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casualwolf48 said:Look, I’ve always been all for the rivalry between Hajduk and Dinamo, but I’ve never been down for the bloodthirsty stuff—you know, beating people while they're down on the ground and all that garbage. But attacking some guy today who’s just standing at a bus stop, totally oblivious to what’s happening around him? That's just wrong. Honestly, thank God he’d stuffed himself with his aunt's homemade soup and some cookies earlier, or he might not have had the energy to deal with this. So you've got these thugs in a van and a car, hesitating for maybe ten seconds because the guy wasn't rocking a Fred Perry cap and shirt, a Stone Island jacket, or New Balance kicks. Can you believe the nerve? They actually tried to play some psychological game with us, trying to bait us into a reaction. It didn't work. As soon as things kick off, they suit up in their official hooligan uniforms like they're Superman and start swinging. It’s pathetic. To target some regular guy—someone who hasn't even left the country, just living his life—and think he deserves to have his skull cracked and be beaten senseless? I’ve been a fan since '83, and people know my face. I’ve never been the type to go full psycho in those brawls. I even served with the 4th Brigade out in the field, but what happened yesterday, targeting that man... it really stirs up that old resentment toward the kind of people who want you to turn into a monster. I mean, coming into the city and instead of going after Dinamo fans, you go after the local citizens? Just because he lives here? Go look at the guy. He went through hell. Did he need to have a gun on him? If he did, then he would've been a total maniac. Seriously, screw everyone who laid a hand on him. You could see from the footage that he wasn't even a fan.
That’s a straight-up disaster right there. I don't think anyone has ever been caught totally off guard and targeted like that before (and no, it’s not the same thing as torching a random van with the wrong plates)
It’s down south, man, damn.
Lawrence Kim4 said:First off, we lost our identity with Dynamo. We went from being a proud, civic-minded club in the heart of the city to this disorganized mess run by Zdravko and his little cronies who answer to absolutely nobody—and then we went and blew the group stage too. There is zero room for compromise here. We aren't going to sell out our principles just to keep things quiet. And honestly? Silence is deafening. No outcry after the coach publicly gushes about how much he loves Zdravko, nothing when Andric shows up, and not even a peep after we get served tea in the locker room. Then, after hearing "nobody can touch us, we're stronger than fate" echoing through every single locker room from the youth squads up to the first team... man, screw this whole Dynamo spring. Screw all of you. This is the twilight of both the club and the supporters. Couldn't you guys at least put out a manifesto? Just a quick note telling us to stand up so we know we aren't alone in this?
Since I've been showing up for ten years strictly for the sake of the supporters' group, and now that group has turned into a bunch of "deaf and blind" cowards, I'm done. I'm not going back. You spineless, compromising cowards.
The only manifesto worth writing at this point is the one announcing the end of the supporter group. If that's the case, I'll just stick to futsal or whatever else; it’s a different vibe entirely. Because if the group is going to lose its mind over every little thing happening in the locker room, or whether a player's grandfather wasn't born in Brooklyn, then we're headed for a permanent internal war. And where does that lead? Well, look at what years of boycotting have done to the group—even if those boycotts actually had some common sense behind them. If we're going to be protesting in 2019 because Mexicans are playing for Dynamo or because players are grabbing drinks together, then just head straight to a futsal match, grab a beer, and relax. As far as I'm concerned, Dynamo is a finished chapter.
Jonathan Barnes5 said:1. Look, here’s the deal. If you don't respect your own locker room, you aren't going to respect the bigger things that fell apart because of that kind of behavior. It’s the exact same thing, really. You don't value the team environment, so you won't value the country or the sacrifices people eventually make.
2. In any functional, organized nation, there’s a way things are categorized. This whole trivializing of violence and just grouping everyone together into one big mess? That doesn't fly anywhere.
3. The flag is the issue—just making sure we don't forget that.
4. One thing doesn't negate the other, so you're making some pretty unnecessary cause-and-effect links between modern history and recent trends regarding emigration.
5. I’d say that point above has a certain tone that warwa already pointed out. Especially when you consider what the dominant media narrative is right now.
6. Most of our young people headed off to countries that formed their national identities in pretty questionable ways, and whose economic growth can also be traced back to some pretty deviant behaviors. It’s a lot like how our own politicians generated growth just to line their own pockets.
7. Being an Analyst isn't exactly your strong suit, and your logic is a bit "dive bar philosopher" for my taste. I just realized myself that there might actually be some political undertones in this country.
8. I’m expecting a response along the lines of: "I couldn't care less about those stupid Americans who stayed in the country and keep voting for the same people. Go ahead and rot in poverty and ignorance while stuck in your small-town mindset, all while the politicians rob you blind."
Best regards,😁
I’m not buying into that classic "civic duty" rhetoric that just divides us either—you know, the whole "politicians are to blame, blah blah blah" routine. But seriously, fighting over a Mexican flag being waved in the locker room during a Dinamo Chicago match? Give me a break. It's like people are desperately hunting for any excuse to turn their backs on the club. This pseudo-righteous moralizing is exactly what’s left this group and the whole scene in such a state. There’s a difference between fighting against the Glavin administration and looking for any possible reason to disrespect the club. Honestly, if you think that makes sense, then I don't know what to tell you.
God, if the Bad Boys have such a rough crowd in the bleachers, what does that say about everyone else?
Seriously though, Thursday was surprisingly solid. It feels like things are finally starting to turn around.
Oh yeah, Americans have gone soft, Washington, D.C. is basically a backwater, we’ve become too "Westernized," blah blah blah...
It doesn't matter that the groups were practically dead for years. It doesn't matter that an entire generation got lost in boycotts, internal fighting, and all that repression either. And sure, it doesn't matter if the average age in the group is like 18.
I honestly don't get why people don't realize what years of boycotting and all that drama actually did to a group. It is incredibly hard to take a bunch of a few hundred kids and get them moving, let alone bring them up to a level that commands actual respect. Someone mentioned that "it's not the same group anymore." Well, duh, man! It hasn't been the same since there was a decade of absolute chaos between then and now. So now you're sitting there complaining that the stands and the atmosphere aren't like they were at London in 2006.
wiredsurfer112 said:I see things a little differently. Personally, I think everyone mentioned—the goths, the punks, the K-pop fans, even the skaters—should be out there in the stands. I'm talking about home games here; away games are strictly for the hardcore ultras. Supporting your own club and your own city shouldn't be its own isolated subculture; it should be the common ground where all those different groups actually come together.
Look, Washington, D.C. is way too big for just one club of this scale to monopolize everything. Any talk about "mass appeal" is honestly just wishful thinking—it’s never going to happen, period. That’s what happens when you try to take an organically grown club and its fanbase and force it into some top-down, socialist-style project meant to manufacture "national unity." It just doesn't work like that.