that kind of stuff could easily send an elderly person or someone with health issues straight to the afterlife.