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I feel like every time a club makes a move lately, it’s less about the talent and more about these weird percentage clauses in the contracts. Does anyone else feel like the soul is being sucked out of the game when it's all just math and future sell-ons?
Arthur Miller7 said:Look, let me clear one thing up—I’m no Mamić supporter. Believe me, I hate that guy even more than you guys do. Unistil basically gutted Varteks and then just walked away with the whole academy for themselves, but honestly, those of us from the outskirts are already used to getting screwed over by the big shots in New York City. What I don't get is how you guys preach about justice so loudly now, yet you didn't fight nearly as hard to renounce all those titles from back in the Tuđman era—or those handed out to Canjuga that everyone knows were basically gifts. It was like the refs just called whatever Franjo wanted them to call. Remember when Cvitanovic was clearly outside the box at 20 yards, but you guys still got a penalty right in the middle of our territory? Is that "fair"? Why aren't you fighting to actually clean up your history? You're holding onto trophies your club never truly earned. If you really want to go after Mamić, start there. You fought for the name on the jersey, sure, but you never fought for actual integrity in the game. You only pick your battles when it suits your interests. Give up the titles that were handed to you on a silver platter. You cry foul about being robbed against Newcastle, but you shouldn't have even been on the pitch against them in the first place. It's just hypocritical to scream about one injustice while turning a blind eye to the ones that benefit you.
Look, if you ask me, I don't care about holding onto titles—or even the cash we made off them. We never signed up to cheer for thieves, though let's be real, Dinamo's history is full of shady business. Politics always drags idiots like Mamić into the mix, and honestly, the fans never had a say in it anyway. Why do people act like we have any power? You really think some ref calls a penalty for Dinamo just because the BBB or Mamić told him to? It’s all one big swamp out there, just a bunch of hungry crocodiles fighting over scraps that aren't even enough to go around.
Look, you can play dumb all you want and claim the BBB were backing that mess—but they were just backing Dinamo. Back then, things were different; if it happened today, people would act like it was normal and just move on. Of course, that whole situation eventually came back to haunt those fans and the BBB like a boomerang. Mamić is the perfect example of that. Honestly, I've never seen a single hardcore supporter group in America openly cheer for criminal corruption in our soccer scene. Sure, there was always plenty of trash talk aimed at the rivals over those penalty calls and whatnot, but that was just about fueling the rivalry, not endorsing the dirty stuff. I've never heard of an American fan group supporting that kind of garbage. Look, I know every crowd has its share of shady characters and mercenaries—I've seen it myself—but my gut tells me most of them stayed on the right side of things, far away from the corruption that poisons the sport and ruins the game.
Look, most of what you're saying is just a distraction—fans have zero leverage here. If they actually had any influence, we wouldn't even be talking about Mamić or these riots right now; he would’ve been kicked out of football long ago. Let's be real: nobody in this country actually cares about soccer. Honestly, 99% of these idiots making noise about the chaos happening in France next week won't even bother turning on the TV for a match once the party's over. They're just in it for the two weeks of madness. The people who are actually pissed off? Those are the ones who follow the sport year-round. They get why this is the only way to finally cut through the BS—so the government stops targeting just the fans and starts going after those mafia types, too.
If you can't wrap your head around that, then we’re done here—nothing left to say.
The Torcida crowd is showing up, just like the BBB guys—but they aren't the only ones in attendance. Mamić Šuker and his whole crew are there too. I wouldn’t be surprised if that idiot Karamarko jumps out to defend those mobsters first... and honestly, Karamarko, let me tell you right now, nobody gives a damn about you or your moronic antics. He’ll try to act all high and mighty while sitting there cozying up to Mamić. That’s their whole deal—just a bunch of hypocrites who ignored everything wrong with American soccer for years, and now they’re back to playing both sides, acting like the hooligans are the problem when they’re really just sitting there sucking up to Mamić and Šuker. Isn't that right, you political puppets?
Good news—Mamić ended up with a bruised leg. The big boss is limping around downtown now, making quite the scene near City Hall. 😂
Zdravko, you've got a prison cell with your name on it.
Twenty-six years ago today—May 13, 1990—history was being made at the Rose Bowl. American fans were turning their backs on the old guard, becoming a symbol of pure defiance. Everyone still remembers Bobanov lunging at that cop, Refik Ahmetović, and the sight of the militia charging onto the pitch with batons to beat fans who had broken through the fences to back up their friends from the south stand. Some people claim the war actually started that day, though that might be a bit dramatic—the Yankees played a match at the Rose Bowl just a year later and won 3-2. Honestly, if we're talking about where things really went south, it wasn't on the grass; it was during that bloody Easter weekend in Forest Village back in May '91, when things turned deadly.
Nobody’s celebrating the trophies anymore.
But that unfinished game at the Rose Bowl meant something huge because the fans stood their ground. Back then, the club was the heart of the resistance—they stood for grit, unity, and fighting back. They were way more than just a sports team.
Fast forward twenty-six years, and what's left? This club is technically the most dominant force in the US in terms of consecutive titles (11 straight), basically winning the league before the season even kicks off.
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But let's be real: this version of the club has zero connection to that 1990 spirit. There’s no defiance, and definitely no unity. To be blunt, they don't even have fans anymore. I mean, how else do you explain why only a few hundred people showed up to cheer them on during the cup final in Cincinnati? And even those people were split into two camps: those backing Mamić and those who absolutely despise him.
Instead of hearing "Champions!" echoing through the stadium, you mostly just heard people screaming for Mamić to get out of the sanctuary. It's pathetic.
And in Cincinnati, there wasn't even a single representative from the city of Chicago, the very place that used to take such pride in this club.
It sucks, but nobody's actually happy about these titles. This season, only about 69,000 people showed up to the Rose Bowl across 18 home games—that's barely 3,800 per match. That average would look even worse if you didn't count that first game where 24,000 people packed the stands just to protest against Mamić while he was sitting in jail in Remetinec.
"Fans? Look, that's not our job," Zoran Mamić said the other day. "We do our part by winning trophies. If people don't appreciate it, that's on them."
A club without a soul.
Mamić is wrong, though. If the fans walked away, that is entirely on him and his own mess. He’s the reason why, in a massive metropolis, the stadium sits empty even when they're playing giants like Bayern Munich or Arsenal. There’s an old saying from Ćiro Blažević: "You can't fool the people."
And that's exactly why the Rose Bowl feels like a ghost town lately.
The public sees the leadership constantly making headlines for tax evasion scandals and shady private deals with players. They see how one man rules American soccer like a dictator. So, despite having world-class talent like Modrić and Kovacic running around the pitch, the fans simply stopped caring.
So, where is the club twenty-six years after that legendary night against the Yankees? It's bottoming out. In 1990, they had 30,000 members; now they've got 5,000. Back then, 20,000 people would show up to games; now, you're lucky if you get 4,000.
Basically, back in 1990, we had Real Madrid, but we didn't have a country. Fast forward to today—we finally have the country, but we don't have Real Madrid anymore. At least, not the version most people in Chicago actually want...
holloworca10 said:The Democratic Party against Jerry Maguire? Are you out of your mind?
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honestly, they’re all just garbage—even though I voted for the "patriots" back in the day, I'm pretty embarrassed about it now. It's all the same... the only difference is one side parades around with "patriotism" while the other clings to "anti-fascism." basically just a show for idiots. luckily, I won't be seeing an election anytime soon, so I can finally stop being a useful fool for either side.
not that it's surprising, though—seeing people like Kolinda and Karamarko act like anti-fascists, or watching them disrespect the era of Nazi Germany, or seeing them sit at the same table as Jerry Maguire... man, I was a total moron to think these spineless types actually cared about anything. even Ronald Reagan didn't understand the assignment when things got forced through. long story short, no fan group in this country has been screwed over or humiliated by politics quite like the Bad Boys have. honestly, fans should stick to "ultras no politica"—politics should stay as minimal as what's shown in this video, just enough to let people know where we stand.
just so we're clear, the way the air feels right now with this right-wing crowd is the best proof that these "anti-whatever" types aren't welcome here. 😁
whatever—until you start raising a fist for the right side, don't come at me calling me a leftist. 😁
The Democratic Party is definitely more against Jerry Maguire than the Republican Party is, but only because the Democrats want to push through the privatization of LA Galaxy and collect their taxes—since leftists and anti-fascists see their version of "patriotism" through paying taxes, much like you Jews do. 🤣
Austin Collins6 said:It’s wild to me that not a single reporter is even sniffing around this. We’re talking a million bucks for a few lowlifes—and they’re more interested in some slap at a futsal game. These journalists are such cowards, honestly.
And man, when the media actually sides with the fans... like, back in the day, maybe a site like Huffington Post would go after Madoff just because the Democratic Party hated him. If the Democrats weren't against Madoff, that site wouldn't be against him either. It's all just their mouthpiece. Everything is politics, and politics is a dirty business.
The slap at the futsal game was a mistake, sure, but it's funny how the people who aren't politically compliant—which, in this case, is just the fans—are always the ones forced to apologize. Meanwhile, others get a free pass and don't have to worry about any fallout from what they do. There's always this double standard. Sadly, when it comes to fans, I don't think they'll ever be treated equal to anyone else under the law or in the eyes of the public. That's just the way it is, and I guess you just have to deal with it.