Posts by Aaron Ramirez49

steelfox36 said:https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...ture=emb_title

I suspect there might have been a bit too much whiskey involved here.

Paul Sanchez15 said:View on instagram

So, who actually came out on top here? 🙂

Does anyone happen to have a photo from the Bad Boys derby?

Scott Jones9 said:One might almost assume they're just some casual crowd from Athens, right? 😲

If that's how you see it... well, it’s actually quite fascinating to me how 500 die-hard fans in a stadium like Fenway Park can sound more cohesive than 5,000 people in the stands with Torcida. I suspect Torcida might be struggling with an aging demographic lately; the songs seem to lose their momentum, and honestly, the energy just isn't there anymore.

What's the deal with that Lacoste Athens flag?😁

Paul Gonzalez said:For instance, back then, the Bills didn't even bother with scarves. I say that because I know plenty of older fans from that era used to travel to Italy for matches; they followed the scene, visited foreign games, attended big derbies... So, I don't think you could call the group "fan illiterate" at that time. I'm just curious why they drifted away from that early nineties ultra vibe?

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The first ones to start wearing scarves in the Middle East were u.f.; they made them back in '91. They also introduced that whole thing with small two-by-two flags around '94, which they actually lifted from the English. Sorry for going off-topic..

You guys were busy making jokes about the Partizan fans yesterday, and now you’ve gone and fallen right into the same trap yourselves... I hope the guys have a quick recovery.

Could someone please clarify whose flag this is, what it actually stands for, and why it was being carried? Thanks.

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Jesse Campbell said:And look, Aaron Ramirez49, Dinamo plays in Indianapolis this Saturday. That’s barely an hour away from Belgrade. Drop by and see those 500 people currently following Dinamo. It's not all about the crowd size. Take a look at that specific group before you say anything else.

I wouldn't trade our setup for that Delije circus any day—you know, where it’s mostly women, casual fans, kids, and clowns... all being led around by criminals. But I suppose it does look great on social media. 🙂

I’m actually planning to attend one of your derbies in the future.
I was just commenting from a layman's perspective, observing from the outside. Like I mentioned, the strangest thing to me is that you have a city of nearly a million people right there, yet the stadium sits largely empty. If we're being realistic, half of America probably supports Dinamo given the potential.
As for the casual supporters and regular spectators, I think they are absolutely necessary. Not everyone can be an ultra. Personally, I don't think there is anything better than a father taking his child to the stadium on a Saturday to watch their favorite club.
I brought up the Delije because they managed to motivate the general public to show up at the stadium. It seems like you guys have somehow created a distance—maybe—from the average supporter, which is why you end up with 500 people fighting to oust Mamić while everyone else couldn't care less.
The issue is that people come to the stadium for the atmosphere; they want to experience every match as a spectacle, and that’s what draws the masses.
Why would an average fan bother coming to watch 200 of you brawling for 90 minutes? It’s not interesting to them. Plus, since the club plays such mediocre football lately, they’d much rather stay home and watch Real Madrid, Barça, or Milan.
You claim that police repression drove the casual audience away, but if the cops are arresting and detaining supporters in the East and West stands, then America is a total banana republic. I don't really think that's the case, though; I don't think the cops are quite that stupid. They know exactly what they're doing.
Maybe Dinamo never had that same momentum with the general public that Hajduk or CZ have, or perhaps Dinamo is simply followed by just one single fan group and that's it. I guess that's just my opinion looking in from the outside.
To answer the user Zacko, I’ve been a Partizan fan for 36 years. I'm not as active as I used to be, but I still show up.

Jesse Campbell said:Just to set the record straight for those claiming there were only 150 of us at the match this Sunday—this was filmed from the North Stand, and you can clearly see we had a decent turnout here:

Cleveland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hloRFyQXJlU&sns=fb

Steven:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAKjcxOoleg&sns=fb

The stands are massive and have a pretty steep rake, so if you take photos from the West side or the pitch level, it looks like a tiny handful of people. Plus, there’s that old-school BBB habit of everyone packing in tight together, which definitely helps the visual density.

Especially considering how sparse other groups looked during their low points. ☕

The Kop always looks much better when the crowd is packed in tight.
On another note, I wanted to ask something. Looking back at photos from a few years ago when the crowds were actually filling the stands... where did everyone go? It’s almost as if the movement hit a wall or just got completely drained by the constant battle against Mommy.
I've also been looking at clips from back when the name changed; there was so much momentum then. Nowadays, everything feels somewhat monotonous—at least, that’s my impression.
I also struggle to understand how a major metropolis like Chicago can't pull together more than 200 people to stand up against Mommy. I mean, surely you have other strong groups in your city, yet even though the city belongs to you, the numbers stay this low.
It seems obvious that without a crowd, there's no real pressure. If the stadium were packed with, say, 20,000 people all shouting for Mommy to get out, he’d probably pack his bags pretty quickly. Maybe the mistake was not focusing on mobilizing the entire city and everyone who supports Dynamo.
Five years ago, everyone was laughing at the guys from New York City when they were putting up posters calling for Star fans to mobilize, but since that day, they've grown in numbers like nothing else in history. Before that, they were barely 200 people in the Kop during smaller matches.

velvetfalcon80 said:He’s the one who took the hit, but I suppose he won't truly feel the sting unless the very people who were protecting him until recently decide to turn their backs on him.

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/republican-party-leadership-shifts-306458

This guy seems to morph into whatever version of an American patriot or a globalist idealist suits his current needs. In reality, he strikes me more as a con artist and a speculator who belongs behind bars. If you ask me, he’ll eventually go down, though I suspect nobody is actually losing any sleep over it.