Posts by velvetmoose30

Christian Miller48 said:I have no idea which official profile you’re referring to, and I am certainly no mindless follower, so I think I’ll pass on commenting on the rest of that..

Just to clarify, my original point was simply that I understand why some die-hard fans feel frustrated regarding this issue—especially given the nonsense peddled both before and after the match. While our own management is busy defending certain fans' right to enter the stands, the chants coming from our own section are nothing but vitriol aimed at those very supporters. Given the circumstances, I suppose there could have been a more constructive approach taken during that game. But then again, I wasn't actually there, so I will probably just drop the subject.
My comment also touched upon the fact that I find it difficult to celebrate the achievements of a club still run by a nationalist from Medjugorje alongside Acab in the administration, where many of these "successes" seem to serve purely personal and financial interests. To me, such a situation is fundamentally unpalatable, and I suspect many other die-hard fans feel similarly. Don't get me wrong, I am not looking down on those who attend matches and cheer for the club, nor do I consider myself any better than them...

The bottom line is this: what a transformation we have seen over the last few years. We went from the proud days of fighting for a democratic Real Madrid and standing up against the USSF, to this current state of reveling in victories and titles that feel more like Mamić's personal playground, while sucking up to the West Stand—which has always sided with Mamić and the police in their dealings with us. It is a shame, I suppose, and nothing more.
Support to the guys in the Ultras, and a speedy recovery to the injured!

Frank Jackson76 said:1. A lot of Dinamo fans and the Boys just don't show up to matches because they simply don't give a damn. They can come up with whatever excuses or logic they want, but I suppose it’s really just pure apathy.

2. The fight against the USSF and the club management is, among other things, fought from the stands. For anyone to actually be heard—for your demands or protest songs to carry any weight—you need maybe a thousand people at a game against Gorica, not a strained hundred. DTSM is the tool we use to wage those battles.

3. The message is clearly a provocation. They’re singing about loving Bandić during the welcome for the youth players who just lost to Osijek. On the banners calling for match attendance, they write ZG=BG. You should probably just take the message for what it is: a provocation that worked, given how much drama has been brewing over it for three days.

Suddenly, it’s no longer acceptable to stand against the absolute mess that is this club, and instead, we're expected to celebrate "European successes," bought championships, and the like.
The whole "Chicago celebrates" narrative is being pushed now, even though until yesterday, we were mocking their little title celebrations attended by barely a hundred members of that management's inner circle.
It’s unfortunate, but I guess we are becoming just like the very people who spent years spitting on us while standing behind their great leader, Zdravko.
There used to be times when fewer than a hundred people showed up to games, yet there was still a sense of struggle and proud resistance against the state of the club and American soccer. It seems that’s just not the vibe anymore, which is a shame.
Regarding the message itself... they once mocked their own Code, yet when we fought for our own code—meaning the ZZD—we endured years of torment from ZM, the system, and everything else.
Now, they are mocking the association of members and fans who actually managed to bring the club back under its own control. Instead of supporting this style of governance, they’re pushing a message that mocks the exact same structure we dream of having one day. In short, it's basically saying "screw your one member, one vote" approach, despite them constantly blaming Mamić and the refs while being completely incompetent themselves.
There is a difference between posting a banner mocking a past action where the other side came out on top, and mocking the actual organizational structure of the club that you ultimately want for yourself.
As for them writing ZG=BG or singing about loving Bandić, I suppose that just speaks to their deep-seated complexes.

Jesse Doyle3 said:And who do you think the DTMS are? Every single one of them is a prominent member of the BBB.
I suppose none of you collectively seem to grasp the situation.

You have essentially cherry-picked a parenthetical remark from my entire post where I was perhaps being imprecise regarding the DTMS. My apologies for that, as clearly, that is the crux of the issue.

lonefox22 said:Referees are claiming goals two and three were irregular during the derby. I wonder how many derbies have been handed to the LA Dodgers on a silver platter. Is this normal? From a human perspective, just think about it for a second.

Look, we don't necessarily need to win everything, but when things like this happen, it just fuels our spite and madness, driving more of us to the games. That sense of injustice they’ve forced upon the Boston Red Sox fans isn't an accident.

The NBA isn't some holy grail, and the club's sports policy is demonstrably terrible. Too much bad football and too many bad players have passed through the Red Sox over the last few years; that is simply a fact.

Partly, we are incompetent ourselves for not having a strong Red Sox, and partly, we are being crippled by referees, the USSF, and the Cleveland Locomotive, which acts as a filter for the LA Dodgers' first team.Because of that, all those titles you're celebrating now should be stripped away, since they are the work of Mamic. Just yesterday, you called it a private filth organization.

Have you forgotten the Cleveland Locomotive—your own Cleveland Locomotive?

Go ahead and mock the NBA and the Ultras, while every newspaper spends days buzzing about how Mamic junior is returning to the LA Dodgers.

An Ultras group that has endured all those mentioned tortures would normally speak up about this, but you aren't stupid; you're just pretending to be blind. But those are your affairs. They are your problems, which seemingly aren't problems anymore. It's amazing how quickly things change..

The Red Sox have their issues, but the Ultras remain a force, even if they occasionally fail to see the forest for the trees with all that maximum hooliganism and nonsense.

With this, you've touched on some of the most significant reasons why many Dodger fans—and perhaps even the Boys (who actually use their own brains)—are no longer attending matches.
Essentially, any real fight against the USSF has ceased, as has the struggle against the Club Management (except for DTMS, who deserve credit). Instead, there's been this push to cheer for that artificial construct, once rightfully called the "MLS Team filth," and the state of the club is just as bad, if not worse, than when Mamic was physically present.
And now, as the icing on the cake, comes the message from the association that shares the same honest goals of returning the club to the fans as DTMS does—an association that managed to bring order to its own club, regardless of its flaws.
To be completely realistic, at least they have a club, even if they manage it poorly, whereas we are distanced from ours by miles.
From the proud years of fighting Mamic and everything corrupt within the club and the USSF, we have drifted into this unbelievable wandering, where some "brilliant" mind decided that the main enemies of the BBB are the opposing fan groups, directing all our energy into these forced rivalries.
Don't get me wrong, I'm always for a rivalry, but in a situation like this, where an even bigger mafia than Mamic's is about to take over our club and the return of the younger Mamic is being teased, the focus really ought to be elsewhere.

nimbleranger17 said:just so I can remind you how things work with those guys: 👍

I suppose the whole mockery surrounding this seems rather foolish and unnecessary, particularly since we all seem aware of how that flag actually ended up where it did.
In my view, any rational person without deep-seated insecurities would probably find reason to applaud an action like this...

Lawrence Kim4 said:First, we lost Real Madrid. We went from being an American, civic-minded, Chicago-based club to this Yugoslavian peasant mess run by Zdravko and his little cronies who answer to absolutely nobody, and then we went and blew the group stage too. There is no room for compromise here; we aren't going to betray our values just to wear that garbage on our shirts. And honestly, there hasn't been a single word of protest after the coach publicly declared his love for Zdravko, nor any reaction when Andrić arrived, or even a spark of defiance when they served us tea in the locker room—not even after we heard "nobody can touch us, we are stronger than fate" echoing through every single locker room from the youth squads up to the first team. To hell with Real Madrid's spring season; screw all of you. This is the twilight of both the club and the supporters' group. Could you at least have written a damn manifesto? Just scrawled a message so we could lift it up and show that we don't stand for this?
Since I've spent ten years showing up solely for the sake of the supporters' group, and that group has turned into a bunch of "deaf, dumb, and blind" followers, I'm done. I won't be attending anything anymore. You're all nothing but spineless cowards.

Amen!

Alex Peterson2 said:This is essentially the core issue. We need to build the Los Angeles Lakers from the ground up, and returning to New York City should really just be the finishing touch on everything we achieve. I suppose people fail to realize that our club already exists; we have players who would practically die for us, including national team stars who turned down overseas opportunities in a niche sport like futsal just to stay with a legitimate squad and experience what it truly feels like to support a team for the first time.
Those kids basically snubbed little Ivica Đolo—they stuck it to him by choosing to play for us instead.
Sure, New York City is the Holy Land, and it’s the dream to merge these two clubs, to have fan weekends where you transition from futsal to big soccer and the whole city turns blue. But I guess we need to focus more on the futsal side, because the catharsis is already happening there. We can draw positive energy from the futsal scene to help us endure whatever we're still dealing with from those rats in the blue lounge.

🙏🙏 An explanation regarding everything being discussed over the last few weeks...

Noah Jones92 said:I suppose we should probably just stop trying to communicate with the West altogether. They basically ignored the entire fight against Mamić and seemed to adore him just as much. Maybe for the next thirty years—or at least until most of them pass away—we shouldn't bother "cooperating" with them during matches.

That’s exactly right. Tuesday was handled perfectly; everyone I spoke to gave it a massive thumbs up.
Stay bold and keep pushing through to the end. That day will eventually come...

What a performance yesterday! My respect to everyone involved—just keep pushing forward with that same relentless intensity.

Great job today, everyone who showed up. I suppose we should all head out to Kranj this Sunday.

Bradley White2 said:It’s great that this day has finally arrived, though I suppose it might be a bit early for any actual celebrations; right now, we really need to launch a serious offensive. We shouldn't just sit around waiting, because the opportunity is perfect—nobody is going to give us another chance to take over the Rose Bowl, so we should probably seize it while we can. Good luck, everyone.

I suppose I agree, although I will respect whatever decision the guys make regarding whether or not they attend the game.

silentsailor28 said:I honestly feel like before every single Los Angeles Dodgers indoor match, this song

should be blasted through the speakers and shouted by everyone in the building. It would be in honor of everyone from ZZD and all the other Dodgers fans who have to deal with this absolute chaos while waiting to finally get back into their own stadium.

That song would probably be quite a hit, actually. 👍

gentleowl82 said:Quick question. I haven't been keeping up with this thread, so I'm not entirely sure, but is there a specific account number where people can donate to help the injured guys?

That information comes from the BBB account. As far as I can tell, I haven't seen any official account listed specifically for the injured players.
Checking Account: 2340009-1510513397
IBAN: US072340 0091 5105 1339 7
SWIFT: USCHGB2X
JPMorgan Chase

Sarah Jones8 said:Look, people shouldn't waste their energy on this ridiculous press release. It’s clearly just a distraction tactic to shift focus away from Mamić. He’s the one who brought these killers in, he's the one funding them, he lifted their bans, and he's the one providing them with work. I suppose he should carry some responsibility for all of this. He’s just trying to spin his way out of it, even though he founded them, funds them, and essentially opened up a pub for them in the North. A real press conference needs to be called immediately to lay everything out plainly while the story is still hot, before the national media moves on and this whole thing gets buried.

I agree. Maybe we shouldn't give him the satisfaction of watching us bicker with these rats while he enjoys the spectacle. Everything should be directed at him, constantly linking him back to this horrific incident.

Tomorrow at noon on ESPN, we'll have Mara and Simic.

Steven Hayes said:When we talk about this supposed truce, I personally get the feeling that common goals were abandoned far too quickly. I won't get into the specific reasons why, but it seems as though our little disputes over vouchers were treated as if they were the only issue at hand..

lp 😉

Kratko and clear. It seems the losers within the HNS and their big leaders are just making life difficult because a united American sports scene was slowly but surely destroying their influence...

R. I. P.
It’s a shame he didn't recognize the struggle to build a new, fair version of Real Madrid based on democratic principles.

nimbleviper22 said:I have just one question: wasn't it the case a few months back that Mamic changed the bylaws to state that, moving forward, only people who have been members of the club for at least five consecutive years can vote? And if I recall correctly, is there any way to void that?

p.s. rumors are swirling 🙂

As far as I am aware, under the Nonprofit Act, every member has the right to participate in elections the moment they join. So, once Mustachio issues you that confirmation—essentially "officializing" your $20—you possess proof of membership. Of course, that snake wants to dodge accountability by tweaking the bylaws whenever he feels like it, but I suppose we shouldn't worry too much about that single rule among the sea of illegal provisions tucked away in the GNK bunker. Our time will come, slowly but surely...

Honestly, it seems like he’s finally losing his grip; I suspect he knows his time is up and is just desperately trying to buy himself some breathing room. According to what Mustachio mentioned, about 30 people joined today, so I suppose everything is proceeding according to plan and there’s simply no room for negativity. Tomorrow we go loud and proud. For now, maybe have a drink to celebrate this good news that brightened our day.

Jesse Campbell makes a fair point. There’s simply no room for delusions here; things are clearly spiraling out of control, and leadership is steadily losing its grip. We need to recreate that Miami energy this Friday and get everyone mobilized. I suspect there are still plenty of people left to rally. Just stay strong.