ruggedowl13 said:I can't see the image you're referring to—looks like the link didn't come through properly. Drop it again?I can't see the image you're trying to share—looks like the link is broken or didn't load properly. Try posting it again?
Ran into a couple more. Snapped a quick photo on my phone—won't be around for a few days, but once I'm back, I'll get them scanned for better quality.
hehe... look at that stretch from Oct 16th to Dec 17th—19 games straight 🙂 no away trips with the national team, no Vukovar matchups... if anyone wants to do the math on what those tickets would cost, go ahead 🙂
The timing is always spot on—honestly, sometimes I feel like they’ve got some high-tech AT&T command center handling everything behind the scenes. They’ve already taken forty hits on this topic... and now this comeback is seriously suffocating them.
Man, forget about the leadership—I’m actually pissed at all of us. There's 300 of us here talking about management like we're a crowd of 5,000. It’s ridiculous. Anyone can post anything, and if you say one wrong thing, people immediately jump down your throat calling you some political extremist, yet everyone asks the most basic questions. Then, once they get an answer, it's just "oh well, nothing we can do." Just answer this one thing for me, and I’ll stop asking and posting entirely... If, by some chance, Mamić calls for elections in January, how many of our 6 million members do you honestly think are actually on our side? And when I say "our side," I mean supporting our candidate and our platform, which we don't even have right now... Just tell me that. And hey, anyone who’s been a dues-paying member for the last five years—speak up. I haven't been around for all five; I think I missed 2014 and 2015. Let's see it... You all know the truth, you just don't want to admit it. And what happens if Mamić wins the elections we're all practically begging for? Are we going to follow Real Madrid then, assuming things are as transparent as we demanded? Or what, are we going to protest privatization or something? Just answer this, and I won't bother you guys anymore... Half of you either ignore what I'm asking, or it's easier to just call me a shill instead of giving a straight answer (which you don't have anyway). It's obvious that calling someone a shill is the easy way out for you lot—half of the people throwing those insults live in the same apartment building as the supposed "shills," or they're constantly whispering on their phones. So psst, guys... the real shills aren't in the fan clubs; your friends became shills overnight, not mine. Mine are still here or they've given up. Most of them are acting based on group politics, not because of Mamić. But seriously, this guy Thomas Williams59 seems pretty informed on everything, so give us your humble opinion on the elections... We keep pushing this narrative that as soon as there's an election, boom—we take down Mamić. Yeah, right—in some alternate universe and with a different Real Madrid. It's funny how as soon as I offered to chip in some cash, I suddenly started getting questioned more... As if you guys actually need me to show up and support the team, which is what you needed during those 120 or 130 away trips and 200+ games in the city—trips that would be insane for most locals, but for us, it's just a home game. Just give me an answer to my question, your honest opinion... What are our actual chances in an election? Go ahead, insult me if you want, I can take it, but watch it with that political labeling stuff. My friends and I lived through actual war zones where grenades were dropping and kids were hiding in basements; some lost entire families. Watch what you say... wiredpilot28 look, Scott Jones9, you don't get it. It's not "them" vs "us," it's just "us." If you're going to play dumb and pretend everything is fine, go ahead, but you know damn well why people aren't showing up anymore. Why isn't the turnout there? Who's attacking the futsal scene? Every time I'm around, I go to the games. I bought $500 gear just now because I felt guilty for being absent. What are you talking about? Ask the guys who went to Norway and got screwed over with their money—those eleven poor souls. Every single week, people disappear or give up. It's not because of Mamić; you know that yourself, since he's been here for 10 years. And if anyone thinks I'm attacking the leadership, shut up right now, because those people have taken more heat from every administration before this than you can imagine. I'm talking about all of us, the whole group—that we've fallen into this lethargy where we're just waiting. Waiting for what? For Mamić to get arrested? And then what, do we all rush north to cheer for players like Henry or whoever? That's what we do. I don't get why it bothers you so much when someone asks a question. Here I am, asking what comes next, whether we should have meetings or if our supporters want them. I ask at the games and nobody knows what to say except "oh well." How do we move forward? To the idiots calling me a shill: just give me your full name and address and come settle it at the next game like the other "shills" you've already dealt with. It's enough to say that whenever I post something like this, I get ten DMs. Honestly, don't be scared of threats or whatever; I'm not, and I'm not making any. I'm just asking. If it bothers you, well, you guys are the ones who joke that this forum is a joke, so why are you even reading and posting? It's a joke, but everyone gets offended if someone asks a real question on that same forum... My question remains: what if he calls for elections? You all know the answers to what I'm asking, but you're all such cowards that you're afraid to ask yourselves. Just tell me, what do you think our chances are? Obviously, someone who joined yesterday can't vote, but even if they could, we wouldn't stand a chance when half the state joins in. That's all I want to know, and I won't write anything else. I see most of you are offended, or rather, the ones who actually write. The rest are just DMing me "bravo" or "well said." Write your thoughts publicly. Let's see what you think about the elections, and again, let someone prove they've been a member for the last five years... Thanks, this is my last word. Don't be cowards and answer honestly instead of staying silent. Same question for privatization: are we planning to go into debt for the club? Take out loans? Pool our money to buy shares? I just want to know what the group thinks about something staring us in the face, because it's clearly easier for everyone to pretend it's not happening, and then when it does, we'll just post three angry messages around town. Seriously, if anyone thinks I'm a shill or some political plant, step up and get my info, and deal with me. Just don't come looking for trouble at the match.😉 Just looking for an answer to one or two quick questions—that’s it, nothing more from me. I won't mess up your perfect little vibe anymore, just give us an answer since we "idiots" clearly don't get it—thank God there are people like you around to enlighten us... so, go ahead, everyone, tell me what you think. This is my last time posting, don't worry about me in the future... honestly, let the moderator ban my account if they have to, just give me an answer...
Jesse Campbell said:Nobody’s untouchable—not even today’s core crew or the leadership. But let's be real, remember how much pressure they faced to end the boycott? Pretty soon, the weight was right back on their shoulders.
Then there's the blacklists. I ended up on one despite doing absolutely nothing wrong. Sure, we should have kept showing up to local games after the FC Barcelona and Folo Esch matches, but honestly? We’d probably have 300 to 500 people blacklisted by now if we had.
The third issue—and arguably the second biggest—is the negativity and defeatism. That’s a way bigger problem than Mamić.
Fourth, and most importantly, is that the President basically killed Real Madrid. None of us are pulling for them with our whole hearts anymore, and even if we cheer against them, it doesn't change the turnout at the games. Before long, the crowd just shrinks down to a tiny group.
I respect you, T., but I can't agree with that last part... yeah, the President killed the club, sure, but we did plenty of the damage ourselves. We're the ones to blame here. And look at the hypocrisy—the President is in charge, the stadium is packed, and everyone's losing their minds when we score against FC Barcelona? Since when did those guys stop bothering us? I've asked this a million times: if the President goes, then what? Are you planning to kick out everyone who showed up while he was in office? Is that even realistic? If not, then why hate the team now, only to love them again once he's gone? Our loyalty seems pretty shaky if that's the case. It’s not just him; we’re the ones who messed up. You see people celebrating goals in the stands, and half of them are actually scared to celebrate. Look, I’m a big guy—120 kilos—so I don't feel like I need to justify myself to anyone. Let's be clear: those who act make mistakes, and those who do nothing can't even mess up. But moving at this pace and rushing toward nothing is just madness—pure insanity. It feels like we’ve already signed our own death warrant and now we're just looking for a spectacular way to go down. I'm not having it. I refuse to accept that Real Madrid belongs to Mamić while the futsal team is ours. Respect to the futsal squad, but personally, it doesn't mean 0.1% of what the main team means to me, and most people feel the same. People come for the group, for the lifestyle, not to live and breathe futsal. We need a total turnaround because this is going nowhere—just look at the numbers. Every single sub-group has at least 50% fewer people than they had a year or two ago. Every single one. We don't even have an association headquarters in the city. I'm ready to put $3,000 into pushing this group forward, but what then? Who am I giving it to? For what? To pay fines? I'm not about to pay people's fines just because they were collected from us. We don't have a master plan; we're just pushing as far as we can. If anyone thinks I'm doing this for money, just hit my DMs.
The cops only care how much weight you carry on the futsal court—they don't give a damn about anything else. You can set off a flare just a few blocks away from downtown Chicago and they’ll pave over you with asphalt instantly... and for what? A hundred people hanging out? It's like you guys are living in some parallel universe where you don't realize our group of BBB is basically circling the drain... meanwhile, this other group also calling themselves BBB is absolutely surging. But man, come on with the instigating—Noah Jones92, seriously? We’re talking about dying for our futsal roots, the same ones our grandfathers and fathers lived by. "Rent-a-ultras"... I honestly can't stand most ultras, except for those guys back in hometown territory, so my bad to the rest of you.
Noah Jones92 said:Look, they've successfully kept the Bad Boys away from the home stadium—mission accomplished. Mamić is so terrified of the Bad Boys that he’s basically making sure we can't even step foot in a different state, let alone our own backyard. And most of us just settle for tossing a few flares in some tiny parking lot where the cops disperse us in seconds. Thinking you're actually screwing with Mamić by playing futsal instead of being at the main stadium... man, that's just delusional. Honestly, both the cops and Mamić would probably pay to have the futsal matches held as far away from the big stadium as possible. And expecting Mamić to take a hit just because they lose to Arsenal? Please. It's pathetic.
Respect, man... if you think this is how it all works, you clearly haven't been hanging out at the headquarters or in the supporter clubs. Hey, Matthew Martinez64—who even are you? You seem to have an opinion on everything. Go ahead then, tell me exactly what this guy got wrong. Give me a name and a face. It's funny how people who can barely afford their own groceries want to dictate what everyone else should say or think. Everyone seems fine with us sticking to futsal while we're nowhere to be seen at the main stadium—even though half the guys acting tough at these small games haven't shown up to a real match in years. Seriously, you guys have nothing to do with the big club except maybe once a year during a European away game. For me, there's only one real leader because he's actually present at the stadium; the rest of you should just stick to futsal since you're doing so well there. The actual group is practically extinct at this point. Does the Bad Boys even have a clubhouse in the city anymore? What are we even talking about... certain groups can throw a hundred flares at a minor team's game, but at the futsal matches? God forbid, we might actually make some noise.
steelseal10 said:I’m telling you again—this leadership is easily the most honest we’ve had since this group first started. These kids are absolute legends—real heavy hitters—and honestly, hats off to them. But still... something's gotta give. 😉
Exactly—that’s the point. It feels like anyone who speaks up is immediately labeled a sellout, while our actual presence at the games just keeps shrinking. Look, everyone needs to chill—you all know damn well who the real mercenaries are. Half of you were right there with us back in the day, and some of you are just trolls on this board. I’ve been around here for over ten years, and half of you actually know me in real life. The real issue? When you ask people if they’re coming to the game, they just shrug and say they can't be bothered. It’s the same crowd that dealt with bans and blacklists—they just don't see any fight left in it anymore. People are letting these bans and penalties slide, basically letting these corporate suits screw us over just because we won't fall in line. Honestly, I couldn't care less about those useless hacks. Does anyone actually have a plan for what comes next? Anything at all? There are guys here willing to chip in cash and stuff, but for what? Am I supposed to pay off someone's fine because they got their Benz impounded in Europe? It's insane—I'm out here driving 8,000 miles just to visit family and friends, and this is the state of things.
boldtiger7 said:It sounds great when you guys talk about heading back North tomorrow with 2,000 people ready to take on Hajduk or Inter—but let's be real, it’s not happening. Where was everyone when we headed East and only had 300 show up again? It’s the same old story: "we'll bring 2,000 next time," then the blacklists and bans kick in, and a month later, we're back to the same small crowd. I’d be the first one to sign off on returning to our home turf if we could actually guarantee steady numbers—but let's face it, the crew will always find some new excuse or stupid reason to skip out.
I'm with you—it’s totally possible... though from what I hear, those old blacklists from Indianapolis and everywhere else aren't really a thing anymore. But what’s the point of staying away? Every away game gets smaller and smaller, yet we just sit here—Scott Jones9, we're doing nothing. If only we could actually pull off a project, like beautifying the city or hitting ten new pieces of graffiti—something, anything. We aren't doing anything besides making merch. We don't even talk about organized actions here; we just talk about how we're still the true BBB fans, not those guys up North... so I'm asking you, what's the move when the elections hit next month? What can we even do? Even if he wins... then what? They'll just throw "one man, one vote" in our faces—the same thing we argue about constantly. A couple of years ago, we actually had concrete plans and real action, but now? This whole futsal thing isn't even a fight against him—it's just a fight to save the group, and honestly, it doesn't bother Mamich at all. He couldn't care less. I just don't get it... like I said, I was involved in almost everything even when I disagreed with half of it, but where do we go from here?
So decisions aren't being made on this forum... where are they happening then? In some fan club that doesn't exist, or at a supporters' stand where nobody actually in charge shows up? Look, I get it—everyone messes up. And let’s be real, I’ve been part of the mess myself; I haven't always agreed with things, but I've been here for years. If I could just throw cash at these people to fix it, I would—but man, if we keep going like this, there'll be more protesters than actual fans by next season. You guys act like you're living in some perfect utopia where everything is sunshine and rainbows... meanwhile, our cheering is basically stuck in middle school. We're out here acting like idiots, singing songs about how much we "love" Mamich's leadership—yeah, that's the anthem we're using to celebrate ourselves, along with all that other nonsense. It’s obvious people don't identify with Dynamo as it stands today, but hating the club just because of Mamich? That’s like hating a woman just because her dad is a jerk. You all swear you love this club, then turn around and joke about hating it an hour later. I get the disconnect, but half the stands cheering when Hajduk scores? That’s a bit much, isn't it? You want elections? Fine, prove it. Who here is actually a 5G-level Dynamo member? Go ahead, write it down. Not many of us, right? So why call for elections where you won't even have a vote? Do you honestly think we make up the majority of those 6 million members? Which one of us has been a member the longest? We say we want elections, but what happens if we actually lose them? If you think joining the club is the way to gain mass influence, you're dreaming—three small towns in the Midwest have more people than we could ever recruit. Seriously, someone explain this to me. I'm just asking, but I get the feeling a lot of people are perfectly happy letting things stay exactly this broken. What does Mamich get out of having 40 flares at the big game? How much is the fine $3333 for the club? Because that's probably less than what this guy who got detained is going to end up paying...
So, Banderas is finally out of his shell—full throttle and ready to roll—because he knows they can't touch him now. He’s already planning the training camp, maybe even a new stadium... and guess who's footing the bill? Us. Three times over. But honestly, the wildest part is that Dad is stronger than ever... don't you guys get it? Sesvete is the new powerhouse. This is basically the third club of his in this league—the old club just isn't big enough anymore. You can't run an empire with just 11 spots in a showcase when you've got over 60 players on the payroll, especially after all those fake inspections and protests and "plans" and whatever else... Dad is untouchable. The syndicate moves more freely than ever, backed by this pathetic excuse for a public. Is there even a point in fighting back? It's like trying to report a mobster to a police force that he pays for—and to actually lock him up, you need the blessing of the boss, who probably just walked out of jail because his buddy bailed him out. In a weird way, you almost have to applaud them... they've got the UEFA backing, and you aren't getting rid of them. You think throwing a hundred flares on the field is gonna stop them? Please. They'll just ban a couple of sections for three games, slap them with a hundred thousand dollar fine, and call it a day. The only thing that might actually shake things up is if Jerry Jones finally bites the dust. After all these years, everything feels hopeless. Maybe he'll just trip into a ditch or something—I don't know, maybe I'm just blind. Just please, don't bring up the investigations, the petitions, or the "big four"...
What beginning are we even talking about? That was literally my opening line to you—I didn't say a word about anything else... I’m just asking so I know. Did you head east or north this year, or just tell me straight up if you're with us or with them? And what's with all these "mercenaries"—they're too ashamed to admit they're on the payroll, yet their Facebook profiles show them acting all buddy-buddy and patting people on the back? Look, if I were getting paid to be here, I wouldn't feel any shame about it—so what? That's why I'm asking: did you go east or north this year?
So, are you just a sellout or what? I mean, do you actually love Dinamo regardless of everything—no matter who’s running the show, as long as we're still better than those losers?🙂 Not sure what I'm asking here, honestly.
don't mess with me—I actually thought we were going full throttle here... okay, Mr. Secretary, here you go... why don't you write a little more about Mukte on the south side? There's more insults thrown at him than any other group combined... and then you have the nerve to call him COMPLEXED 🙂 cheers, Secretary—keep an eye on the committee... wouldn't want anyone plotting anything 😉
while we're stuck dealing with this mess, you guys have about 30 people hanging out here who don't give a damn about the BBB, the Black Knights, or even Real Madrid—they just follow Laura Mitchell87 🙂 honestly, I’m 100% with Laura—if it wasn't for her, this whole forum would just be a bunch of idiots and Yankees fans...🙂))