Posts by Sarah Stewart6

MNK isn't some grand project or a tool for fighting back. That's just not what it's for.

It’s definitely not the club's purpose to have all those people move over just to bark at empty offices in the West End in front of 500 turtles.

And honestly, nobody actually expected this many people to show up for their games.

MNK Dinamo is a club, designed to be the amateur wing of Dinamo for that sport. Period. Dinamo fans used to follow basketball, handball, even water polo, so why wouldn't they follow a smaller version of soccer? But it should belong to them, not some scheme run by Milicevic, Gobac, or whoever else...

Plus, that first choreography at Šalat featuring the Dinamo crest and its message said everything about this club to anyone who actually knows how to read between the lines.

If MNK Dinamo matches are considered an "event," then does that mean Arsenal, Werder, or every single European match and title celebration for Dinamo are also events? What kind of "event" is a game in a second-tier amateur league that most people didn't even know existed?

Most people stopped following the main club because of the club itself and its issues, not because of Cibona or Šalat... the stands have nothing to do with it.

All this talk about "fighting smarter"... everyone knows where that rhetoric comes from and whose agenda it really is. Look at them—they've spent a whole year showing us exactly what the result of that "smarter fight" looks like, and it was a massive slap in the face to the radicals.🤣

Gary Evans90 said:We’re talking about interest from new kids and people coming to the indoor soccer games, right? People are waiting for them to be taught how things work. There's always this constant complaining about it being the same 50 people over and over—and yeah, that’s true—but it’s also true that none of us have actually made an effort to pull together a solid core of volunteers to help run the show (and I mean organizers, not just the hardcore fan group). Look at the membership for Cleveland Montانية; plenty of people left their contact info, especially emails. How many of those people actually got a follow-up? People expect everything handed to them on a silver platter. They show up as a group, we prep the field, they make a few excuses, and then everyone goes home. You fix stuff like this through meetings and actual education. We need to improve our collective mindset and work on unity, not just so people stop glaring at each other 😁 but so everyone can actually step up and help out, so it isn't always the same 50 people doing all the heavy lifting...

And who exactly is supposed to "educate" the people who are meant to be doing the educating? What does "fan education" even mean? Every active young person out there today basically showed up on their own and grew up alongside some slightly older heads.

Ten years ago, you wouldn't dream of a 25 or 30-year-old even talking shop with a 16-year-old. And fifteen or more years back? Forget it. Back then, you had to put in years of traveling to away games and dealing with the bullshit, the brainwashing, and the hazing just to earn a shred of respect over time.
Now? Suddenly, you're 19 or 20 and you get to be "constructive," acting like an equal and tossing out suggestions like you own the place.
Take the generation that's 28 to 30 now. When they were your age, they were out there doing graffiti, organizing actions, tagging, painting... they had ideas. And they barely had any contact with the "leadership" back then beyond the basics.
Realize that education starts with you. Nobody can turn you into a fan if you don't have it in you and don't love it. No one can teach you what makes a good choreo, a great piece of street art, or a solid chant if you aren't a real fan and haven't lived on the streets. You learn all that shit as you grow up, hanging with the older crowd, through experience, and just maturing within the scene.
The older guys are just there to give a nudge when things stall, same as anyone else who isn't super active. Being a fan isn't some math equation or a set formula...

The forum stays open because everyone needs a place to vent, even if they just want to make life miserable for everyone else by insisting their way is the only way. Just like the drama surrounding the Bad Boys or Ohm...
It’s also a space for our younger guys—the lions who haven't stepped up yet—to blow off steam and deal with the frustration of growing up. They're starting to realize sooner than most fans how much fake acting and hypocrisy there actually is in this whole supporter scene.
All this constant nagging on forums and social media, demanding respect just because you travel to San Francisco or some Small town, USA, just proves you aren't fully grown yet. Stop looking for a medal for living your life the way you choose. You go to San Francisco and those small towns because you're Bad Boys, not so you can rub it in the faces of those "indoor soccer fans" later.
Serious supporters don't debate things like that. It always comes down to "what the real ones do." To be "real," you need more than just guts and physical toughness; you need a brain. You need that bare minimum of devotion, a bit of humility, and above all, the character to submit to something greater than ourselves—something that was here before us and will be here long after we're gone.

Jonathan Edwards said:There’s honestly no point in trying to explain anything when more than half the crowd is blindly buying tickets through the Democratic Party, while certain people in the group are busy pushing their little agenda about using vouchers instead.

Sure, you see some of that happening in our section too, but it's a tiny fraction—just outliers. People were actually mocking us recently when we tried to explain why using the official system is better than just showing up at the gate. Then they had to eat their words once 800 people from a place like St. Louis ended up on the lists because of that exact method. Though, back then, things were different anyway... motives were different...

Quick question for someone from the supporters' group, if anyone can answer... Out of those 90 names, how many actually went to Milwaukee and Sofia, and how did they even get their hands on tickets?
Or let me rephrase that: how many of yours were in Milwaukee and Sofia using union-issued tickets without ever showing up on this list?

Joshua Moore31 said:Released just an hour after those vouchers were approved.

"We expect all American supporter groups to reject this practice. It’s not just prone to manipulation by the police or any USSF leadership and club officials... it's a massive tool for anyone looking to clear fans out of our stadiums altogether."

Compare this text to everything Borovec and the club suits have been preaching over the last three days. This stuff is thirteen months old...

What’s all this noise about? This stuff has been around here for two and a half years already. When people actually asked why we aren't using vouchers or doing things through personalization, everyone just rolled their eyes or played dumb... saying the FBI already tracks everything anyway and they don't need vouchers to know what's happening...
You guys still don't get it. These blacklists are a direct product of personalization. A huge chunk of people basically signed themselves up by applying for those vouchers or buying tickets for Dinamo's games. The trio Antolic - Borovec - Svetina explained the whole thing over the last few weeks... you just have to learn how to read between the lines to see how this rigged system actually works.
The lists aren't illegal. The lists *are* the personalization. It's a gray area the feds pushed through with the USSF during those 2011 law changes just so they could manipulate anyone who managed to dodge the bans or precautions. When certain influential cops in the city who deal with the Bad Boys talked about "shutting down" groups, this is exactly what they meant.
We already lost once when the constitutionality was questioned. Now there are other combinations being tried, but the chances aren't great...
The only reason there's so much debating lately is because of Torcida's influence over Hajduk, and the fact that the Hajduk crowd finally got fed up with those losers messing with them. Back when people were mocking the number of "clean" fans at Dodger Stadium, they didn't care about making fun of the stats in the photos. Other fans weren't asking questions back then like they are now—asking how they're supposed to drive all that way, pay for a ticket, and then only have a 10% chance of actually getting into the stadium.
The guys on our side who actually give a damn about being a fan—and who now have a chance to see how it feels based on what others are going through—might actually start appreciating ourselves a bit more. They might start realizing some of the things that have been happening on our stands over the last couple of years... understanding the messages being sent, our moves... if they even know where to look.

Some of the things you guys are aiming at are just ugly and low. Those kids wearing the security shirts actually care about all this, and they know damn well why they have to call someone out for certain behavior.
While the rest of us are just screaming and messing around in the stands, they’re doing the work so we don't end up paying more for security. That alone should be enough to make people look a bit differently at their mistakes, if they even made any.
There's a very good reason why certain things aren't allowed. You just need to use your brain and think for a second... read between the lines, maybe ask a question if something isn't clear, because you can't write everything down on the internet.
Not everyone in the arena was a 50-year-old with kids, and not everyone was from Chicago either. There were plenty of others there, and they’re the least of your worries.

The first sentence of the flyer says exactly who it's for and why. It’s obvious that what's in that flyer isn't strictly about this one game, but about general behavior—rooting out bad habits and building better ones for the future. Is this some kind of protest where people refuse to read them and just toss them in the trash like they're making paper airplanes? Who is that kind of person trying to spite?

Which LA Galaxy employees? The "employees" of LA Galaxy are the fans; there aren't any others besides a few people from the sports side. Everyone working at the club is a fan, hell, some even play for us.

It’s probably best to just drop this argument now. It’s starting to feel like half the arena was filming, which isn't true... it was just about ten people who don't get it, and none of them meant any harm.

Jeremy Thomas4 said:I'm against filming, but you've got a point here. Fine, bring in more security, but if it’s just a bunch of kids with ridiculous tattoos running around the stands screaming at people, it's useless. That's on management...

As for those "kids"... that game kicked off Sunday at noon and didn't wrap up until after midnight, long after you'd already drifted off into dreamland.

Henry Grant51 said:If that’s our biggest issue right now, we’re doing just fine...

Of course it isn't. The real issue is that these guys can't just act like decent people for once. Instead of focusing on what they're actually doing—or not doing—they have to go around snapping selfies like idiots. Just to have something to remember it by, I guess.
Where it clearly stated that filming was prohibited (and obviously, that didn't apply to the people sitting in the corner of the arena—though if you actually read the flyer, which apparently requires more than having a massive hangover, you'd know), there were four other rules listed. Hardly anyone followed them, especially not the crowd currently acting like experts and philosophers here. It really shows how little people care about the flyers that people actually work hard to design and print... You hand someone something useful for the stands, and some moron just turns it into paper airplanes.

It’s honestly pathetic that fans are even debating why phone recording is banned.

Sometimes people pull out their cameras more than they do at weddings. They're staring at screens while the game is happening, typing up statuses, tagging people, or whatever other nonsense... there isn't a single hardcore stadium in the world where that behavior is okay, yet a few idiots here try to turn it into a massive issue, just like they did with the flag. You guys are absolute morons.
Obviously, you aren't going to kick a 9-year-old out of the arena just because he's filming. If a security guard messed up, let's not crucify him for doing his job when your actual problem was wondering why the arena ran out of Bud Light.

And then some days, you lot were busy making fun of those losers from Frankfurt.

I’m with you on that... nothing beats seeing fans pull off those phone light choreographies, just like this right here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AjZ...layer_embedded

...just looks incredible

Scott Jones9 said:Jesse Campbell hit the nail on the head once before—we all (myself included) spend way too much energy on them. We know exactly who they are, their faces, and their lack of morals. Unfortunately, they just distract us from the real issues at hand. Like, the federal audit results came out less than two weeks ago and these guys haven't even breathed a word about it...

Nah, that’s not it. You lot are just a bunch of bitter losers obsessed with them. That’s the truth. You're so wrapped up in this saga about nine rejects whose only sanctuary is Mamić's office that you can't see anything else besides acting smart on the internet. That's reality. Every group has its own set of losers, and you guys are ours.

Honestly, that whole crew doesn't even exist. There's maybe seven or eight of them, and the rest are just comic book characters under someone's protection. It's a joke what they look like, but some of you kids are so brain-dead that outside of typing on a keyboard, you don't know anything. You aren't capable of anything. Total uselessness...

You can't even handle basic graffiti, show up somewhere, or come up with a single new slogan or idea for a rally... nothing. You're just products of this "trend-idiocy" that's infected fans—this need to be informed about everything, knowing everyone and their business, just so you can brand yourselves. For you, being in the stands is just a phase because you don't actually contribute anything. You're just idiots with smartphones and flashy Facebook profiles. All because you live in some half-virtual world instead of being out there in the real world, at school, at the station, or on the street.

And you spend all day staring at a monitor just to grab some scrap of info. Because you're just simpletons. Not trying to offend anyone, but that's just the simplest way to put it...

Look, I’ll give you this much: you guys are persistent. But being stubborn isn't going to save you...

First off, attacking someone over their faith is pathetic. People have been told repeatedly not to go there. Just because this guy has insulted all of us in much more shameless and twisted ways doesn't justify a bunch of kids using ad hominem attacks against his religion. Especially since there have always been Muslim fans within the Bad Boys, and there still are. You judge a man by his actions.

On the flip side, you were the ones weaponizing his religion back then just to defend yourselves and what you were doing. If these forum trolls are hypocrites for that, then you guys were even bigger hypocrites back then—and you're five levels worse now, acting like his best friends in a hot tub.

Second... it’s obvious to everyone which card you're playing now. You're trying to mobilize the people who have traditionally hated the Bad Boys—the absolute lowest tier of "fans" and true Mamić sycophants—just to somehow fill up that middle sector in the north. In other words, from the suburbs out to the outskirts, you're crawling on your knees and sucking up to anyone just to get bodies in the stands. That’s exactly why nobody respects you.

Don't act shy now. Since you've got the guts to throw around heavy accusations that someone is being paid off, why don't you actually lay out your "theory"? You can't live on lies. You can muddy the waters for a bit, but it's short-lived. Once a lie is exposed—like when Sarah exposed it and the next day (literally the next day) he ran away from you like he was fleeing a plague...

And give it a rest, you idiots. You've disgraced and betrayed everything possible to disgrace and betray just so you could deal with them now.