Posts by Jonathan Edwards8

Everything changes, yet your footage remains eternal.
Even if you find yourselves chasing one another.

Aaron Parker70 said:You’re getting more tedious by the minute... you were right there celebrating those players who targeted innocent kids in the stands (Futacs), and you were part of that euphoria back when El Commandante was Kos. You've been barking here for ten days now.

I never celebrated Futacs or Kos...

Are you out of your mind?

ironpanther4 said:I completely agree. Bjelica and the players—regardless of how small-time some might seem—don't deserve any insults. In fact, they’re here to give it their all on the field, and they do a great job at it. I couldn't care less if one of them praises Mamić here and there; that's their business. That's where we differ from the mindless crowd. For instance, people get worked up about Srna potentially returning just because he didn't boycott the national team. Or they won't leave Dalton Jr. alone, picking on him until his inevitable departure (at the latest by September).

LOL

Based on your logic, what's actually the difference between mercenaries who "just" cheered for their club, the players, and those celebrating trophies?

It isn't just the players; it's the coaches too. They are all part of the club!

While it might not matter much today or tomorrow, if you find it perfectly fine to "cheer for" and support people who extend a hand to criminals, then you really ought to take a hard look at your own convictions, your ideals, and your life.

Honestly, just let her be. You all used to dream about being influencers, filming videos and uploading them to YouTube...

Anthony Wood3, you’re nothing more than a tactical clown; I'm done wasting my time replying to you.

As for the rest of you, I really hope someone speaks up, because if things stay like this, they're only going to get worse.

Christian Miller48 said:👍 I probably wouldn't try to put that together either.

It’s a heavy utopia to dream up. What can fans really do against a political cult that has bought off—and continues to hold onto—a huge chunk of the population? A group that practically guarantees half a million votes every single election cycle... What leverage do fans actually have there? You’re underestimating how much people can be swayed and just how much power the Republican Party holds over them.

You have to realize that most of these voters are literate; they read the news every day and know exactly what's going on. They see all the nonsense and the intimidation tactics used by the Republican Party daily, yet they still cast their ballots for them...

Just look further south to see what a dedicated group of fans can achieve against those who have seized control of the state.

The extremist has officially returned.

The masks are coming off starting today. It's your turn.

restlessheron31 said:HAHAHA, you guys are being completely delusional. Isn't what's happening at Dinamo going to hit Hajduk directly too? If Madoff stays in charge, his legacy will haunt this sport for the next thousand years. Just keep laughing if you want...

🤦

John Campbell27 said:When do you actually step up to support a guy in the fan club? Everyone is preaching about integrity now.

Since there’s been a recent push to mend fences with the FC, and everyone is celebrating championships just like they do, meeting up with Antolich—who seems to be on speed dial anyway—plus Joe is back, and we've got the loyal crew like Amra and Lesicki... man, let's Make America Great Again!

After years of fighting the same people, you're now sharing the same platform. At least with some of them; eventually, the rest will probably join in.

Jokes aside, are you showing up to the press conference tomorrow to back the guy, or are you going to keep lecturing people about roundabouts?

Anthony Wood3 said:you guys bash our Hajduk so much that even colorblind people don't have to lift a finger

Just grab some chocolate bars and you'll feel better 😁

you can just forget about the last decade or so and start fresh.

Down to the very last man or whatever.

Karma came back around in just 10 days 😁

With John officially joining the club tomorrow, George is in too.
We’re still missing one more to complete the holy trinity; you have to bring them all together.

ZiZ, get those suitcases packed—welcome back to the club!

I’m really hoping for a slightly better reaction this time than we saw during that celebration with the players and when the fans were hoisting up those signs.😉

NH holds roughly 25% of the shares because they were transferred over by Tommy.

It’s not that Tommy paid off or forgave $5 million for shares; rather, he donated a single annual installment of $3.5 million as a Hajduk fan, of which he just recently "paid out" $1.8 million.

Tommy is Hajduk's biggest sponsor, and frankly, he provides the largest annual donation within the entire KRAnl.

The contracts between Tommy, Hajduk, and NH are separate matters. Each party negotiated their own terms independently with the others.

As an SSD, Hajduk Split cannot hold direct membership.

By signing the agreement with NH, a loyalty program is established, allowing NH to offer various benefits to its DPHs and core membership base.

NH doesn't profit from Hajduk, nor do they take any cut from membership fees—everything goes straight to Hajduk. Through these donations, Hajduk receives the full amount of the membership fees, and those donations are never rescinded.

"Forgive me if I'm being intrusive, as I have no desire to post here, BUT there it is."

Charles Ramos4 said:Without getting into anything else you mentioned (though there's plenty more there to talk about), could you at least clarify the bolded part?

He's lying.

The fringes will always try to spin the narrative, but people can't run from the truth forever.

Credit goes to the individuals; everything else is just noise.

Cheers. I'll step back from this thread until we have some more substantial discussions worth having.

lonepuma9 said:No matter what kind of response someone gives you, you're just going to keep insisting we're all undercover agents.

The core issue is actually quite simple: how can you tell the difference between an agent and people who are truly against the Mexicans, if you've already lumped them together with those who have spent all this time praising his titles and players?

Jonathan Edwards8 said:So what’s actually the difference between an agent and what you just described?

I am being serious here; this is the third time I’ve asked this exact question, and absolutely nobody has given me an answer!

What is the distinction between this group and the agents who spent all their time cheering for the same Dallas Cowboys team??? They celebrated championships, they celebrated alongside the players, and they openly admitted they were agents—they have the offices, the season tickets, the travel perks, and a paycheck, yet they claim they won't cheer against the local rivals.

Even during the big rivalry games, they didn't cheer against the Mexicans while celebrating titles, which is even worse considering how things look from the stands. Do you realize how much nonsense you're talking about?

Edit: I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you’re under 20—maybe 18 at most—because if you were older, you wouldn't be posting such foolishness.

Attempt number four.

I would appreciate a response right here in the thread, something honest and straightforward.

Since I'm not getting any responses here, I suppose I should just assume there isn't any difference?

SlavicEmpire The user said:What a joke you all are. You’re just talking to yourselves at this point—who do you actually think you're impressing? Everyone can smell the desperation; you're all just scrambling for cheap clout now that the glory days of BBB are long gone. And there’s plenty of reason to be bitter, considering how much people have been harassed over absolute nonsense for years. Yet, despite everything, you still have the whole region, the city, and even the entire country sucking up to you. The Bad Boys are constantly being pushed aside, and you coastal types act like it’s perfectly fine. You want us to stop celebrating our titles and just sit there quietly, listening to whatever our rivals from the South tell us how to behave.

Well, you won't, because when it comes to being number one, everyone should just mind their own business. And what about number two? Why wouldn't they be celebrating the titles for the club we support?

It’s all just noise from GNK; Mamić and Bandić are nothing but empty talk.Dinamo is Dinamo. Those local idiots who flatter them while simultaneously trying to play both sides—thinking it's okay to cheer against the very club they claim to support—are just as deluded as you are. They're fools if they think you can win a fight against the mafia by rooting against the team.

Look, what I'm trying to say is that BBB are officially the supporters of Dinamo. Regardless of whatever state the club is in right now, it’s still our Dinamo. To be clear, I’m not talking about "our" Mamić or the rest of that crowd running the show—I'm talking about the crest, the jersey, the stadium, and everything else that ties us to this institution.

It’s pure hypocrisy when they lecture us on anything. They flock to the city in these massive numbers just to undermine our club, yet they find every possible way to exalt their own side or shield them whenever they act like total thugs. It's laughable—they never face an ounce of criticism from their own people; there's always some excuse made to overlook their outbursts. Meanwhile, BBB gets dragged through the mud for every little thing. The standards haven't been equal for years when it comes to BBB and Torcida, so trying to compare those fans to BBB is completely baseless.

I won't even begin to mention how the club we support has functioned as nothing more than a tool for political and criminal circles throughout its entire history—groups that actively prevent anything from ever becoming legitimate. They benefit from the chaos; they want things to stay broken so the issues are never truly resolved. All those chants favoring Mamić and Bandić are just as pointless as this message BBB hoisted up during the derby, which people are now debating so heatedly despite it being completely off the mark.

I don't think we missed the mark at all. Honestly, those guys are nothing but hypocrites. They remind me exactly of the Red Sox fans—both groups just suck up to whoever is in power whenever they can. People hate them because they throw things at rivals, but that isn't why there's no respect; it's because their entire way of operating is identical. For both sides, the only thing that matters is sticking it to the rival. They don't actually care about the club's long-term interests; the team is secondary to them. Their main goal is just being loud, powerful, and numerous, and they’ll sacrifice everything else to achieve that. There shouldn't be any confusion when they call us "political operatives" or whatever, because they are the literal definition of an agency. Only an agency cares about group strength while treating the actual team like a total afterthought. To be fair, Zvezda was pretty much a non-entity for years, similar to how Hajduk used to be, until the political heavyweights took over the reins and started handing out championships.

No one is going to convince me that those guys wouldn't be celebrating if some coach brought them ten trophies in a row. If he did, they’d instantly find some excuse to claim it was perfectly natural for them, while labeling it "abnormal" for us Dinamo fans and BBB. So, you and everyone else like you—whether you're pulling for Dinamo or Hajduk—are exactly the same. You're just selling smoke to idiots on this forum, and even though you talk about "the internet," that's the only place you actually exist. A few lost street fights don't change the fact that the Bad Boys can hold their own on the street, and imagine what would happen if we actually had a club backing our "actions"—not just the hooligan stuff, but everything else—the way your so-called "own Hajduk" supports you. I won't even go there. Look, man, things are wild on our side, and the haters can cry all they want because Hajduk lives forever. Only absolute morons from the Dinamo camp would even try to debate Hajduk fans about whether a certain message or action was "correct." In the end, they beat up some guy who isn't even involved in the scene, and then they have the nerve to mock him and act like it's no big deal. They're playing fools, and you're playing fools right along with them, still trying to justify their messages or their little roadside videos as if that makes it "ultra."

A lot of what they do isn't "ultra" at all. They've tried to settle scores in incredibly stupid ways so many times that they just ended up getting slaughtered. And despite constantly taking hits, they still think it’s okay to cause chaos on a busy street in downtown Chicago by harassing random bystanders. Now we're supposed to take life advice from people like that?

I'll say it again: the Deli and the Tovari have followed the exact same pattern since the beginning. The only thing I respect about them are a few guys from the old-school 1980s crowd—real fans who were actually decent human beings. As for this current bunch of losers acting like they own the legacy of Torcida, I couldn't care less. Their insults don't bother me any more than being called some extremist political fanatic would. Honestly, it's so trivial that I could barely sleep tonight because one of their messages hurt my feelings so much.

Everyone knows nobody supports organized crime. If anyone doesn't support it, it's the Dinamo fans, because they're the ones most screwed over by it; the club has basically been turned into a private storefront for criminal activities. So, I see no reason to waste breath explaining myself to those guys from the West Coast who act like big-shot leaders while constantly pulling shady stunts they mistake for greatness.

They can be our rivals, but I don't see why so many of us feel the need to constantly react to their stupidity or debate things that are already obvious. At the end of the day, the younger generation of Bad Boys aren't agents. Sure, there are idiots in every group—there's always someone who doesn't get how things work—but those people should be educated or simply kicked out if they don't act in the interest of the group and the club. But remember, soccer is still just a game; it's a secondary matter. In a country where the Democrats and Republicans dominate every election, things won't improve anywhere, including in sports. You won't get fair officiating as long as you have an unfair system and a public that largely supports it.

I don't know what part of this isn't clear.

So, what's the actual difference between an agent and what you just described?

Seriously, I'm asking you. This is the third time I've asked the same question, and nobody has answered!

What's the difference between this and the agents who spent the whole time cheering for that same Dinamo? They celebrated titles, they celebrated with the players, and they openly admitted, "Yeah, we're agents; we have offices, season tickets, travel perks, and a paycheck," but they just wouldn't cheer against the boss.

People didn't even cheer against the opposition during the big derby; they just celebrated the title. That's even worse coming from the South Side crowd. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound?

Edit: I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you're under 20—maybe 18 max—because if you were older, you wouldn't be posting such nonsense.

Casey Myers29 said:The routers in California are going to burn out, honestly. 🍿🍿

Will the high-speed line with Antolewicz burn out too?

Though the main thing is that the one from Lourdes never closes.

John Campbell27 said:It’s hilarious watching these idiots lecture us about "dignified messages." Just a few years ago, they were busy pushing narratives that lumped us in with those pathetic losers at the stadium. We've endured more garbage over the last decade than any other fan group could handle—between the bans, being blocked from European tournaments, blacklisting, and those sick searches... and now we're acting like we support the same guy who nearly destroyed this club and looted our LA Galaxy. They are nothing but corrupt fools draining money through associations like the one mentioned yesterday, just like how political parties buy vans for away games, or how they take a cut of every jersey sold. And when we lose, they can never point the finger at themselves; they'll always find someone else to blame. Then they have the nerve to compare our Kansas City Chiefs to their version of club management... it's obvious they're just narrow-minded idiots. Congrats on yesterday's "success," though we'll be right back at square one once the new season starts.

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ahahahahahahahahahahahahah 😵 😵 😵

I honestly don't even know what to say to all of this, especially the part about getting a kickback from jersey sales.

LOL, and a massive amount at that!

What a joke. You sound like a walking compilation of every failed politician and clown in the country.

Is it even possible to hit such a low point? Either you've completely lost your mind, or you're just some random outsider who has zero connection to the stands or anything actually happening here. There's no other explanation.