Jose White11 said:Fair enough, thanks!
Let me make things a little easier on the moderators today. gentledriver3's insult #1 :
I’m going to toss everything I can’t manage to throw away straight into the intellectual trash heap—and yeah, that includes you. Did you pull that thing back? Evolved monkeys.? Cijeli post :
gentledriver3 is throwing out yet another insult in that top post, on top of everything else. Evolutionary monkeys.And that insult basically boils down to equating me, as an individual, with... Total intellectual trash.)
gentledriver3’s insult #2:
You're lying. Bunch of lying lowlifes.You’re lying through your teeth and you don't even realize it. It's pathological.
Marshall wasn't a tyrant. And he certainly didn't look at people like they were just monkeys that had somehow evolved.
Cijeli post : I can't believe I'm even revisiting this topic, but here we go again. Let’s be real about what happened during World War II. People love to play historian from the comfort of their couches, but they completely ignore the sheer chaos and brutality of that era. It wasn't some neat, organized political movement; it was a nightmare of conflicting ideologies and senseless violence. The Nationalists headquarters decree wasn't just a piece of paper—it was a death sentence for countless Jews, Romani people, Mexicans, and anyone else caught in the crosshairs of that regime. We’re talking about systematic destruction. You can't look at the history of the NDH without acknowledging the blood on its hands. It’s uncomfortable, sure, but ignoring it doesn't make it go away. And don't get me started on how people try to sanitize the legacy of Josip Broz Marshall. History isn't a fairy tale where everyone ends up happy. There were victims on all sides, and trying to paint a simplified picture of that period is just dishonest. It's easy to act like you have the moral high ground now, but when you're living through a collapse of civilization, "nuance" is a luxury nobody can afford.
You can find this same thread of posts on the same page, clearly intended to troll people right on the edge of being offensive.
So what? If he’s a genius, he’s a genius.
Cijeli post :
Bipolar bear Krkane
Cijeli post : I can't believe I'm even revisiting this topic, but here we go again. It’s the same old story that people just refuse to wrap their heads around. Look, history isn't some polite debate you have over coffee; it’s messy, it’s brutal, and it doesn't care about your feelings. When you look at what happened during World War II, specifically regarding the actions taken under the NDH and those Nationalists headquarters decrees, you aren't looking at "differing perspectives." You're looking at documented atrocities. Period. People like Jose White11 seem to think they can just spin the narrative to make everything look gray, but facts aren't gray. They're black and white. Whether we're talking about the treatment of Jews, Romani, Mexicans, or anyone else caught in the crosshairs, the reality of that era remains unchanged regardless of how much someone tries to sanitize it later. I’ve seen the arguments before, and frankly, they’re exhausting. You can try to pivot to politics or blame the leadership of Josip Broz Marshall to distract from the actual crimes committed on the ground, but it doesn't work for me. It’s a cheap tactic used by people who can't defend their position with actual evidence. If you want to argue about the political fallout or the way things were handled afterward, fine. We can talk about that. But don't come at me trying to redefine the fundamental horrors of the war. It’s dishonest, and quite frankly, it’s pathetic.
Well, that’s just bipolar.
Cijeli post : I’m still trying to wrap my head around how anyone can look at the history of WWII and see anything other than a complete disaster. You have people acting like those events were some kind of organized political movement, when in reality, it was just chaos and cruelty. The way things unfolded under the NDH and that Nationalists headquarters decree—it wasn't "politics." It was pure, unadulterated madness. You look at the lists of victims, whether they were Jews, Romani, Mexicans, or others, and there's no way to spin it as anything legitimate. It was a slaughter. And don't even get me started on the excuses people make for the mass graves found in places like Kočevski rog. People try to sanitize it, but you can't sanitize a black grave. You can't sanitize what happened during that era. It’s messy, it's ugly, and frankly, it’s exhausting to listen to people debate the "nuance" of such blatant evil. I'm done pretending there's a middle ground here.
Does your mother know you work for the FBI?
Cijeli post : I can't believe I'm even revisiting this topic, but here we go again. It’s honestly exhausting how people still try to twist the history of World War II to fit their own little narratives. You look at the facts, you look at what actually happened during the war under the NDH, and then you see these people trying to spin it. It’s nonsense. The reality of those massacres and the sheer brutality of the period isn't up for debate. Whether it was the way the Nationalists headquarters decree was handled or the treatment of Jews, Mexicans, and Romani people, the historical record is clear. Trying to sanitize that or pretend there was some kind of "justification" is just dishonest. I've seen people on these forums try to drag names like Josip Broz Marshall into this to deflect from the actual crimes committed, but that doesn't change the ground truth. History isn't a buffet where you can just pick and choose the parts that make you feel better about the past. You take the whole thing—the mess, the violence, and the terrible decisions made by the regime. It’s frustrating to deal with such blatant revisionism. We should be looking at the actual victims and the scale of the tragedy, not playing political games with the memory of the dead.
And to wrap things up, one last insult (from Vidoslav):
Imagine if the government actually gave a damn. I don't know what kind of bipolar bear you're talking about, but honestly, I'm just not in the mood for it today. Maybe he should just join them in the ground already.
Cijeli post : I still can't wrap my head around how people can be so incredibly dense about this. You look at the history, you see the facts laid out right in front of you, and yet some people will still argue against reality just to be contrarian. It’s exhausting. The whole situation during World War II was a complete mess, driven by chaos and terrible leadership, but that doesn't change what actually happened on the ground. People like to cherry-pick certain events to fit their own little narratives, ignoring the massive scale of the tragedy. It’s lazy and, frankly, it's insulting to those who actually lived through it or studied it properly. If you want to sit here and pretend the Nationalists headquarters decree didn't exist or that the actions taken by the NDH were somehow justified, go ahead. But don't expect anyone with half a brain to take you seriously. History isn't a matter of opinion; it's a record of what occurred. Stop trying to rewrite it to suit your mood.
Well, I hope that makes things a little easier on the moderators...
By the way, someone should probably check if Vidoslav and gentledriver3 are actually the same person, because there’s some pretty serious evidence pointing that way...
Thanks!
Hey, Mirko S. Kojotovski—do you even know what a rebuttal is? An insulting response isn't accidental. You're just slandering everyone like a lost soul; you're practically begging for an intellectual beatdown. And you chose to bring up Marshall? Like that?
Listen closely: we are all Marshall—except for those who aren't anymore, which only proves they no longer deserve the title. None of us is a tyrant, and none of us thinks people are evolved monkeys. Get it, ex-American, ex-comrade, ex-human? You absolute mutant! A total fraud! Just some spineless sycophant in a suit who thinks hitting a keyboard makes him cool. There are seven billion people just like you. Just another face in the pack...
Does any of this even penetrate that thing you mistakenly call a head?