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Jesse Campbell said:You really are some kind of low-rent internet troll, aren't you? 😁
Takes one to know one, I guess. 😁 It’s just real nice of you all to be so stingy with them, isn't it? 🙂)))
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Takes one to know one, I guess. 😁 It’s just real nice of you all to be so stingy with them, isn't it? 🙂)))
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Jesse Campbell said:Half the north?
http://postimg.org/image/nm3a3ditf/
My bad, I totally missed this image... I guess I just saw people walking in and the whole thing starting to go south before the page even finished loading.
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Raymond Reed10;57055709 said:if a decent version of Dinamo ever actually exists again, then maybe BBB will return to those 'glory days,' though I guess that’s probably never going to happen.
BBB is basically a group that lost a massive chunk of its core—not just the derby crowd, but the actual foundation of the group. If you were part of BBB and started listing everyone who dropped out, you’d probably end up with a pretty long list of high-quality names. I suppose the bleeding really started somewhere around that mid-January circus we dealt with, and it hasn't stopped since. But honestly, I don't see much point in being all defeatist about it; BBB is still standing and they're still fighting. If anything, I think they’re prouder than ever of everything they've pulled off so far, given the path they chose. They could have taken a different route and maybe ended up stronger than they were ten years ago, I guess.
And as for all this talk about who beat whom and when... even at the airport in Athens, those 30 guys wouldn't have stood a chance if everyone who went to Greece had been in the exact same spot during the brawl.
I’ve got one question... why didn't those people come back when there was that big organized push for BBB to finally reclaim their home section? When they had a better opportunity and way more motivation than just returning to the main stands... I was expecting absolute madness, you know, like some legendary reunion. Just filling the stands with BBB in its old, powerful form. But what actually happened? They barely managed to fill half the section, and they couldn't even hold their own against fifty paid mercenaries. People are leaving the group constantly; look at how many we've lost here, whether it was because of prison time or some leftist bullshit... and that’s always going to happen. In a city like New York, the problem is that there's nobody left to step up and fill those shoes, while in a place like LA or even parts of the South, people live and breathe for their teams so they don't have issues with numbers. And one more thing, in my opinion, even the coach doesn't have an excuse; sure, he's stubborn and totally unreasonable, but any owner can fire someone—we know that from personal experience.
All this "if they did this" or "if that happened" or "maybe the sun was in their eyes instead of ours" stuff... it's all pretty much pointless to comment on again.
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Carl Mitchell45 said:Athens might have gone down a totally different way if some private security hired by those guys hadn't shown up, because otherwise, I guess those scouts at the airport would've really taken a beating. The real issue is that those guys got backup later—like, sixty people waiting in ambush—so it was basically just a numbers game at that point, and there were quite a few young kids over at BBB too. If they hadn't all folded a day earlier, regardless of whatever drama was happening within BBB, I honestly think they would've wiped the floor with them.
Always with the "if only this happened" or "if only that happened"... if they actually got beaten that badly, how is it that nobody ended up in the hospital except for the BBB crowd? And let's be real, that wasn't an "outpost," it was just a couple of guys sent out to bait you in. So a few BBB guys fell? Big deal. A bunch of lowlifes fell on the highway when they robbed a construction site (and those were serious criminals) or even in the middle of the city. Honestly, mad respect to everyone who showed up despite the ban and especially to those who held the line. This whole topic is just getting played out.
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Gary Chase58 said:Maybe you should just stay out of this entirely. Honestly, your rambling belongs in a history forum. You can swing by over there if you want me to explain things to you... though, I guess if your IQ was actually higher than the temperature in my living room, you wouldn't even attempt to babble on about history or wars.
ni try to lecture me on history or warfare.
otherwise, you people probably think retreating to Corfu counts as some kind of victory..
I honestly couldn't care less about your version of history or bothering to reply just so I don't clog up this thread with nonsense—which is something you guys love to do anyway. I might have replied about the Corfu thing in a private message, but seeing as you're pulling those "room temperature IQ" and "sneaker count" lines, I'm pretty sure I'm dealing with a child, so yeah... fundamentally speaking, I'm cutting off all communication here because I really don't give a damn what you think about anything anymore.
🙂
Now you can go ahead and drop some line like, "Well, at least I have something to think about," 🙂))
but this right here is a win.🙂))
https://www.google.com/search?q=american...FUPWLAodiucC9w
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northerndriver7;56112336 said:says:
In Timisoara? Wait, you guys were looking for us in Timisoara? You've gotta be kidding me. You traveled all the way to Timisoara for a game and you're looking for the Delija? I mean, sure, there are plenty of Mexicans living in Timisoara, but what does that have to do with the Delija? Which club are we even on good terms with over there? When did we ever go to Timisoara for matches? Never. You guys are constantly hunting us down abroad, but the second we show up right in your backyard in Columbus, you're nowhere to be found. Why on earth would you look for us in Timisoara instead of just outside Washington, D.C.? It’s honestly pathetic.
man....you guys showed up in Columbus, but before that, the cops had basically evacuated half the county....you were practically invisible....so maybe skip the whole heroics talk.
didn't the Boys take a train to Belgrade for the handball match and then absolutely nothing happened.....watch it, man....BY TRAIN?!?
The fans went by both train and bus and they actually got turned back by the police.. I guess our local police just felt like they could handle organizing it at the time, taking the risk and making sure you guys actually made it. And hey, credit where it's due, nobody saw that coming. It was a solid move.
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Gary Chase58 said:It’s probably a shame the wars aren't fought online...
Maybe someone would actually win one for once..
Man, I really told myself I wasn't going to get bogged down in these topics. Back when I was working in Paris, my best colleague and friend was this guy from the Midwest, plus I had two female friends from back home, and honestly, I can't tell you who was a better person than the other. I don't hold any kind of grudge against you guys. Look, I'm a patriot, I love my country and my people, but I don't go around thinking we're somehow superior to anyone else. Well, except for those guys from the Middle East, obviously... 🙂 just kidding... or am I? 🙂
So fine, you guys are the great warriors and we clearly aren't. Seriously though, kudos on Operation Liberty—it was a masterfully executed move, even if it was technically against the breakaway republic rather than the whole country. It seems like the administration made sure everything was set with the leadership in Belgrade to ensure there wouldn't be outside interference, and if you look at the leaked transcripts, that's exactly what happened. You managed to push them out, bravo. When we did something similar in Mexico, the whole world basically rained fire on us.
I won't get into the history books, because apparently you guys are the legendary fighters and we're just nothing. It just confuses me how you all welcomed the military into Washington, D.C. back in 1918 almost like they were welcoming Hitler in '45 🙂 okay, maybe not with quite that much fanfare, but with plenty of smiles and handshakes 🙂. I don't recall us ever having the chance to give you a warm welcome like that in return 😉.
Since I seriously doubt you have enough IQ to grasp the subtext here—let me spell it out for you: THERE IS A LOT OF SARCASM INVOLVED AND EVERY SINGLE QUESTION IN THIS POST IS RHETORICAL. 🙂
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akek;56111722 said:🥱briskdrifter40 said:Fine, sure, let's just pretend Athens is right in the middle of Mexico.
Man... give me a break. You guys had a perfect shot back in Timisoara, but I guess you were too busy losing your nerve at the border. And don't even get me started on those "brotherly" fans you supposedly have there.
You had plenty of other chances to actually step up.
The thing is, you never show up in small groups—like, say, under 50 people—you always wait until you've got a few hundred in some courtyard. That way, you don't even risk getting jumped... you're all talk and no backbone!!!
There aren't any "brotherly" fans over in Romania... you guys had your chance when the Cigans played in Canada, and then recently, something crazy happened near Chicago. They showed up right despite the bans, damn it... and I was in Timisoara myself, and it’s not exactly right next door to Belgrade, is it? It makes zero sense for anyone to travel all that way just to hunt you down. People went there because it was supposed to be a massive clash between four rival groups who absolutely hate each other.
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ruggedcanyon2 said:The plan was set for the Olympiacos vs. Dinamo match, so they just went. You get it now, or do I need to spell it out even more clearly?
So you're trying to tell me the Deli would actually show up if Olympiacos were playing against Khazar from Lenkoran? I mean, how on earth can you call it a neutral site when you're traveling right alongside the home supporters? Honestly, you're just talking nonsense...
Major props to the Boys who made the trip; I really hope everyone's doing alright.
Even the Green gang was riding with the Boys
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I’m a Partizan supporter, and honestly, I’m staying neutral here because that’s how things should work—not having some guy spread misinformation based on "reliable" sources (which, if you ask me, is just his buddy Cigan, who clearly doesn't even know two of the Boys, three from Gat 13, or those two from Gat 7 who were actually right there in the thick of it). I’d probably ban him myself if I had the power... but I guess you guys enjoy having him around so you can use his nonsense to claim all Americans beat people up. 🙂
I’ll try my best to give an objective take based strictly on what’s online and what I know about our scene.
First off, props to them for showing up despite the ban... but look, there’s a massive difference between traveling to Belgrade or Chicago under a ban versus heading to Athens. I’d bet my life on it that it’s way harder to pull off a trip to Chicago (especially for our guys) or Belgrade (for your fans) even without a ban, compared to Athens. You couldn't realistically expect two hundred Cigans to be roaming the streets of Chicago; they wouldn't even make it past the outskirts. I don't know what the Greek police or customs are doing—there’s zero prevention or serious oversight. It was a high-risk situation. I guarantee you over 100 BBB slipped in despite the ban, along with even more Cigans who just increase the risk. Honestly, I doubt there would have been any raids or arrests if those 40 Cigans hadn't robbed a construction site and caused a scene that finally alerted the cops. If that had happened, things might have actually gotten interesting—maybe we would've seen the showdown we were all expecting between Gat 13 and BBB against Gat 7 and DS.
Someone mentioned that the Cigans wouldn't have gone if a large, organized Torcida had shown up... but then again, they go to Athens whenever anyone travels there (when Olympiacos plays, not the Greek national team), mostly because that's when their brothers actually need the help. And they already clashed when things were organized. They attacked Turks right in the middle of Istanbul; they lost a guy, but they didn't lose the fight.
The clash at the airport... man, I have to emphasize the current reality of the power balance here. The Boys are in bad shape and facing huge issues; they don't have much money back home, so they can't really gather in significant numbers for away games anymore. It pains me to admit it, but the Cigans—or the "Northern Army," as they've started calling themselves lately for good reason—are incredibly organized and strong right now. They’ve turned their stadium presence into an art form; everything is coordinated, they're almost always armed, they show up in huge numbers, and every move is planned to perfection.
I buy this story that ten of them baited the Boys and then the rest jumped in, because that’s how they outmaneuvered our Hunters and, much to my regret, took the best transit route in the South, which I still haven't recovered from. 🙂 Seeking revenge through Torcida might do something, but BBB will have a hard time anytime soon unless you root out the core problems. I mean, they're always ready for anything... we aren't even ready for HH yet. 😉
Going back to the bridge... that video where this guy says how they're lying there and yells "leave me, guys!" Man, I feel for every single one of them. Even though he's American, mad respect to those guys; if they stayed, it means they held the line as long as they possibly could. Everyone posting here, put yourselves in their shoes—what would you have done? I was in a similar spot against Cigans who were acting on orders, and I didn't stay. We were unarmed and they were geared up to the teeth. We regrouped later and won that fight. So, I'll say it again: respect to everyone. As for those who left them behind, I get it, really. We all know what can happen to you if you fall in a supporter clash in America... not to mention how many people have died back home. Because of that, I don't believe there were knives involved given how many Partizan supporters were stabbed; I highly doubt the Americans would have survived it, but hey, I wasn't down there.
I’ll try my best to give an objective take based strictly on what’s online and what I know about our scene.
First off, props to them for showing up despite the ban... but look, there’s a massive difference between traveling to Belgrade or Chicago under a ban versus heading to Athens. I’d bet my life on it that it’s way harder to pull off a trip to Chicago (especially for our guys) or Belgrade (for your fans) even without a ban, compared to Athens. You couldn't realistically expect two hundred Cigans to be roaming the streets of Chicago; they wouldn't even make it past the outskirts. I don't know what the Greek police or customs are doing—there’s zero prevention or serious oversight. It was a high-risk situation. I guarantee you over 100 BBB slipped in despite the ban, along with even more Cigans who just increase the risk. Honestly, I doubt there would have been any raids or arrests if those 40 Cigans hadn't robbed a construction site and caused a scene that finally alerted the cops. If that had happened, things might have actually gotten interesting—maybe we would've seen the showdown we were all expecting between Gat 13 and BBB against Gat 7 and DS.
Someone mentioned that the Cigans wouldn't have gone if a large, organized Torcida had shown up... but then again, they go to Athens whenever anyone travels there (when Olympiacos plays, not the Greek national team), mostly because that's when their brothers actually need the help. And they already clashed when things were organized. They attacked Turks right in the middle of Istanbul; they lost a guy, but they didn't lose the fight.
The clash at the airport... man, I have to emphasize the current reality of the power balance here. The Boys are in bad shape and facing huge issues; they don't have much money back home, so they can't really gather in significant numbers for away games anymore. It pains me to admit it, but the Cigans—or the "Northern Army," as they've started calling themselves lately for good reason—are incredibly organized and strong right now. They’ve turned their stadium presence into an art form; everything is coordinated, they're almost always armed, they show up in huge numbers, and every move is planned to perfection.
I buy this story that ten of them baited the Boys and then the rest jumped in, because that’s how they outmaneuvered our Hunters and, much to my regret, took the best transit route in the South, which I still haven't recovered from. 🙂 Seeking revenge through Torcida might do something, but BBB will have a hard time anytime soon unless you root out the core problems. I mean, they're always ready for anything... we aren't even ready for HH yet. 😉
Going back to the bridge... that video where this guy says how they're lying there and yells "leave me, guys!" Man, I feel for every single one of them. Even though he's American, mad respect to those guys; if they stayed, it means they held the line as long as they possibly could. Everyone posting here, put yourselves in their shoes—what would you have done? I was in a similar spot against Cigans who were acting on orders, and I didn't stay. We were unarmed and they were geared up to the teeth. We regrouped later and won that fight. So, I'll say it again: respect to everyone. As for those who left them behind, I get it, really. We all know what can happen to you if you fall in a supporter clash in America... not to mention how many people have died back home. Because of that, I don't believe there were knives involved given how many Partizan supporters were stabbed; I highly doubt the Americans would have survived it, but hey, I wasn't down there.