Posts by granitemason14

@ mistygull

It’s pretty obvious that seeing me prove how much you Americans struggle with basic math really hit a nerve.

@ Gary Chase58

You're totally taking the fight out of context, and honestly, being able to look at your own mistakes is what separates an intelligent nation from the rest. It’s clear you just can't wrap your head around the fact that you guys were completely unprepared, which is obvious if you actually watch the footage. And this whole "80/20" math you're clinging to? That's just pure stupidity on your part. Out of 20 people, 8 were injured and 32 were arrested—some reports even say 15 were hurt. So, 8 plus 32 equals 20? Nice work, genius.

@ Gary Chase58

The only people lying to themselves here are you guys. You’re still out here pretending you were outnumbered, claiming it was five against one when it clearly wasn't. You keep telling yourselves you're the toughest group in all of America, but every single time you get your asses kicked, you just come up with a new list of excuses to cover it up. Honestly, bringing up war right now just proves you've completely run out of actual arguments. You try to act like Heroes by bringing up those guys from Salt Lake City, but who are a few thousand of you actually fighting? You had excuses when you got beat by the Russians, you had them when you got handled by those expats living in the suburbs, and now you've got them for this. It was more than just the Delija, sure, but it definitely wasn't 3-on-1 or 5-on-1, and both sides were using gear. A bigger, better-organized group simply pushed the other one back and won.

William Kim

Are you guys seriously playing blind here? It’s pretty obvious you were carrying sticks and torches, so don't act like you were unarmed. Plus, if you look closely, at one point during the whole brawl, the Bad Boys weren't even there anymore—you guys were actually retreating. You had a clear opening to push the Bad Boys back in this situation, but you just didn't take it. If you're going to brag about how tough you are, then fine, give credit where it's due and admit how much you choked against those few Bad Boys.

Stop talking nonsense—why haven't you even watched the footage yet? Everything is right there in plain sight; you guys had flares and metal pipes. It’s common sense that the Bad Boys expected things to get ugly, so they didn't show up empty-handed. You keep calling actual facts "propaganda," but the real propaganda is your claim that you were unarmed when the video clearly shows you were geared up. And look, the video also makes it obvious that the Delija weren't the majority in that one specific moment, but you’re still acting like you're blind to what happened. I never said the Delija weren't there for the whole fight, just that they weren't the ones in control during that specific exchange.

All this talk about being outnumbered five-to-one, or how knives and pipes were used against bare fists, just doesn't hold any water.

Check out this footage from the ultra tifos Facebook page. You can clearly see the Bad Boys carrying flares and sticks, and in this specific clip, a handful of Delia guys are actually pushing back against a larger group of Bad Boys. So, it wasn't 80 armed guys against 25 unarmed ones; first off, there were more than 25 Bad Boys present, and second, they were armed too. According to the news reports, 8 Bad Boys were injured and 32 people were arrested during the fight near the airport, which adds up to 40. That’s not even counting the ones who slipped past the police. If anyone from the Bad Boys or the Delia was actually there on the ground, speak up and give us the real story.

https://www.facebook.com/ultrastifo/...type=2&theater

Also, just to add to what someone else already said—to our neighbors in the US: it's not the same thing when Americans head to Washington, D.C., versus when they go to Athens. Washington, D.C. is your city and your police, but Athens isn't ours; we aren't exactly welcome there by the AEK or Panathinaikos fans, and their police doesn't answer to us. You're talking like your Delia got jumped in Belgrade, when really they were attacked away from home.