Posts by frozenpuma69

Lisa Thomas3 said:You weren't just talking about the Democratic Party; you were talking about parties across Europe in general, and their only common thread is anti-immigration policy. Go ahead, feel free to explain what you meant by "Extremists might be rising in normal countries"—who exactly are these rising extremists, and why are they considered extremists?
I don't see an increase in extremism anywhere; I just see an increase in anti-immigration parties throughout Europe (or more accurately, parties advocating for border control and immigration management).

Fine, glad we could agree that this "ceiling" is purely your own invention and hasn't actually been proven anywhere in practice yet.
As far as I'm concerned, there is no such thing as a "ceiling." Anti-immigration parties are effectively in power in half of Europe, and in the other half, they've become major second or third players that drastically shape national policy.
Moving forward, those other countries will either reach a compromise on immigration—meaning actual border control—or they'll keep ignoring the issue until these parties inevitably take power...

I mean, obviously it hasn't been proven. I guess how would you even go about proving something like that? 🍿

And yeah, I wasn't just focusing on the Democratic Party; I was talking about all the parties in that vein, like the Alt-Right or various nationalist movements. Those groups are extremist in every sense of the word, not just when it comes to immigration policy.

Lisa Thomas3 said:It’s interesting how this media narrative works—convincing regular people that anyone who doesn't support unchecked immigration is an "extremist." If you can explain it in just a few simple sentences, why is border control considered extremism?

Secondly, can you give me even one example of a Western nation where anti-immigration parties (your so-called "extremists") haven't seen growth in two consecutive elections? That would actually prove there's some kind of ceiling. Four years ago, the Democratic Party was at 12%; now they're already at 18%. If this insanity continues, they'll hit 25% within four years. And it's funny how there are fewer and fewer "stable" countries left in the West. Not too long ago, you probably would have called Austria and Denmark orderly, normal countries. Today, they're just as messy as Italy, Canada, and Poland—basically half of the continent. Even in your "normal" countries, the anti-immigration parties are now among the most significant political forces, whereas ten or twenty years ago, they didn't even exist. It's amazing how fast the definition of "normal" shifts...😍

And your little spin is pretty interesting too, I guess. You seem to know exactly why they're being called extremists—just because they want to manage migration.
You're conveniently ignoring the whole long history of racist and nationalist incidents tied to this party, not to mention all those connections to neo-Nazism.

Lisa Thomas3 said:It’s interesting how this media narrative works—convincing regular people that anyone who doesn't support unchecked immigration is an "extremist." If you can explain it in just a few simple sentences, why is border control considered extremism?

Secondly, can you give me even one example of a Western nation where anti-immigration parties (your so-called "extremists") haven't seen growth in two consecutive elections? That would actually prove there's some kind of ceiling. Four years ago, the Democratic Party was at 12%; now they're already at 18%. If this insanity continues, they'll hit 25% within four years. And it's funny how there are fewer and fewer "stable" countries left in the West. Not too long ago, you probably would have called Austria and Denmark orderly, normal countries. Today, they're just as messy as Italy, Canada, and Poland—basically half of the continent. Even in your "normal" countries, the anti-immigration parties are now among the most significant political forces, whereas ten or twenty years ago, they didn't even exist. It's amazing how fast the definition of "normal" shifts...😍

Just because they might have a ceiling doesn't mean they've actually hit it yet. When they eventually do, we'll see, but in most stable countries, that ceiling usually isn't high enough to let them be anything more than a junior coalition partner.

Timothy Nelson5 said:Actually, it’s worse than that.
It wasn't just that they wouldn't admit their choice in a poll— they didn't even have the guts to actually vote!
Just a bunch of spineless cowards, I guess.

And don't try to twist my words.
I was just relaying what the poll showed.
The reason I wasn't making any predictions is because the Swedes have already proven themselves to be pretty pathetic weaklings.

Extremists might be on the rise in stable countries, but there's always a clear line they can't cross.
As long as the mainstream conservatives and Democrats act like François Fillon or Angela Merkel,

Which extremists are we talking about?
The ones who actually love their country and want to preserve their culture?
Because if you think Merkel and Fillon are examples of people doing that... well, 🤣that's something.

I'm obviously not counting places like Italy or Greece, where you can barely find a functional political party.

Yeah, right. Imagine that.
Politicians and parties who actually care about the people electing them and the interests of those citizens more than some globalist agenda or the influx of migrants tied to it.

🤣
Maybe that 17% just got swallowed by the void. Or wait, we aren't even talking about Russia here.

Timothy Nelson5 said:Actually, it’s worse than that.
It wasn't just that they wouldn't admit their choice in a poll— they didn't even have the guts to actually vote!
Just a bunch of spineless cowards, I guess.

And don't try to twist my words.
I was just relaying what the poll showed.
The reason I wasn't making any predictions is because the Swedes have already proven themselves to be pretty pathetic weaklings.

Extremists might be on the rise in stable countries, but there's always a clear line they can't cross.
As long as the mainstream conservatives and Democrats act like François Fillon or Angela Merkel,

Which extremists are we talking about?
The ones who actually love their country and want to preserve their culture?
Because if you think Merkel and Fillon are examples of people doing that... well, 🤣that's something.

I'm obviously not counting places like Italy or Greece, where you can barely find a functional political party.

Yeah, right. Imagine that.
Politicians and parties who actually care about the people electing them and the interests of those citizens more than some globalist agenda or the influx of migrants tied to it.

You don't judge things by how much noise people make, but by where they've actually led their country.
And now go ahead and try to tell me that a Greek person is doing better than a Swede or a German. ☕

Timothy Nelson5 said:True enough.
I guess the people in Sweden basically voted for their own downfall this time around. If the Social Democrats had managed to pull in somewhere between 25 and 30%, they would have become that indispensable force needed to actually shift policy.
You see citizens in various authoritarian regimes fighting back against tyranny, risking everything just to get a taste of freedom. Meanwhile, these complacent Swedes just sit there, watching calmly as their liberties are stripped away right under their noses.
Things might change once the economy starts heading south, but by then, I suppose it’ll be too little, too late.
Sweden is a lost cause.
Fine.
It’ll serve as a cautionary tale for everyone else.

Instead of trying to play prophet, you might find it more dignified to just sprinkle some ash on yourself, especially since you were just claiming the other day that Social Democratic voters are too scared to even admit who they voted for.

Who exactly is rising up against tyranny here? 😁
The exact same thing is playing out in the Netherlands, France, and Germany.
Sure, extremists might be gaining ground in decent countries, but they usually hit a wall they can't cross.
As long as the bulk of the conservatives and centrists keep acting like François Fillon or Angela Merkel rather than Sebastian Kurz, parties like the Social Democratic Party aren't going to see any real power.
And I guess we shouldn't even count places like Italy or Greece, where finding a functioning political party is a struggle in itself.

So, I wonder what all those people are saying now—you know, the ones who were so convinced there was some kind of "Moderate Republican" factor influencing the Democratic Party voters? 🙏
It turns out everything they thought was totally backwards, because the polls pretty much completely missed the mark on Democrats, even when you account for the Social Democrats and Moderates. ☕

Lisa Thomas3 said:After hitting the 50% mark

S: 28.1%
M: 19.3%
SD: 17.9%
C: 8.8%
V: 8.1%
KD: 6.4%
L: 5.4%
MP: 4.4%

Well, isn't that just lovely.
I guess if the liberals somehow manage to overtake the Christian Democrats, then everything will be perfectly fine and balanced, right?
I mean, I suppose it's great that both of them—along with the centrists—have managed to pull ahead of the MAGA crowd.
And honestly, maybe it’s also a good thing that Ulf Kristersson is still holding his own against the SD.

So, looking at the polls, it seems like neither the Alliance nor Lovfen and their buddies will actually pull enough seats together to grab a majority, right?
What are the odds that someone from the Alliance (though the Centrists seem like the most logical move here, I guess) might jump ship over to Lovfen? It feels like everyone fleeing in the opposite direction is probably less likely than that, maybe.
Or is it more probable that they’ll all just band together to form some massive grand coalition to block the SD? If that actually happens, I suppose we'd be looking at the largest parliamentary majority in all of Europe.

Louise Fletcher One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest winning Best Actress... honestly, that remains one of life's greatest mysteries to me.

Susan Price30 said:I mean, just ignore him... because it seems like there isn't any God he can appeal to who would actually make sense to this user, if an explanation could even be accepted at this point. And honestly, it looks like he doesn't even bother reading other people's posts during a debate, or trying to look at the whole context; he just fixates on one tiny point and ignores the tone of the conversation or the subforum entirely, I guess.

Plus, if I'm reading these threads correctly, he’s already reached out to some other super-mod via DM about the exact same thing he’s been whining about here for days.

It's unheard of... and honestly, I'd say it's pretty extreme. A bit scary, really.

And we shouldn't forget his original angle— by pretending to criticize hooligans at the FIFA World Cup 2014 match against the Czech Republic, he's basically just picking fights with other users across different threads. He's essentially confronting them, you know? And he does it constantly.

As for a permanent or partial ban, maybe? I don't know... I'm not really the one making those calls, but if the other users need it, then I suppose they do.

And it's not just your post. Like I thought—it seems like he just misses all those subtle nuances in communication during discussions that are, you know, perfectly obvious to everyone else.

Yeah, I see it.
Even after I tried explaining things to him, he just keeps doing his own thing.
Nothing to be done, I guess; just let him have his fun.☕

Joseph Stewart38 said:Topic: everyone who hates the mob
Time: today 2:26 PM

Comparing a "mob justice against hooligans" situation to Misappropriation, a convicted murderer and rapist
Status: unconvicted

The only person who would actually try to frame this within the context of Misappropriation is, well, a total psychopath or someone who’s just genuinely sick in the head, if you ask me.

But hey, of course not, I'm probably just making all of this up in my own head.

I'm lying, right?

Anyway, moving on...

So, you basically just called me a psychopath and a sicko.
That’s actually a violation of the rules, and honestly, it's against US law too.

1. You're unconsciously doing the exact thing you're accusing everyone else of in this thread. You're basically endorsing and shielding violence—specifically when people are threatening those hooligans with the worst kind of physical harm.

2. I never once encouraged anyone to cause trouble, so you just cherry-picked a post that had nothing to do with that just to try and prove to the moderator that someone else was inciting chaos.🙏

3. You completely missed the point of what I wrote. I wasn't comparing this mobbing to what Misappropriation did. Maybe try reading my post again, and you might actually get what I was trying to say.