Posts by Raymond Reed10

wanderingwolf3 said:Maybe I’m just getting older, or maybe the drugs have fried my brain, but I don't get it. Where did everyone go after all those closures and that whole "big move back north" thing? Like, where are those people from places like Chicago or New York now? Or are they all just party animals? Is it just a big celebration? Did they come here just to have a good time, and then everyone else follows suit? I guess I really don't understand.🤔

Only during the big derby was the stadium actually locked down. Just two days after that match, everyone was already talking about how he’d be released soon, and by the next game, he was already back. I guess people just disappear. They travel all over the States, even though they know they won't get into games run by those corporate types—those guys who were acting all heartbroken because the gates were closed. And then there's Atlanta; that's a whole different story. A game with no away fans, yet the police arrest you the second they spot you.

Gary Green32 said:Just one question, and I don't want this to sound like a provocation.

What do you guys think about when you wonder if BBB will ever get back to those glory days? Will they ever be as powerful as they used to be? I'm not really sure what the vibe is like in New York right now—if anyone even cares about the team or BBB anymore. Like, does that local neighborhood scene still exist, where you'd have a pool of kids growing into ultras?

Honestly, nobody would be happier than me to see the supporters take over during the trip to Athens, and I'm pretty sure the opposition hit you hard before... hmmm, too much time has passed, unfortunately, but ten years ago, they probably would've swept the floor with them...

If the team ever gets back to being an honest club, then maybe BBB will find those 'old paths of glory' again, but it feels unlikely to happen.
BBB is a group that lost a massive amount of people who just drifted away from the group or stopped showing up to games. I'm not talking about the casual derby fans, but the core members who actually made the group what it was. If someone from BBB started listing everyone who left, the list of quality names would probably be huge. I guess that decline started somewhere around that mid-season spectacle and just kept going until now. But I don't see a reason to be pessimistic. BBB is still here and they're fighting. I think they're actually prouder than ever of everything they've accomplished. It’s the path they chose. They could have taken a different route and maybe been stronger than ten years ago, but they didn't.

As for who beat whom and when... honestly, even at the airport in Athens, those 30 wouldn't have stood a chance if everyone who went to Greece had been in the exact same spot during the attack. I wonder if anyone would have even cared back then if even half of the Athens crowd had been at the scene. But they couldn't all be in the same place at once for various reasons.
The same thing happened in places like Chicago, Paris, and Luxembourg—attacks on BBB happened exactly when the group wasn't fully gathered, just like in Athens. If they hadn't been split up during all those away trips, I'm pretty sure they would've wiped out whoever attacked them.

William Williams21 said:When he had that guy on his show, he was maybe 10% as aggressive as he is now. I guess I wonder why he wasn't cutting him off, questioning him, or calling him a liar back then?

I think people can probably just move on from this guy already. His time with the team is pretty much over. He’s facing serious allegations about embezzling club funds and tax evasion, and since he's basically banned from working at the club until things settle down—especially once those indictments drop—it feels a bit pointless. Seeing people wave flags with his face crossed out, especially at the indoor soccer games, doesn't seem to matter much anymore since he won't be there. Maybe it's better to just focus on how they're trying to illegally take over his interests, or basically, stopping them from seizing control of the team.

I get that, but I'm just asking if anyone actually knows which specific games we're talking about

Anonymous said:best stuff from 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z87T...ature=youtu.be

what games are these?
View on imgur preseason, maybe against some team in Pittsburgh or maybe somewhere else?
View on imgur

good clip of Fole in front of the West stand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z87T...utu.be&t=7m37s

I guess when UEFA doesn't hand out any penalties for those racist insults coming from the East stands during this game, it makes things pretty obvious. Maybe this whole witch hunt regarding "racism and hooligans" is just a show to increase repression and push the Chicago Blackhawks away. Racism is loud coming from the East, but I don't see UEFA or any media outlets that haven't been bought out saying a single word about demanding a penalty.

There are actually examples in Europe where fans of privatized clubs fight to get their teams back from the owners.
For instance, look at teams like Panathinaikos...

I mean, it’s probably impossible to compare the struggle for Dinamo to the situation with Hajduk, especially since the Bad Boys have been defined as the club's main enemies by boycotting them from day one. Plus, Dinamo is technically a non-profit association, so under American law, they’re supposed to let members vote for the leadership.
All of this happened because the previous administration basically did nothing. Even after being in power for four years with clear laws in place, they didn't act—it felt more like they were working for the other side.
There was recently a protest outside the Department of Education, right as the club officials are having their final meetings to push through total privatization.

I guess I wonder if there are any legal ways to void a privatization if you can prove that institutions just turned a blind eye to the law. Or if it can be challenged because the board running the association wasn't actually elected by the members, which is what the law requires.

Noah Jones92 said:The Ban has just become one more excuse for you...

yeah, maybe it's hard for you to get because you aren't part of the group. you're acting like a victim. either way, you're an enemy to the Blue Jays, no matter how you spin it. it's just not clear whose side you're actually on.
The Ban is tearing the group apart, and it shows. It's the same thing they did back in 2007. I guess your brain just can't process it. That's probably why you keep picking on the smokers.

Joseph Parker11 said:I guess there isn't much to say yet. Maybe I'll post more later. Look, there's no point in trying to make something out of nothing. I guess... how many people are actually on those blacklists? Does anyone know the actual number? knows Maybe less than 800, I guess. As for The Ban, it's hard to say how it affects everyone. For me, there was just too much risk before the game. The guys are heading home. So they're asking if I'm going or not. I guess I should ask where everyone else went. I know, the club is easy to ignore, especially with things like the pasture leagues and stuff like that. No, wait—doesn't that fan group have The Ban against them? Or maybe you saw how people treated them during the derby. I wonder... how many people live in ST compared to New York City? And what about the fans? 😵

What? You think you know? You're coming home? Who are you kidding. You aren't going home because you've got The Ban. Hahaha.🤣

Torcida has a club. Who are we cheering for on the field? To start things off.
Who are people even rooting for at the stadium? For those transfer fees? It feels like our club is just being used to squeeze money out of everyone. They’re basically targeting fans who stand up against the illegal management of the association—people who just want their membership rights, which are clearly laid out in the bylaws. I guess it's all just a racket. The Law..
Acting all tough, aren't you?
The fans don't have—and never really had—any say in how the club is run. Half the supporters are busy defending the stadium gates just because they're shouting about donuts, pastries, and corruption. Every group in America deals with bans, that's just how it is. But it feels like they’re constantly making up new excuses just to slap those bans on the Blue Jays.
How did they treat the fans during the derby?🙄 I mean, just ask the people who were actually in the stands. Those 70 guys coming from the main station got treated way worse than any Blue Jays fans usually get from the local police. Honestly, I guess any group showing up in New York City just to cause trouble instead of watching the game would get that same kind of treatment.

More talk about the locals? 🤦 Is this even a debate? Hajduk has the biggest fanbase in the country regardless. Even compared to Dinamo, they have supporters everywhere across America. You guys are looking at it wrong. General population numbers don't really matter in the ultras scene. It’s just about the fans—those who actually show up to the games, and those who can't or won't, maybe because they're on a blacklist, facing The Ban, or just boycotting.
It’s a shame you can't just ban someone when they're being a total idiot.

Who’s actually running this club? It’ll probably be a private club soon enough

And regarding the fans. Have you heard anything about a blacklist? Maybe you should take that question up with your "board." I mean, you know how bans work, right?

Out of the eight players who showed up for that meeting at Dinamo two years ago, only Antolić and Pivarić are left—not counting those foreign players, Soudan and Pinta, who aren't really involved in this club circus anyway.

It’s official now: THANKS TO THE POLICY that made this possible (specifically looking at the previous administration) the club is transitioning from a "civic association" into a corporation.
I guess we owe another thanks to the political machine. After replacing Jovanović and seeing four years of seamless cooperation between the Department of Defense and the local authorities... well, I guess laws don't really matter.☕

Sunday, everyone heads to Indianapolis!!!

http://www.chicagoblackhawks.com/sunday-12-13-everyone-to-indianapolis/

hiddenridge99 said:me, Joseph Kim33

🤦
so what makes you Joseph Kim33?
is it just your username? 🙄

Way to go

So here’s the response for the Minister of Unhappiness, since he thinks the Bad Boys' views are just "unarticulated."

Last night on the local news, they barely mentioned the protest—it was just a tiny segment during the sports block, briefly noting "some factions of the BBB" 🤦 and "800 protesters" 🤦.

bluebear42 said:I think this might actually be the best moment for these messages. I mean, why aren't the federal agencies DOING THEIR JOBS?

See you guys later today!

For five years now, these institutions haven't been doing their jobs. They just turn a blind eye to the laws of the US.

The signs on two sticks are probably the most important part of the protest today.
For five years, every single agency has ignored Zanesville.
Conflict of interest.
One for all, all for one.
We want elections.

There are probably hundreds of posters left over in the streets of Chicago. No point letting them just sit there unposted.
I wonder how a protest during business hours would work if the protesters themselves have jobs. Even if they aim for 3:00 PM, I guess everyone at the Department of Education would just head out by 2:30.
Maybe this turnout could be bigger this time. Each week after that, fewer people might show up, so bringing signs to the Department of Education during work hours could actually work.

bluebear42 said:On November 29th, there’s a Loksa game at the stadium. If Mamic ends up behind bars, maybe people will gather at the stadium again. It could be the first time this year we see at least 3,000 to 4,000 people at a Loksa vs. Dinamo match to start with, and maybe the locals might surprise us. It's just a few days before the derby, so in an ideal world, Dinamo would be reborn by Christmas.

Maybe we shouldn't "cook the pig while the rabbit is still in the woods."

I don't know, why rush? Why force ourselves into the damn stadium
especially against another team? Like everything is fine?
People forget about blacklists and bans way too fast.👎

But I guess that's just my opinion. It'll probably go however the group leaders decide anyway.

I think it makes more sense to try and rally everyone from places like Indianapolis or suburban outskirts
rather than heading to the stadium where we AREN'T WELCOME!

Not that it's my call, but if these investigations and legal stuff keep going, maybe we should think about skipping the derby. We might even need to boycott the Champions League glory this time, and I hope it's the last time we have to.

Or maybe we just wait for the winter break so things clear up. Then, despite the bans, we could try to wake up the dormant fans—including those who used to be part of the group—and celebrate the group's 30th anniversary properly.
But we definitely need to act if this doesn't stop. We need to take our club back.😍

Reading about them checking offshore accounts... I guess that feels like the final collapse.
But then again, nothing is certain until it's over.

Looks like it’ll end up being a friendly match honoring the hero city after all. Since they won't let us play there, it'll be an evening game over in Indianapolis at the home team's place
https://scontent-vie1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...f5&oe=56B48738

Edward Reyes25 said:We're doing okay, maybe 7 or 8 of our guys injured but they seem fine. There were about 80 Gypsies against our 25 or 30, and I think there were about 50 of us inside who didn't really know what was going down outside... the rest is just nonsense

Can you explain the bold part?

So, an extra 50 BBB members were inside the airport? And then the attack on the rest of the BBB happened just outside the airport grounds
Did I get that right?

Or were you talking about those 50 Boys who were being held in custody in Athens when the clashes happened near the airport?