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Bad Boys in Fans ·
casualwolf48 said:I celebrate Dynamo's goals, and I always will. I remember how much joy I felt back in '83 during my first away trip to New York City, and that feeling stayed with me throughout the whole eighties. It’s the same joy I felt getting my Los Angeles FC tattoo back in '85—even though it caused me nothing but endless trouble and harassment from the US Army in '88, I wore it with pride. Or how I felt watching Dynamo score from '91 to '95 while traveling around in my National Guard uniform. Back then, I couldn't make it to the matches because there were far more important things to handle. Because of that name on my skin, I was persecuted and harassed by the police in the old days; they gave me nothing but grief. All this means is that I’ll keep celebrating Dynamo's wins and goals, because I grew up in an era when being a Dynamo fan was hard—it was practically anti-establishment. Everywhere we went, people hated us, hunted us down. And look, Dynamo doesn't belong to Jerry Jones or anyone else running the show; they are just temporary occupiers. They’ll leave, just like all those crooked officials and thieves eventually do. No, Dynamo is mine. I’ve been going to their games for over 30 years, loving them just as much as the first day, and you can't tell me I shouldn't. You can't try to make me feel guilty. Because of my loyalty to Dynamo, I’ve dealt with jail time in Paris and spent a year being banned from seeing the cops. That’s not exactly a fun way to spend your time in your late 40s, and I'm pushing 50 now. My people know where I stand; they know I'm against Jerry Jones. But I love Dynamo, and I always will. I'll still be here long after Jerry Jones and his cronies are gone. Some of you would sing "I hate Dynamo" at a European match that has nothing to do with the club, yet I'm supposedly not allowed to celebrate their goals? What kind of pathetic apology is that? You sang "I hate Dynamo" because it was right before a derby. You sang it because you hate them. You’ve always hated them, and you were the ones breaking our fake brotherhoods back in the eighties and attacking us. Go ahead, hate Dynamo if you want, but it hurts. Over these 30 years, I've learned that everyone hates us—the authorities, the club management, even the lack of support in our own city. That's what hurts. But if I want to cheer for Dynamo's goals, I will. Because Dynamo is bigger than Jerry Jones, bigger than the board, bigger than the federation. That name stands for more than all of that. It stands for the kids who died during the war with the Dynamo name on their lips. It's about pride, defiance, and above all, stubbornness. Defiance against everyone and everything.

You're wasting your breath explaining this to idiots and morons. For them, nothing is "ultra" anymore. Supporting Dynamo isn't "ultra," and supporting America isn't "ultra" either.

The real problem is that hardly anyone uses their own brain these days.

Nowadays, "ultra" culture is just fighting with strangers on the internet instead of actually traveling to away games—even without formal organization—just to pick up a fight and a beating along the way.

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Bad Boys in Fans ·
Jesse Ramirez3 said:The fans in the stands are a different story altogether; you can't just group everyone together, and generalizing is always a mistake. But let's be honest, this city picked up its small-town mentality from the Canadians—the very same people who are the first to defend Mamić and claim he's some kind of legend. If I had the chance, I’d probably be stealing too. That’s why you’ve had this specific type of politician running the show since forever, while the looting just keeps happening unabated.

Sorry for the off-topic, analogheron19, but please, carry on with your little debate about the past and trying to figure out who’s right and who’s wrong.

The level of stupidity found among BBB supporters is honestly unmatched anywhere else in the world.
You talk about the BBB mentality. Seriously? How much has BBB actually sold out? Let's be real: over 90% of you would sell yourselves out in a heartbeat for a handful of pocket change.
Is it really the fault of those people from Canada that you’ve turned into such an incompetent group that everyone loves to mock? You've always been nothing but actors—just average people with zero substance, living only to make fun of someone else. Just take the money $1.75 and get lost. I've watched this play out with my own eyes for years, and frankly, your mindset has been trash for a long time now.

It's because of people like you and that guy Drew Booth60 that I actually feel good seeing Mamić screw you over. Honestly, he should go even harder since you guys are acting like idiots.
And it's not just him; it's Bandić and all the rest of them. When you act like cattle, you deserve to be treated like it.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
quietowl152 said:Things haven't changed since back then. We show up to the games just like we did before, and we cheer just like we always have.

Look, if you actually specified what you meant by "back then"—like, was that last year or over a decade ago?—
this would actually be a pretty clear answer. 👍
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Scott Jones9 said:The issue is that everyone knows everything about us—partly because of this forum—while those guys manage to sweep all their own mess under the rug. Honestly, I couldn't care less if those idiots, the hardcore fans, or the hooligans are agents or not; an idiot is an idiot regardless of who they work for. But worrying about our situation this much is just exhausting... Valenti, lock this thread as soon as possible.

It’s hardly a surprise that people know what's going on; there have been public exposés before, for instance. It's the same with us—we "know" everything about everyone. We all "know" which specific people are supposed to be undercover, how certain guys run things, etc. Personally, I don't give a damn about what someone does in their private life. Whether they were a dealer, a waiter, or a chef, it doesn't move the needle for me. It's just basic math: you're statistically more likely to find ten dealers in a crowd of 10,000 than you are in a group of 100.
Everyone should just focus on themselves and their own circles.
But if everything used to be reported transparently against one side or the other, and the truth was always told, I don't see any reason why we shouldn't write down exactly how things stand right now.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Raymond Reed10 said:🤣 who is he to expect anyone to answer his questions or any of yours🤣 when you actually step up and go toe-to-toe with Jerry Maguire by name—just like the guys who have led the Bad Boys for six straight years—then maybe you’ll have some ground to stand on.

It doesn't matter who he is. Why would it? He wasn't the one making the calls. It was always obvious that they’d release all those statements against this guy or that guy, especially when targeting Real Madrid.
Personally, I’m not interested in drawing that line you're talking about—standing against someone for six years only to turn around later and act like everything is fine, as if those six years of being treated like garbage never happened.
Same goes for me; I'd rather skip showing up in Athens entirely than go through what some people had to endure, only to justify it later by claiming that "showing up" is the only way to be a true fan. That's nonsense. Sometimes you just need to use your head and be smart instead of rushing blindly into things.
That's my point to you, man—this is the internet, after all. In the real world, you can't just charge ahead without thinking. It's not worth it.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:It’s always the same thing... You mention a team from the bottom tier of the league—the one that basically split off into a new division over a decade ago. Or you bring up that group that only ever existed on a single banner ten years back. Then there's the crew that didn't even bother boycotting in the first place. And of course, he can't help but name the squad that partially stopped showing up even before all this mess started.

He just threw out a bunch of random names and went on a complete tangent to support his point.

Look, I wasn't mocking anyone. It honestly never crossed my mind to make fun of some kid who actually has the drive to show up. In this day and age, having that kind of willpower is pretty much a rare thing for most of us. If you want to point fingers, go after the people who were actually being jerks. You’ve got a new target right there, though—this guy making jokes about Athens. Anyone could have made that trip for an away game.

Look, you’re doing that thing again where you bring up stuff that doesn't actually matter to the question he asked. You listed a few big-name teams, but most of them are just groups that played a major role over the last five, ten, or twenty years—which is irrelevant here.

If you’re actually hip to all this—if you really "get the vibe"—then just say it's done. Look, if someone asks you a direct question, give them an equally direct answer. No need to dance around it.
I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who cares about this. Honestly, it doesn't matter how many times they try to cover their tracks or backtrack on what they said—it's still a massive load of crap.

I’m not exactly a regular on these forums, and I’m certainly not here to play defense for anyone. I don't go out of my way to provoke people, either. If someone finds his questions annoying or off-putting, well, that’s just between them. That's a different issue entirely.
Bad Boys in Fans ·
Jonathan Barnes5 said:Just ban yourself already. You've spewed so much mental garbage that you're honestly impossible to deal with.

What nonsense is he even talking about? From where I’m sitting, he’s just asking very straightforward questions. Whether people liked his answers or not, the guy actually hit on quite a few points.

A few days ago, you all were doing the exact same thing—tearing someone apart just because they asked if there was organized transportation to the games. As soon as he asks a question, suddenly he's an idiot, asking if he can go to the store or use the restroom. It’s as if you all think everything has been perfectly organized and seamless for the last ten years, like things have always been totally normal.