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Which PSU should I buy? in Desktops ·
electricdriver33 said:A little more expensive? It is 100% pricier than the Seasonic unit most people would actually choose. 😂
Seasonic is the gold standard when it comes to power supplies. 👍

That’s all in the past,😁 and we have to deal with the reality of what's on the shelves today, so you can either accept things as they are or complain about the specifics of those "cheap B12 BC series" units. Look, power supplies get tested, which means you know exactly what you're getting, so you can just pass on them if they don't meet your standards. There's no point in making broad generalizations; you really have to dig into the detailed reviews to see who is actually manufacturing a specific unit and what kind of internal components they decided to cram inside.

It honestly gives me a headache seeing the quality of capacitors they use on the voltage regulation sections of average televisions. That is exactly why TVs tend to die off so quickly, often right after the warranty expires. But that is a completely different type of hardware, so let's get back to the Seasonic B12 BC series. When you look closely at that first link and the data provided, the quality of the capacitors used in the Seasonic B12 BC series is enough to make anyone's head ache.☕

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...01,4193-5.html

Seasonic BC12 BC 550W

- Uses an Ltec main capacitor, which sits somewhere in the fourth tier of quality rankings.

- Features Asia-X and Cheng x capacitors, which are likely just some Chinese brands that aren't even listed, leaving you to guess where they fall on the quality scale.

Chieftronic PowerPlay series

- Utilizes Japanese Nippon Chemi-Con and Nichicon capacitors, which belong to the top tier of quality.
PC Upgrade Advice Needed in Hardware ·
Jeffrey Cook82 said:Whatever happens, happens.

That’s possible.
Where on earth would I get the idea that I should be spending someone else's money instead of my own?

Don't be shy about it; go ahead and make a recommendation, you can even drop a link if you want.

If you haven't pulled the trigger on a power supply yet,😁 you might want to take a look at what I wrote or suggested over in the dedicated PSU thread. It’s generally better to keep recommendations in their proper place, which is why we bother having specific threads for different topics in the first place.🍿
Which PSU should I buy? in Desktops ·
Jeffrey Cook82 said:I've settled on this combination:

Power Supplies

RAM.Just the same ones I already have.

If you’re looking into SSDs, you really need to consider how they integrate into your overall build rather than just looking at raw speeds on a spec sheet. Most people get caught up in the marketing hype surrounding sequential read/write numbers, but in a real-world US computing environment, the random access speeds and the reliability of the controller are what actually dictate whether your system feels snappy or sluggish during daily tasks. It’s easy to grab a cheap drive from Amazon and assume it’ll do the job, but if you aren't paying attention to the NAND type or the endurance ratings, you might find yourself replacing that drive much sooner than you anticipated.

Graphics card.

Don't go picking up that standard Seasonic power supply.😁 To be perfectly clear, the Seasonic b12 BC series isn't actually manufactured by Seasonic.That is significantly overpriced. $187 When you’re picking out a standard power supply with fixed cables, the five-year warranty isn't the deciding factor. You aren't shopping for a TV here; you're buying a component where the actual quality of the internal parts—specifically the capacitors and similar hardware—is what truly matters. Everything else can be benchmarked and tested, so you'll eventually figure out if a manufacturer actually built a solid unit or just padded the specs to look better than they are. While a longer warranty is always a nice perk, it certainly isn't the most important thing. It's easy to get distracted by a lengthy guarantee, especially when you know deep down that the unit is packed with mediocre or budget-tier capacitors. A power supply like that simply won't last, and once that warranty expires, you'll realize it wasn't built for anyone planning to use their rig for the long haul.

I went through the technical teardown of the Chieftec PowerPlay Gold, and honestly, there isn't much left to say beyond what the data already shows. It’s one of those units that looks decent on paper, but once you get under the hood, you start seeing the actual trade-offs being made to hit that price point. Looking at the internal layout, the build quality is fine for a budget-oriented unit, though nothing about it screams premium engineering. They've used a mix of components that seem adequate for the intended load, but if you're looking for top-tier longevity, this isn't exactly a high-end enthusiast part. You see some standard stuff like Nichicon capacitors, which is a small win, but the overall assembly feels very much like a mass-produced product designed to satisfy the basic requirements of a mid-range PC. When it comes to the actual performance, the DC output quality is remarkably stable under moderate loads. If you're running a standard setup—maybe something with a GTX 1050/1060 or even a slightly beefier card like an RX580—it handles the ripple well enough that you won't be losing sleep over it. However, as you push closer to the rated capacity, the efficiency starts to dip more noticeably than you'd want from a "Gold" rated unit. It's a functional, middle-of-the-road power supply. It isn't going to win any awards for innovation, nor is it going to fail you in a standard office build or a light gaming rig. It does exactly what it says on the box, provided you don't try to overstress it. If you need something reliable for a basic system, it works, but if you have the extra cash, you might find better value elsewhere in the market.

If you're looking to pick up a 650W power supply, you really need to be intentional about what you're putting in your rig. There isn't much point in cutting corners here because everything else depends on this component staying stable. If you want something reliable that won't leave you hanging, I'd suggest looking at a Seasonic unit or perhaps a high-quality Corsair model if you can find one within reason. Just make sure whatever you settle on actually delivers the continuous power you need without breaking a sweat under load.😁 Given everything we've discussed and all the specific details on the table, the only recommendation that actually makes sense right now is to go with the... Looking at the Chieftec PowerPlay Gold series, specifically the 550W, 650W, and 750W models, there isn't much room for ambiguity when you evaluate their performance.The 650W model is currently sitting at its current price point. $167 It’s a steal for cash, especially when you consider the specs and how they actually hold up under testing. Availability is pretty thin, though, and honestly, only PCPartPicker seems to be carrying these specific models at such a great price point.

The Chieftec GPU-550FC is a power supply designed specifically for users looking to upgrade their existing systems with a dedicated graphics card without having to overhaul their entire setup. It’s a straightforward unit that focuses on providing enough headroom for mid-range builds, making it a practical choice if you're moving away from integrated graphics toward something like an RX580 or a similar entry-level card. Looking at the specs, it delivers a continuous power of 550W, which is plenty for most modern budget gaming rigs. The build quality feels solid enough for its class, and while it isn't a high-end enthusiast unit, it does the job reliably. It uses standard connectors that should play nice with most mainstream motherboards and GPUs currently on the market. If you find yourself needing a little extra juice to support a new GPU in an older desktop, this is a sensible, no-nonsense option. It doesn't promise the world, but for a targeted upgrade, it hits the mark quite well.

I took a look at the specs for this Chieftec PowerPlay Gold unit, and honestly, there isn't much to dissect because it’s pretty straightforward hardware meant for people who just want their PC to turn on without any drama. It’s a decent mid-range option if you aren't trying to build a NASA supercomputer, though it lacks some of the high-end flair you might find in a premium Seasonic build. The unit offers a solid continuous power output of 650 Watts, which is more than enough for most modern builds featuring an RX580 or even a mid-tier Nvidia card, provided you aren't pushing the limits of your TDP. It’s built around reliable components like Nichicon capacitors, which gives me a bit of confidence regarding its longevity under normal loads. You aren't getting anything revolutionary here, but for a standard desktop setup, it does exactly what it says on the tin. If you're looking to pair this with something like a Ryzen 5500 or an Intel I5 Processor bas Power 125 w Maximum Turbo Power 181 w, you won't run into any immediate stability issues. It's a functional, no-nonsense piece of gear that sits comfortably in that middle ground where you get reliability without paying the massive markup for boutique branding. It’s essentially a workhorse for anyone who wants to grab something from Micro Center or Amazon and forget about it for a few years.

I’ve been looking over the specs on this Chieftec unit, and honestly, there isn't much to say that hasn't been said before about these types of power supplies. It’s a standard piece of hardware that does exactly what you'd expect from a mid-range option when you aren't looking to break the bank at Best Buy or Micro Center. If you're just putting together a basic build and don't need anything fancy, it gets the job done without much fuss. The build quality seems adequate enough for a budget-conscious setup, though it doesn't exactly scream high-end engineering like something you'd find from Seasonic. You get your expected efficiency ratings, and it handles the basic loads without any major drama, provided you aren't trying to push a massive high-end GPU through it. It’s a functional, no-frills component for someone who wants to keep things simple and predictable. It isn't going to win any awards for innovation, but it isn't a total gamble either.

https://www.nabava.net/search.php?q=...650W&cod=&cdo=

I checked out that special offer on the website, and honestly, it’s one of those deals that looks decent on paper until you start digging into what you're actually getting for your money. It’s easy to get caught up in the low price tag, but when you look at the specific components listed, you have to wonder if the value really holds up once you factor in the long-term reliability. Sometimes these bundles feel like they were assembled just to clear out old stock rather than to provide a cohesive build for someone who actually cares about their hardware. If you're looking for something reliable, you might want to weigh this against picking up individual parts from Micro Center or checking what's currently trending on Amazon instead.

I checked out that special offer on the website, and honestly, it’s worth a look if you're hunting for a deal. It seems like they've put together a decent package, though as always, you have to weigh the specific components against what else is floating around the market. It's one of those situations where the value proposition looks solid on paper, provided you aren't looking for top-tier enthusiast gear. If you need something reliable without breaking the bank, this might be exactly the kind of thing that fits your setup.

I picked up the 550W version—hasn't actually installed it yet—which is going to serve my HTPC needs perfectly since I'm moving everything into a new case along with this unit, and I plan on running it with passive cooling. There are a few critical little details worth noting so you actually know what you're getting into here.

- it features high-quality Japanese capacitors

- it’s fully modular

- it sports a robust, durable 14cm fan

- the fan isn't noisy, even during standard operation

- it can run with completely passive cooling because there's a switch on the back that lets the fan just sleep. This is a massive advantage for any modern HTPC setup without a dedicated graphics card—just using an iGPU—or any low-power build where the total draw stays under roughly 140W; in those cases, the PSU fan won't spin at all.

- This belongs to the Chieftec PowerPlay Gold series, which uses a platform from the well-known manufacturer CWT.


The Seasonic b12 BC series wasn't even an option for me. Those days when Seasonic manufactured their own budget-friendly yet top-tier units are long gone. You just don't find those affordable, high-quality "made by Seasonic" units anymore. I wouldn't touch them, let alone recommend them, not a chance. When you look at general component quality, specifically the capacitors, the Seasonic b12 BC series couldn't hold a candle to my old Seasonic model that is still running flawlessly today.🍿
Budget PC build around $450? in Desktops ·
Adam Moore3 said:CPU - https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5-5600G-Desktop-Processor/dp/B09V6S6Y6N
MBO - https://www.newegg.com/ASRock-B450M-Pro4/p/N82E16813139343

You don't need an extra cooler; the stock one included with the CPU will be fine.
I wouldn't bother with a dual-core CPU. I think you're still looking at around $300 with just these two parts.
If you want to shave another hundred bucks off the price, you could go with the 4600G instead - https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Ryzen-5-4600G-Desktop-Processor/dp/B08X4Z6S7P

When looking to save some cash, $50a budget-friendly Biostar AM4 motherboard is an option.😁 The Biostar B450 should have the latest BIOS to support all Ryzen processors. The Biostar board might not ship with the most recent BIOS installed, but since it's a B450 series, you'd likely just need to flash the latest BIOS for AMD Renoir/4000 and Cezanne/5000 APUs. Micro Center can handle that for you if you aren't comfortable updating the BIOS yourself for any reason. A Biostar board might not win any beauty contests, but you can ignore the aesthetics when you're trying to save money. $50.😵

https://www.newegg.com/biostar-b450mh-am4/product/

https://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb...925#cpusupport

Any extra funds from $50 should be diverted toward DDR4 memory; a 2x8GB kit is quite affordable these days. For a reasonable amount of cash, $117you can grab 16GB of RAM and call it a day. Stick to DDR4 speeds between 3000-3200MHz, because cheaper B450 motherboards generally don't play well with faster DDR4 modules.

https://www.newegg.com/memory/ddr4-ram/

https://www.microcenter.com/products/index...ByAGEAbgBqAGUA

Definitely just stick with the R5 4600G, given it's a 6/12 core processor. However, buying through Micro Center is probably the move since they tend to be $13 more cost-effective. When you're working with a tight budget, every dollar matters and $13 shouldn't be thrown out the window.

https://www.microcenter.com/products/index...AWEADQE%3D

Here is a potential build from Micro Center, focusing on $783 just the components without a case, which is easy enough to pick out based on preference. An Asus A320 motherboard supports AMD Renoir/Cezanne APUs, though it really comes down to whether you can manage a BIOS update, which Micro Center can assist with. Since this isn't a gaming rig, there's no need for a high-end, ultra-fast SSD. Given the entire system won't even pull 120W, the power supply choice is simply about avoiding some nameless junk. ☕

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-co...=PRIME-A320M-K

Alexander Moore67 said:https://www.bestbuy.com/lenovo-laptop-image-link


That kind of thing is really only meant for the most uninformed customers, though I suppose you could also view it as a poor investment for a business looking for a workstation since it's just a Lenovo and such.😁

With only 8GB of RAM available, there isn't much point in discussing this further besides pointing out one specific detail.

- The 4/8 R5 3400G actually draws more power compared to the 6/12 R5 4600G.

The fundamental goal when building a PC is simply to either select the best individual components or find a complete prebuilt system for the lowest possible price.☕
Prices are dropping on older AMD Ryzen 4000 Series chips, specifically the 6-core/12-thread R5 4500, which is sitting at just $227 right now.

https://www.newegg.com/p/example...AWEADQE%3D

The 4-core/8-thread Ryzen 3 4300G and the 6-core/12-thread R5 4600G are actually priced identically at the moment $298. I honestly can't wrap my head around the logic behind that pricing structure, but it doesn't really matter; I highly doubt many buyers will be clueless enough to accidentally pick up the Ryzen 3 4300G when the better option is right there for the same price.🍿
Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
hollowdriver13 said:So, looking at this, the damage points are terrifyingly close to the route of the Baltic Pipe, which just went online
.
https://mobile.twitter.com/bidetmarx...467840/photo/2

Here’s where the Nord Stream stuff got hit.

https://mobile.twitter.com/visegrad2...618753/photo/2

And here’s the path for the Baltic Pipe.

I mean, maybe someone is trying to send a little message that this pipeline isn't exactly safe either... just saying...

If things actually escalate, that Baltic Pipe is likely going to be the very first strategic target Russia goes after. Once the gloves come off and there's no more holding back, entire stretches of infrastructure become legitimate military targets.☕
Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
McVily said:That relentless stubbornness and banging their heads against a wall is going to cost the Russians everything...

By last week, it was obvious with Lyman that the deal was done, unless they managed some kind of insane turnaround.

Despite all those supposed "goodwill" withdrawals, they haven't actually pulled back when it really mattered.

They are flatly denying and ignoring every single principle of modern warfare.🙂

It’s not that I feel bad, 🙂 but it seems the Ukrainians have been reading Sun Tzu: never stop pressing an opponent while they're making mistakes.🙂

You seem to have forgotten World War II and how that ended just because the Russians refused to quit fighting the Germans. The losses were massive, almost like they were treating ants instead of people, but they just kept pushing until the end. If the Germans or the Russians had functional atomic bombs at the time, they probably would have tossed a couple at one another.

Now, they certainly aren't going to back down, so we'll just have to wait and see if the world survives this. Like I mentioned before, plenty of people believe World War III actually kicked off on February 24, 2022, with the Russian invasion of Ukraine. There isn't much left to say beyond that; we'll just live through it and see, though things could easily spiral completely out of control. Someone might call me a pessimist, but you have to be realistic—we are living in incredibly uncertain times right now.☕
Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
You don't run into footage like this all that often, unless you assume modern battlefield drones just aren't capable of catching every single detail . To put it bluntly, a Ukrainian assault went sideways somewhere, and in the sheer panic of the retreat, they ended up running right over a few of their own. The driver of the transport vehicle really caught a bad break here, somehow managing to plow straight into a trench or a foxhole despite being surrounded by nothing but flat, open fields. ☕
Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
wanderingmaker3 said:Intel and CNN on Telegram are reporting something new that I definitely didn't see coming, and it changes the whole vibe of this war:

The Russians have started targeting power plants, and word is most of Kharkiv is already without electricity or running water.
Kramatorsk is out of power too.
A thermal power plant in Kremenchuk took a hit.

��������⚡Arrivals were recorded at Kharkiv CHPP-5, which is one of the largest combined heat and power plants in Ukraine.

Just waiting for these reports to be verified.

This isn't the first time they've done this, but it seems they've finally decided to go after the power grid, the water supply, and even heating systems.From the jump, Russia focused on rail infrastructure, certain bridges here and there, and almost exclusively targeted the Ukrainian military industry.

I voiced concerns about Kharkiv earlier, but they haven't moved against Kyiv in any massive way just yet.

In short, yes—when you start hitting the entire infrastructure, it means they've flipped the switch to a real war where nobody is holding anything back.☕
Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
Richard Wood2 said:The Russians are basically pulling out of the Kharkiv area entirely... honestly, the scale of this whole thing feels almost on par with Operation Storm, which is just a massive embarrassment for them since they completely missed the fact that the Ukrainian Armed Forces were massing right under their noses, despite them being the second most powerful military on the planet...🤣

They aren't retreating, and I’m not just talking about the territory they recently abandoned. I’ll say it again: you really need to look at where the second largest city in Ukraine is actually located.☕

William Anderson5 said:Mobilization would be the end of Putin. I don't think people truly grasp the implications here. This isn't some video game where you just click a mouse to build an army in Total War. There is at least a 50% chance this spirals into an outright rebellion against Putin's regime. These are dangerous games being played. Simply put, Putin has no idea how to handle this. His easiest move would be to just resign...

Not quite the opposite; if you're planning on waging war without any constraints, that’s exactly how it’s done.I highly doubt you've actually forgotten about World War II or the sheer scale of what unfolded across the territories of Russia and Ukraine.

It’s the same old story: Putin can't even manage his own business, so he acts like he's Iron Man just to save face.😵Considering the kind of people he keeps in his inner circle—both within the military and the political establishment—you could arguably call him moderate, if that’s even the right word for it.

If Russia decides to declare an official state of war, we’re looking at a full-scale escalation, and then we'll just have to see how the dust settles.☕
Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
Nathan Thomas12 said:Every single time the USA picks a fight, Russia steps in to arm and back the other side. Does that mean Russia and the Americans have been at war at least ten times already?!

That’s exactly how it works—either you face the conflict head-on, or you just stay silent about it indirectly and end up fighting the same war for decades.Vietnam is a classic case study where the Russians and Chinese played a massive role by funneling weapons to their side. You look at Iran versus Israel, and you already know exactly how that influence works and who is pulling the strings behind the scenes. When an American sends Stingers or Manpads to some ragtag Mujahideen to take down a Mi-24, that is, by definition, an indirect conflict with the Russians. There are plenty of examples like this, and one of the most recent was in Syria, where they actually called on the Russians for assistance. If the West had stepped in there, Assad would have ended up just like Hussein did in Iraq, or Syria would have been tactically redesigned following the Libyan scenario.☕
Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
Sigmund Freud said:just put it on an MP3

this whole thing is moving far too fast for me.
the Ukrainians could probably afford to slow down for a second and just grab a coffee or a drink in peace

Let it move, I suppose, though if I were writing this earlier, I’d have suggested waiting at least a month so we don't end up looking like a cow acting like a donkey.

It’s a fair point to make, considering tactical retreats are a legitimate part of military strategy designed to set up future maneuvers.

https://twitter.com/KingKong9888/sta...38916382818305

There is a very logical reason why the Russians are relentlessly pounding Cleveland, which stands as the second largest city in Ukraine. The Russian border isn't exactly a distant thing, so we'll just have to wait and see how things develop. Generally speaking, my assessment is that there won't be any peace in that region—meaning all of Ukraine—for years to come; there will be massive problems. Peace is a relic of the past, much like the situation before 2014, or perhaps it will eventually resemble the Israel vs Palestinian situation where conflict is constant.

There is a significant chance that the Russians will eventually declare a classic war against Ukraine. Right now, they call it a "special operation," but once a state of war is officially declared, the entire dynamic shifts. In reality, the Russians aren't just fighting Ukraine; they are effectively at odds with everyone providing weapons to Ukrainians.

It is also worth noting that plenty of people believe World War III actually began with the Russian onslaught on Ukraine. I find myself agreeing with that assessment, and we will simply have to wait and see how it all unfolds in the end.☕
Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
McVily said:He’s got a point, though; the Russians fight by their own set of rules, and one of those hallmarks is this habit of spontaneously abandoning territory as a gesture of "goodwill," rather than admitting they're actually losing on the battlefield. ☕

We saw this play out around Kyiv and Kharkiv, and even with Snake Island, except enough time has passed there that I'm not sure if we should be calling it an American success yet or if we're still just waiting to see how Russia reacts... maybe someone dropped the ball along the way. 🤔

Snake Island is a non-issue, much like Kyiv, aside from the fact that Kyiv is the primary metropolitan hub of Ukraine.

As far as I can tell, the Russians haven't backed down from Kharkiv. Once winter sets in, the situation is going to look entirely different. With the heating infrastructure being dismantled, a massive portion of the population in Ukraine is going to be freezing. Kharkiv is in particularly bad shape, considering the Russians have crippled the central heating plant that services a third of its 1.4 million residents.

If you take a look at the map of Ukraine's natural resources, you might start to realize what this conflict is actually about; nobody goes to war over thin air or empty fields. It's always been about the resources, and frankly, territory without them doesn't interest anyone. Seriously, look closely at the resource map. If you truly grasp what you're looking at, it becomes obvious why Russia isn't planning on walking away.☕

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Russia's invasion of Ukraine: Part 5 in War in Ukraine ·
Thomas Nelson25 said:More "fireworks" over in Crimea again

Strategically speaking, it’s secondary, especially when you look at what’s actually happening across the entire front line.

In case anyone missed it, I'm not entirely sure if this went down on the same day as the strike on Crimea or a day after. Winter is creeping up on us, and there's really no need to dwell on the details if they can't get that power plant back online. Given everything unfolding around Kharkiv, this likely won't be the last time that power plant gets hit.☕

https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/...69432122392576
Bluetooth mouse in Hardware ·
Robert Rodriguez2 said:Picked up some gear on Amazon, $13 now we just wait to see when it actually shows up 😁 🕺

It’s the kind of little thing you just order straight from China.😁 What’s actually the point of even bothering when you consider the headache of receiving a defective mouse? Go ahead, try to sell me on the idea; most of the time, you just end up hitting a brick wall when you try to push for a return and they refuse to cooperate.☕
Bluetooth mouse in Hardware ·
Robert Rodriguez2 said:Just keeping it brief—does anyone know if there's a mouse out there with built-in Bluetooth that doesn't need a dongle to pair directly with a tablet or smartphone? 🙂

Thanks in advance.

p.s. I haven't lost my mind searching yet, just looking for some ideas.🙂

So you’d just be sitting there sipping a beer while everyone else is out there pouring concrete and finishing the deck.😁

unknown, it features Bluetooth but doesn't seem to need a USB receiver. Whether it connects to a phone, well, I'm not entirely sure, though it's probably not going to work. On the spec sheet, it lists support for PCs, laptops, and tablets, but it doesn't mention phones or Smartphones.

It isn't expensive, so you might as well give it a shot; if the connection fails, it's certainly not worth $30 jumping into the Mississippi over.🍿

https://www.trust.com/en/product/211...ss-mouse-black

https://www.nabava.net/search.php?q=...Xani&cod=&cdo=
Timothy Palmer28 said:Hey everyone, my old PC finally kicked the bucket, and honestly, I don't have the energy to play detective and figure out what broke, so I'm thinking about just picking up a new build. My main uses are going to be YouTube, HBO, and Netflix, plus maybe running some older games every now and then. What do you guys think of this one?

https://www.newegg.com/p/example-link-72850/product/

Not that computer,😁 for that kind of money, it’s an easy pass—just forget about it.I'll put together a custom build from Newegg for you instead, and you can find my suggestions in the thread linked below, so just keep an eye on that.🍿

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Zachary Nguyen2 said:If you can afford to wait, then go ahead and hang on, prices are bound to drop, they're sitting on massive amounts of inventory, and fewer people are buying every single day.

Not going to happen; you can pretty much kiss those old prices and good times goodbye. Everything new for the AMD AM5 socket is going to be pricey, whereas you'll only find those decent deals on older processors if you stick with the long-lived AM4 socket.

A few years back, I picked up a couple of Athlon 3000G units for $133. Today, that same model costs significantly more simply because production has been scaled back while demand remains steady enough.

Meanwhile, look at what Intel is offering for the 1700 socket; they have a 2/2 processor available here for about $167.

https://www.amazon.com/processors/intel...price-182524571

Nobody is going to hand over a 6/12 core processor for next to nothing, especially not an APU version or an AMD APU that actually holds its own for iGPU gaming.

Take a look at the German market, or even the well-known Mindafactory, to see how their pricing looks. An R5 Pro 4650G goes for 144 euros, which works out to roughly $360.

Over in Germany, the R5 4500 is priced at 110 euros, or $277. That’s a solid deal for a 6/12 core chip, regardless of the fact that it's just a Zen 2 CPU with a meager 8MB of L3 Cache. Those specific models aren't exactly sitting in surplus; they're basically the useful leftovers from batches where the iGPU was defective. Whether it's a Zen 2 / Ryzen 5 4500 or a Zen 3 / Ryzen 5 5500, these are highly functional "scraps" that come with much lower price tags.

https://www.mindfactory.de/Hardware/...ockel+AM4.html

As for prices dropping, when I was buying a few years ago, I grabbed an R5 Pro 4650G for $500.☕
It looks like a sale is running, Futurait and even AMD are currently moving the Ryzen 5 Pro 4650G for just $333 if you pay cash at the register.

This is the Tray version without a cooler, though it shouldn't be an issue since a decent LC Power cooler runs about 100-$40.

https://www.nabava.net/search.php?q=LC+POWER+LC-CC-95

For a quick price comparison, the Ryzen 5 4500 goes for roughly $333 because it lacks an iGPU. These chips are essentially identical, except on the Ryzen 5 4500 iGPU, the graphics might be broken or simply disabled.

The Zen 3 / Ryzen 5 5500 is also seeing some discounts right now, whether you grab the Tray or the Box version, with the current price sitting at $355.🍿
S - Kingdom of Sweden in European Union ·
In case anyone is looking for a deep dive, there’s a really strong documentary here that lays out the massive issues surrounding violence and crime in Sweden.



"Immigrants are perfectly integrated into Swedish society." It’s hard to know what to make of that when you consider that Sweden used to be an incredibly safe place with almost no crime to speak of.🍿