redcrane22 said:I was taking Calixt, but someone I know 😁 is on Remeron
I ended up tossing that damn Calixt straight into the trash after just two days. I tried taking half a dose and I seriously couldn't even pull myself out of bed to go grab the mail. I was actually kind of looking forward to it—thinking maybe I’d finally put on some weight or something—but man, it was just way too heavy for me.
On the other hand, I see that this celebrity uses Remeron and says it works wonders for them, especially for getting some sleep. I'm not sure though, what exactly is the difference between the q-tab version and the regular Remeron? 🙈
unknown, finally some actual experience (sadly 😁)!
Do you know if it started helping that celebrity (🙂) with sleep right away, or did it take a while to kick in? Because insomnia is my main issue... It's confusing me because I managed to sleep the night before last, but last night I ended up needing Valium.
Thanks, I've already gone through all of that, but I'm more interested in hearing from people who have actually been on it or are currently taking it... It feels like there aren't many of us here talking about it.
Honestly, I’m feeling pretty discouraged right now...
So, the night before last, I took my first dose of Remeron instead of Calixt (alongside my usual 1 mg of Clonazepam) and, surprisingly enough, it was just the Remeron that actually knocked me out... it really sedated me. I felt totally groggy and wiped all day, but I just figured those were the side effects, and honestly, I was just happy to finally get some sleep.
Then I took it again last night and—nothing. I waited an hour and a half and eventually had to take some Valium. I ended up waking up after maybe five or six hours.
How does that even work? It puts me out the first night, then fails the second? And today, I don't even feel as drugged as I did yesterday; I actually managed to get out of bed relatively easily.
Does this stuff need time to build up to help with sleep, or is it supposed to hit immediately?
How long before bed are you guys actually taking it?
Please, if you're on this stuff, let me know what your experience has been like... insomnia is my biggest struggle here.
Don't just sit there struggling, go talk to your psychiatrist as soon as you can and figure out which antidepressant actually makes sense for you... My doctor mentioned that Valdoxan gets really positive feedback from other patients, and for a while, it actually worked well for me before things just went south... Maybe it'll be different for you. I was on Amyzol before, which also has that sedative effect, and even though the literature lists a ton of side effects, I didn't really deal with them personally, aside from putting on maybe five or six pounds that I eventually lost...
Jason Vaughn482 said:Yes, I've been dealing with insomnia and I'm constantly relying on Sanval to get through it. As for the aspartame, it’s simply not good for you under any circumstances—given its supposed links to cancer, I decided to switch to Calixta instead, though I only made that move after a year (once it finally clicked for me), and frankly, both drugs have the exact same sedative effect. My insomnia hasn't actually vanished; if I don't take one of these medications, sleep becomes an impossibility. As for Valdoxan, there is absolutely no way I'm willing to try it; I am incredibly cautious when it comes to pharmaceuticals. The only thing I'm unsure of is whether Calixta will help with anxiety, because personally, it didn't touch my anxiety at all.
I'm just lost, totally lost... I'm grasping at straws here...
But is your insomnia actually any better now, like has it let up at all? Could you not sleep at all without Sanval if you were only taking Calixta? Just one more question and then I'll leave you alone: how long did it take from when you started Mirzaten before you noticed your sleep was improving...
Thanks 🙂 and good luck finding the right antidepressant. 😉
Kevin Nguyen3 said:Look, when it comes to aspartame, things are just... complicated. They're contradictory, and honestly, part of it feels shrouded in mystery. There is an upper limit for intake—specifically 40 mg per kilogram of body weight. But is that actually "safe" or recommended? Does anyone truly know? No one does! The real kicker is that a huge majority of medications contain it because it’s roughly 200 times sweeter than standard sugar. It shows up in about 6,000 different products, and here in the USA, there are massive debates surrounding it—we've even seen multi-million dollar lawsuits (especially after those deaths back in '94). We are talking about what are known as "excitotoxins." They essentially kill off nerve cells in the brain. Anyway, the bottom line is this: you should avoid anything containing aspartame whenever you possibly can.☕
Yeah, I get that part, but right now, all that talk about the pills isn't even what I'm focused on...☕
Kevin Nguyen3 said:🙂 It’s better if I give you a reality check now rather than you rushing blindly into something. At least you asked, so that's fine. Mirzaten increases the transport of certain hormones in the brain, whereas Q increases the concentration of those same hormones. But, really, it doesn't matter. My apologies, I didn't catch your earlier post.😉
Of course, I forgive you...😁
I guess I'm such a total nerd about this stuff, which is why I keep asking so many questions here... I'm honestly just spiraling because I'm terrified of side effects, and mostly I just need to know if this actually helps people get their sleep back on track.
I'm still stuck in this constant loop of wanting to try it but being too scared, though staying on Valdoxan feels pointless now that my insomnia is getting worse and I'm reaching for Sanval more and more often... even then, I'm barely getting a few hours of sleep.
I was totally confused by that mention of aspartame, I thought there was some other catch to it.
Kevin Nguyen3 said:What do you mean by "I'll go pick up some"? You're just going to try it? Mirzaten Q absolutely requires a recommendation and guidance from a specialist psychiatrist. Taking medication on your own without consulting a doctor is exactly what we've been warning against for decades—no, no, and no. Have you even looked at the basic characteristics of this drug (which is new and hasn't been sufficiently studied) and its side effects? The pharmaceutical companies pumping out drugs like these are practically praying there are people like you out there—and not just you. As for aspartame, it's only dangerous in large quantities and through long-term use. What kind of fool would put it in everything if it were strictly forbidden? When Valdoxan is taken under a doctor's supervision in moderate doses, it is actually very effective. Consider this warm advice... please don't just take medications on a whim. You could end up doing far more damage to yourself with the medication than the underlying condition ever could.
I've been on it for eight months now, strictly following my doctor's orders... but honestly, it just isn't cutting it for me anymore, so we're switching things up because the insomnia has actually gotten worse...
Chris Kim7 said:Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a rush so I'm looking for some info regarding Mirzaten Q Tab (I assume that's the same as Calixta).
Basically, I've been dealing with insomnia for years now, and I've cycled through several ADs like Prozac and Amyzol... right now I'm on Valdoxan, but honestly, it doesn't feel like it's doing much anymore :-( Along with that, I take Clonazepam 1 mg, and I often find myself needing Sanvale (sometimes even twice a night), because things have just gotten so much worse lately... I've tried everything from Dormicum and Normabell to Xanax—basically the whole pharmacy cabinet—but I still end up waking up after just a few hours.
My psychiatrist suggested that if things don't improve, I should try Mirzaten Q Tab 15 mg (Calixta). What I really need to know about this AD is:
1. how soon can I expect it to actually help with the insomnia
2. what kind of side effects am I looking at (switching between ADs has always been rough for me: insomnia, restlessness, nausea, irritability, all that stuff)
3. how long do those side effects usually last
4. does it cause weight gain if I keep my diet the same?
I know everyone reacts differently, but if anyone has personal experience, I would be soooo grateful for some answers...
My doctor is on vacation right now so I can't ask her these specific questions, though she did give me a private prescription in case I decide to switch my AD...
Amy, you clearly missed what I wrote in my first post... 😉
I actually went to the pharmacy and picked it up. Everything was cleared with my psychiatrist, I just wasn't ready to swap out my AD immediately, so she wrote me a private script so I could grab it while she's away if I change my mind.
Also, just so you know, the difference between Xanax and Xanax 0.5 mg is just the pill itself: one is a standard tablet, but the 0.5 mg ones dissolve in your mouth, which means there's no extended release... at least that's what the pharmacist on duty just told me.
Thanks so much for getting back to me! I’m probably going to pick up some Prozac Q today and give it a shot... though I’m still second-guessing myself, but these insomnia issues are just getting worse and worse... Was aspartame an issue for you because it's unhealthy as an artificial sweetener, or was it something else? I mean, does it actually interfere with how that antidepressant works for sleep?
Maybe Serzone really is good, but right now it isn't doing anything for ME, which doesn't mean it won't work for you or anyone else, so don't rule it out just yet! Yeah, I had my liver tests done and everything came back fine, so there's no reason to worry about that, since if any liver issues do pop up, they clear right up once you stop taking Serzone. And Serzone can be taken alongside $33, otherwise it's 300.
For me, the anxiety is mostly tied to the insomnia, just that constant fear that I won't be able to fall asleep, and then I end up wide awake and reaching for the Lamictal and stuff...
Sorry for nitpicking, but did you deal with insomnia before starting Prozac? How long did it take for it to subside? Does the hangover effect wear off during the day?
And you didn't deal with any nausea, diarrhea, or anything like that?
Jason Vaughn482 said:I honestly find myself questioning whether these physical ailments ever truly get resolved. You mentioned treating yourself for twenty years, riding the waves of better and worse phases while remaining tethered to a pill regimen... let's be honest, these medications aren't exactly "health food" for the liver, the heart, or any other vital organ. I recently read that Sanval could potentially lead to cancer or even a stroke. My doctor tried to put me on Valdoxan, but I shut that idea down immediately when she mentioned I’d need to monitor my liver enzymes every three weeks; frankly, the fear regarding my liver health is exactly what triggered this current bout of anxiety in the first place. I took Mirzaten for a year and it did absolutely nothing for me, until I realized it contained aspartame—so I started looking for Calixta instead. Not because it fixes my anxiety, mind you, but because it helps me sleep; I take half of a 15 mg dose alongside 10 mg of Sanval and I'm out. At the end of the day, we are all essentially addicts here, varying only in our dosage, if we accept the premise that these drugs function like narcotics, as someone pointed out the other day. I've been relying on Xanax and Sanval for years now because my doctor is constantly presenting me with a revolving door of new, experimental options—first it was Lyrica, then Mirzaten, then Solian. I haven't touched any of those except for Mirzaten, which at least allowed me to sleep well without side effects, though I did put on a little weight. So, I continue my routine with Xanax—never exceeding 1.5 mg, usually hovering around 1.25 mg—and 10 mg of Sanval; that has been my steady therapy for the last four years. My diagnosis is Generalized Anxiety Disorder, but in reality, my entire existence is fueled by health anxiety and the paralyzing fear of falling ill.
How long did it take for Mirzaten to actually kick in for your sleep? And did you deal with any side effects, and if so, how long did they hang around...
Bluzara said: Regarding that Mirzaten Q tab, it’s true... it has a long-lasting effect, which might be why you feel so groggy, though it's hard to say for sure without knowing how it interacts with everything else you're taking.
I honestly can't tell if this brain fog is just the initial adjustment period or if it sticks around even after you get used to it...
That's why I'm stuck... should I start this before or after my trip? Because right now, the insomnia is driving me insane, leaving me totally exhausted, depressed, and just wiped out.
I have no clue why she put me on the extended-release version, but I assume there was a reason, especially since I've been seeing her for psychotherapy for a year now. She actually told me not to Google anything... 😂
For a while, I was actually loving the Valdoxan, but lately, I'm starting to think it was just a placebo effect, considering things were pretty chill back then. I failed my first exam, and then more later once life started getting stressful again. Klonopin hit me the day after I ran out of Xanax, which I'd already built up a tolerance to. Even in tiny doses, it knocks me out... but I think I've built a tolerance to that too, and trying to quit is just brutal. I tried, but it didn't really work. Ativan isn't doing much for me either.
Kevin Nguyen3 said:Yes, Mirzaten Q Tab and Calixta are just different names for the same thing. 15 mg is the lowest dose available.
1. Usually between 2 to 4 weeks. 2. Those are quite common side effects. When transitioning to a new AD, you're supposed to taper down the first one while gradually introducing the second. You shouldn't do it abruptly! If you do, you experience exactly what you described. Even with a gradual introduction, sometimes those same side effects pop up. But, they pass relatively quickly. 3. Side effects typically disappear within 4 weeks at most. It varies from person to person, though. Some people don't experience any side effects at all. 4. No. Weight gain is tied to your lifestyle and eating habits. It is true that certain ADs increase appetite, but if you control your diet, there shouldn't be an issue. Often, it is the depression itself that causes fluctuations in appetite—either making you crave food or losing interest entirely. Valdoxan has its own specific side effects, such as insomnia, headaches (even migraines), fatigue... You must definitely mention every single side effect to your doctor. Valdoxan helps, and the body cannot build a tolerance to this AD; meaning, there isn't a need to increase the dose just to achieve the same effect. People often take it for as long as 6 months just to ensure the depression doesn't return. Clonazepam 1 mg is essentially an anticonvulsant, but it also acts as an anxiolytic. Are you taking 2 tablets a day? Increasing your dosage of Sanval only provides a short-term effect, and sometimes it doesn't work at all. It falls under the category of so-called hypnotics, and treatment with it shouldn't last longer than a month maximum (even shorter, maybe just 2 weeks) After that, there is no further benefit. Sanval does have some side effects, which are more common in women. The things you mentioned in parentheses are completely different medications, and they require time to work. Calixta generally enhances the effect of certain anxiolytics, so in relation to that, sleep might be longer and "more peaceful." But, ultimately, the doctor is the one who advises on what the smartest course of action is.
No, just one before bed (1 mg). Honestly, I'm not even sure how much it's actually helping anymore... been on it for about 3 or 4 years now.
P.S. My psychiatrist is out on vacation right now, so I can't run all these questions by her—though she did leave me a private prescription just in case I end up switching my AD... I don't usually hang out on forums like this, so thanks to everyone for the help! :-)
I'm feeling a bit stressed because I'm heading to the coast in less than two weeks, and I really don't want to lug a bunch of side effects around with me, so I'm torn on whether to start now or just wait until I get back from vacation. I know my way around most of these meds, but I've never even heard of Mirzaten Q Tab before, so I'm a little thrown by this... I deal with anxiety and depression, though the depression is mostly reactive—if I actually get enough sleep, things are pretty much fine, but when insomnia wipes me out, I end up exhausted, drained, my immune system tanks, and all that... The best way to describe what I'm going through is a fear of insomnia :-( By the time morning rolls around, I'm already dreading whether I'll be able to drift off tonight.
I just read somewhere that Mirzaten Q Tab is different from Mirzaten because it's extended-release and might not be as effective at knocking you out, plus it could leave you feeling groggy during the day. I have no idea how accurate that is...
Does it work well for your sleep? Did you struggle with insomnia before this? And is there any chance this one could let me ditch everything else, like the Clonazepam 1 mg, Sanval, and stuff, since I've been relying on those for heavy sedation?
Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a rush so I'm looking for some info regarding Mirzaten Q Tab (I assume that's the same as Calixta).
Basically, I've been dealing with insomnia for years now, and I've cycled through several ADs like Prozac and Amyzol... right now I'm on Valdoxan, but honestly, it doesn't feel like it's doing much anymore :-( Along with that, I take Clonazepam 1 mg, and I often find myself needing Sanvale (sometimes even twice a night), because things have just gotten so much worse lately... I've tried everything from Dormicum and Normabell to Xanax—basically the whole pharmacy cabinet—but I still end up waking up after just a few hours.
My psychiatrist suggested that if things don't improve, I should try Mirzaten Q Tab 15 mg (Calixta). What I really need to know about this AD is:
1. how soon can I expect it to actually help with the insomnia
2. what kind of side effects am I looking at (switching between ADs has always been rough for me: insomnia, restlessness, nausea, irritability, all that stuff)
3. how long do those side effects usually last
4. does it cause weight gain if I keep my diet the same?
I know everyone reacts differently, but if anyone has personal experience, I would be soooo grateful for some answers...
My doctor is on vacation right now so I can't ask her these specific questions, though she did give me a private prescription in case I decide to switch my AD...
My mom just had a needle aspiration on a lump in her left breast, and I was hoping someone could help me make sense of the results before she goes in for a biopsy. Is there anything in this report that points toward it being malignant?
The aspirate smears show suspicious cells from glandular epithelium with degenerative changes, along with clusters and traces of stromal fat cells, plus plenty of eosinophils, lymphocytes, and lipid droplets. A biopsy is recommended...
Chris Kim7 said:Thanks for getting back to me! I guess I'll just wait... If anyone else out there is dealing with a wrecked immune system or went through this exact same battery of tests, please reach out. One of my biggest issues is this lingering low-grade fever—around 99 degrees—that just won't quit even after the illness seems to have passed... Let me know if anything actually worked for you. Seriously, speak up, because most doctors here in the States just shrug their shoulders when they don't have a real answer, offering nothing but "drink more tea" or "have some honey and lemon"...
P.S. This might help someone else—I asked a biochemist about this, and they said it's best to run these specific tests about four weeks after finishing any antibiotics! Wishing everyone a happy and healthy New Year!🙂
melloworca6 said:Regarding immunoglobulins (IgE, IgG...), I don't think antibiotics make much of a difference, but they definitely mess with ASTO (antistreptolysin O) titers, so she should probably wait at least two weeks after finishing the antibiotics before getting that checked.
Thanks for the info! I guess I'll just wait then... If anyone else here has dealt with a weakened immune system or run these same tests, please reach out. One of the most annoying things is this lingering low-grade fever (around 99.5–99.7°F) that just won't quit even after the illness seems to pass... Let me know if you found anything that actually worked. Seriously, speak up, because most doctors just shrug their shoulders when they don't have a real answer, other than the usual "drink more tea, lemon, and honey" nonsense...
Hey everyone. Every single fall and winter my immune system just falls apart... I catch every bug going around, and even a basic cold turns into something serious that takes forever to shake off. I’ve tried basically every supplement under the sun to boost it, but nothing actually works. To make matters worse, I’ve been on so many antibiotics lately that my body seems to have built up a resistance and they barely touch anything anymore... Anyway, I found a private clinic that does immunological testing (IgA, IgG, IgM, IgE, antistreptolysin titer). I decided to pay out of pocket because I am completely done dealing with the hospital system and they won't even give me a referral...I just finished a round of antibiotics, so I was wondering how much time needs to pass after finishing them before I can get these tests done so the results are actually accurate? I mean, do antibiotics even mess with these specific levels? Please help! The staff at the clinic seemed pretty unsure about this, so if there's anyone here with actual expertise who can weigh in, I'd really appreciate it... Thanks in advance!🙏