Bad Boys - Part IV

I suppose I should probably mention that things are looking a bit lean right now. There's just... well, there isn't any money, I guess. It’s a bit of a situation, really. Maybe it's just one of those phases, but currently, the coffers are quite empty. says:
You mentioned Vienna earlier. I can't help but wonder if you recall how that guy standing right next to you up north was cheering for Austria that day, celebrating every single one of their goals against the opposition? And yet, suddenly, Real Madrid becomes his absolute priority, above everything else. I guess I’m just struggling to see the logic there. Could you maybe explain that to me a bit? I just don't quite get it. ☕

I'm just not speaking to him anymore, and honestly, I couldn't care less what he does... I don't go to the stadium for his sake, and I haven't even been there for anyone else in the past, either. Like I said before, if someone decides to screw things up, then that's on their own conscience—whether it’s him or someone from the other side.

@Mukte, I went ahead and signed the Petition. Personally, I’m all for the elections—let whoever gets the most votes take the lead. But I am absolutely against anyone attacking Ivan Rakitić, Sokota, Zvonimir Boban, Simica, or any of those other legends. They’ve always been my idols, and they always will be. As for people dropping out, well, that’s just Mamic’s doing. Let him handle it. We shouldn't be the ones taking the fall, because if we do, then the police and US Soccer will just have even more excuses to trample over us and spit on us. Has anyone actually given that some thought? It feels like everyone is talking in circles. One group in the Democratic Party says one thing, another group says something else, and you see certain characters hanging out with certain people... honestly, who knows what's true anymore? I guess I just don't give a damn about the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, or Mamic and his payouts. And I really don't get how some people push this narrative that everyone heading North is just a bunch of mercenaries. I mean, how stupid do you have to be to believe that all those people are being paid for everything—the roads, the hotels, the flights, the hookups, the yachts, the Bentleys... all of it? It just doesn't make sense. 🙂🙂🙂

@Celtic, I’m honestly at a loss for how to proceed from here. It isn't really my place to make the final call, I suppose. All I know is that there has been an incredible amount of vitriol directed toward the Real Madrid faithful lately, and it feels like we've reached a point where we need to take a different kind of step forward. If we completely blow this, I fear we'll be stuck with Mamic forever. And let's be real—throwing around insults about him won't actually get him out the door. In my opinion, all this infighting only ends up playing right into Mamic's hands.

Believe me or don't, I really don't care—all I know is that Real Madrid is the only thing that matters to me. It’s not about this specific faction or that other group... honestly, if people don't like my take, then whatever. To be honest, you guys have completely ruined this group. It makes me feel incredibly heavy-hearted to see everyone just constantly spitting on one another and attacking each other like this. I don't even know what hurts more: seeing my beloved Real Madrid being squeezed dry day after day by Mamic, stripping away everything the club used to stand for, or watching the fans fall apart like a rotting old tree.

Peter Robinson21 said:@Jesse Campbell/">@@Jesse Campbell, yeah, I signed the Petition. I’m all for elections—whoever gets the most votes wins. But I'm against attacking Biscan, Sokota, Boban, Simica, and the other legends. Those guys will always be my idols. If things fall apart, it’s because of Mamić... let him take the fall. We shouldn't pin this on the guys who'll just end up carrying his weight, giving the cops and the USSF even more excuses to step on us and spit on us... ever thought about that? The Democratic Party says one thing, others say another, you see certain characters hanging out with certain people... nobody knows what's real anymore. Honestly, I don't give a damn about the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, or Mamić paying the bills... and I don't get how anyone can push the story that everyone heading North is on a payroll. How stupid do you have to be to believe they're paying for everything—roads, hotels, flights, hookups, yachts, Bentleys... etc etc... 🙂🙂 🙂

Alright, so you signed the petition for our Real Madrid and you want elections. But who’s actually blocking them? Give me a straight answer: if you think the Bad Boys are doing something wrong, what does that have to do with the fact that Mamić is refusing to call for an election? Elections would fix the whole mess. Right?

If you hate being stepped on by the football mafia and the cops, then you picked the wrong fan group.

As for the "paid off" stuff, the truth is most of the big shots currently at the North side are either tight with Mamić or obsessed with him. Most don't even hide it. And the club treats them pretty well (while the Democratic Party tries to crush us with repression). Whether they got paid cash for it, I don't know and I don't care. That's actually the least important part.

Peter Robinson21 said:Look, you can take my word for it or you can toss it in the trash, I don't care. But LAFC is the only thing that matters to me... I don't give a damn about the North Side faction or the East Side faction... if that rubs anyone the wrong way... well, screw 'em. Honestly, this whole group has become such a mess that it’s hard to even put into words how depressing it is watching everyone tear each other apart. It's constant infighting. I don't know what hits harder—seeing the version of LAFC that Mamic bleeds dry day after day, stripping away everything that once made the club special, or watching the fans fall apart like some rotting old tree left out in the rain...

This isn't LAFC anymore; it's just pure garbage and Gaenka. If you think *this* is what the club stands for, then you've already picked a side.
There are people out there who actually want change, who want a decent, functional club, and they’ve been swallowing their pride and taking the heat for years now, dealing with all the pressure. But you? You claim you don't care about any of that, that you "just care about LAFC." That's exactly the kind of talk used by the people who are perfectly fine with things staying exactly as they are. Don't try to play the neutral card, because let's be real, you aren't neutral.
The big shots tried to shut down the Bad Boys, but they couldn't pull it off—just like those flip-floppers who change their minds as often as dirty socks.
And yeah, we're at a point where you either stand for something or you don't. There is no middle ground.

And if the North Side guys were just mercenaries—if they only cared about the paycheck—that little pamphlet where they're basically begging for jobs at the stadium, the merch shops, or within the front office would prove it... but hey, that doesn't matter, right? Because "we only care about LAFC."

Peter Robinson21 said:taking payouts from Mamic or the Democratic Party

Man, enough with this transparently fake attempt at playing both sides by Yutelovski. Who the hell actually took money from a public broadcaster—let alone from the Democratic Party???? Seriously, this just proves that whole Goebbels theory that if you repeat some meaningless garbage a hundred times, people will eventually start swallowing it as "fact."
Then again, you only have to look at that leaked letter the "North Side" released themselves to see how they were openly begging for favors and support from LAFC... so what's there even left to say??

Peter Robinson21 said:@gentlemarlin102/">@@gentlemarlin102, I honestly don't know what else to say, it's not my call to make, but look—people have been dragging the LAFC fans through the mud for way too long. It’s time for a new move. I know if we screw this up, we'll be stuck with Mamic forever. Screaming "Mamic is a thief" isn't going to get rid of him, and all this infighting? It just plays right into his hands...

Believe me or don't, I don't care. All I care about is LAFC. I don't give a damn about the North Stand or the East Stand... or whoever doesn't like that. Screw 'em. You guys have messed up this group so badly that it actually hurts to watch you all tearing each other apart. I don't know what's worse: seeing Mamic bleed the soul out of my LAFC day after day, or watching the fans fall apart like a rotten tree...

Yeah, so there we are... didn't think you'd actually have an opinion on this.

We should honestly be grateful that all those losers banded together just to get the hell away from us. You’ve got the freeloaders who live off welfare while acting like the biggest patriots in America, the guys who basically bought their way into office, and that whole crew running for local council alongside people like Marijan Tomurad—just a bunch of loan sharks and some delusional guy who wouldn't know a real fan if one hit him in the face. They did us a massive favor by leaving; when a group can't find its footing in a movement, they're better off gone.

LAFC was never interested in how dirty things were under the fingernails anyway. Let them play-act at being fans. To actually be a supporter, you need heart, and people like that only care about what they can get out of it.

Jesse Campbell said:Alright, look, you signed the petition for our Los Angeles FC and you’re all for holding elections. But honestly, who is actually stopping those elections? If you feel like the Bad Boys are doing something wrong, I don't see how that connects to the fact that Mamic refuses to call for a vote. I mean, if we had elections, wouldn't all this stuff just be resolved? Right?

If the way the football mafia and the police treat people bothers you, then I suppose you might have picked the wrong supporter group.

Regarding the whole bribery thing, the reality is that most of the big names up in the North Stand are either tight with Mamic or they're basically worshipping him. Most of them don't even try to hide it. And the club is extremely lenient toward them (even while the Democratic Party tries to tear us down through repression). Whether they actually received cash for it, well, I don't know, and frankly, I don't really care. That part is secondary, I guess.

This situation really needs to be settled through legal channels... but since we are living in what feels like a total banana republic, going that route will probably be difficult. Still, everything comes to an end eventually... there has to be some sort of loophole, or maybe a dead body in a basement that needs to be found somewhere...

It isn't that I chose the wrong side... because I am neither for nor against anyone specifically... and I suppose I shouldn't have to explain myself to anyone regarding why or how I choose to do things the way I do... as for why I don't head over to the East Side, well, that's my own business, and it's something I'd rather settle with certain people privately, face to face...

As for the Democratic Party, I've heard certain things that might be true, though they could just as easily be lies... I don't really trust anyone anymore, to be honest, I couldn't care less... and the same goes for the North Stand; whether some people took money or not... I'm just not interested. Those who haven't stood by me (whether they were from the East or the North), I won't stand by them either... and I truly don't care if someone took money from Mamic, worked for the Democratic Party, or just got screwed over...

@Jonathan Gonzalez3/">@@Jonathan Gonzalez3, well, what if I told you that in recent years, I have always sided with the West? Is that also considered the wrong side? Or does that make me a Mamic mercenary too?

gentlemarlin102 said:Right, so here we are... I didn't even think you'd be aware

Do you even realize??? Because I practically hold a patent on the phrase "ovakocemoserijesitimamica"????

I suppose I am at least being honest when I say... well, I don't know... but I did state what I do know... and those are simply facts, whether anyone finds them convenient or not...

Honestly, you all seem to have fallen for it hook, line, and sinker. These narratives about having political enemies or claiming they only support Los Angeles FC—it’s all completely manufactured by them just to stir the pot, so there is really no point in even engaging with the insults. I don't know what world you people live in, but this kind of trash is posted everywhere constantly, and half the time, these fake controversies are literally paid for through advertisements. 🙂
There is simply no use in debating them, none at all! We couldn't care less about what you used to believe or where you used to hang out; you're irrelevant now, and that's the end of the story.

Look, I know my way around math, but biology isn't really my thing. I'm not about to jump into someone else's lane and try to tell an expert how to do their job when I clearly don't know the field better than they do.

Peter Robinson21 said:Look, I didn't choose anything wrong here... because I’m not really playing for either side... and frankly, I don't feel like I owe anyone an explanation for why or how I do things the way I do them... as for why I won't head over to the East, well, that's my business, and if anyone has a problem with it, they can take it up with me privately...

@Jonathan Gonzalez3/">@@Jonathan Gonzalez3, what if I told you I've spent most of my recent years leaning toward the West? Is that the "wrong" side too? Or does that automatically make me some kind of tool for Mamić's interests?

Any more arguing is just a waste of breath. You’re basically waiting for the bombing to stop before you crawl out from your basement. Once the smoke finally clears, you'll suddenly find it very easy to pick a side... though, honestly, after the war is over, there will probably only be one side left standing, which should make your decision pretty simple for you.

Until recently, this was what http://prntscr.com/3zbit8 was writing, but now, suddenly, they’ve transformed into some die-hard fan who only cares about Dinamo, haha. You people are absolutely disgusting.

gentlemarlin102 said:well, I know math, but I don't know biology, so it doesn't really occur to me to stick my nose into that field and tell someone who actually works in it that "it doesn't work that way"...

now hold on just a second, you're "attacking" me for not knowing, yet you don't even have a clue how to move forward yourself... just like 99.9% of people out East, nobody knows how to proceed...

you expect me to provide some kind of recipe, but you don't actually have a recipe yourself... not even a trace of one...

I just see that the group has hit rock bottom, that Dinamo has hit rock bottom... the group will probably stay this way for years to come... we'll end up being like "Grave digger 2," where everyone just attacks each other (which is already happening) and eventually someone is going to get hurt... and so on and so forth... We aren't going to get rid of Mamić by having the club banned from European competition or by having the stands closed to all fans...

Come on, if anyone actually has some damn recipe, please, just say it...

Peter Robinson21 said:This needs to be handled through the legal system... but since we’re living in a total banana republic, that’s a long shot. Still, everything comes to an end eventually. There’s always a skeleton in someone's closet waiting to be dug up.

It’s already settled by law, but Mamić just ignores the rules. Even if it wasn't legal, it's common sense that the members pick the leadership of a non-profit—I shouldn't even have to explain that to someone living in Germany.

You know how it goes—Mamić wouldn't last five seconds over here in the States. They'd toss him straight into a psych ward, a commune, or a federal penitentiary. Why should we deal with a dictator like that in America?

Peter Robinson21 said:As for the Democratic Party, I’ve heard some rumors that might be true, but honestly, they could just as easily be lies. I don't trust anyone anymore; frankly, I couldn't care less. Same goes for those guys up North—whether some of them took payouts or not doesn't move the needle for me. If they didn't have my back when things were coming from the East or the North, I'm not showing them any loyalty either. I really don't give a damn if someone took money from Mamić, joined the Democratic Party, or just sold their soul.

Look, you clearly have eyes. Just look at how many cops are guarding the East Coast versus the North. Who’s actually running this country and the police force? My grandma or the Democratic Party? And whose piece of crap is Ranko Ostojić anyway?

Besides that, I’m asking you and all those other guys. Why the hell would the Democratic Party pay BBB to fight Mamić when they've been running the country for over two and a half years? They control the police, the intelligence agencies, inspectors, the IRS—they even pick the Attorney General. But nah, they just hand all the winning cards over to the East. 😂😂😂

Sorry man, but only a complete idiot or a total psycho would try that. 🙂

Even if we ignore Mamić's whole inner circle—stretching from those old-school Secret agents all the way to the hardcore anti-American crowd, including Milanović's brother and his best buddy Siniša Petrović—it's still a mess. ☕

That’s just what mercenaries do—they spin this whole lie about the Democratic Party funding the East just to cover their own tracks after taking massive donations from the club's CEO...

And then you have these people acting all "independent," claiming they don't even know who's actually getting paid anymore and who isn't...

I guess those thugs really pulled it off with their propaganda, and I suppose that was their only real goal...

Peter Robinson21 said:Alright, hold up—you're coming at me like I don't know anything, but you clearly have zero clue how to move forward either... just like 99.9% of people out here on the East Coast who are totally lost...

You're expecting some magic formula from me, but you don't even have a recipe to work with... not even a shred of one...

All I see is that the fan base has hit rock bottom, and Dinamo has hit rock bottom too... the group is gonna stay this way for years... we're basically turning into "Grave digger 2," where everyone just attacks each other (which is already happening) until someone eventually gets burned... and it just keeps going in circles. We aren't getting rid of Mamić by trying to ban the club from European competitions or locking the stands to all the fans...

Look, if anyone actually has a damn solution, speak up...

So yeah, we're even then. "Nobody" knows what to do next, yet everyone is an expert on what *not* to do... let's just do our own thing then, and we'll see who wins. 🤷

Jesse Campbell said:Well, that’s actually already settled by law, but Mamić just chooses to ignore the rules. Even if it weren't legally established, I mean, it's just common sense that the members should elect the leadership of a non-profit organization—though I suppose I don't even need to explain that to someone like you living over in Germany.

I think you know yourself how long Mamić would last in the States. Maybe five seconds tops. They’d probably toss him straight into a psychiatric ward, a commune, or some kind of radical collective. I guess it makes me wonder, why should we here in America have to tolerate a dictatorship from a guy like that?

I mean, look, you have eyes. You can see for yourself how many cops are guarding the East side versus the North side. Who is actually running the country and the police force right now? Is it my grandmother or the Democratic Party? And whose mess is that Ranko Ostojić business anyway?

Besides that, I’m asking you and all those other guys too. Why on earth would the Democratic Party pay BBB to fight against Mamić when they've been running the whole country for over two and a half years? They have control over the police, the intelligence agencies, the inspectors, the IRS... they even get to pick the Attorney General. But no, they just hand all the cards over to the East side. 😂😂😂

Sorry man, but I guess only a complete lunatic or someone totally out of their mind could act like that. 🙂

Even if we were to ignore Mamić's inner circle, which stretches from former Secret agents to extreme anti-American types, then to Milanović's brother, and then to Milanović's best friend Siniša Petrović and so on. ☕

Mamić would reach the same position here, or do you honestly think Hoene is any better than Mamić?

It's just that he plays it smarter. I mean, Hoene was also taking money from players, and the coaches were doing it too, and Hoene used to wander into the locker rooms... except the members at Bayern actually voted for him to do that... whereas they don't do that at Dinamo...

I'll tell you one more time... I've heard certain things from people who live far, far away from the North side, and I really don't know whether I should believe them or not... so I guess I just don't want to get involved in these matters... there is so much nonsense being whispered here and there, so I don't really trust anyone anymore...

America is full of Secret agents and traitors... so I suppose it's no surprise, is it?

gentlemarlin102 said:Well, I suppose we're even then... "nobody" actually knows how to move forward, yet everyone seems to know exactly what not to do... I guess we should just stick to our own paths and see who comes out on top, right? 🤷

But I guess that’s really the whole point of it all... the fact that nobody knows the next step, yet everyone keeps attacking one another, claiming they're the ones in the right... I mean, what can I even say to you about that?

Mamić has already gotten exactly what he wanted... he managed to fracture the only group capable of knocking him off his throne... and that's BBB... and he did it with such a cheap little trick... because he knew that while one side would start digging into their pockets, the other side would start acting out so much that he could finally find a way to get rid of them... It's honestly like a game of chess... some people are only thinking one move ahead, while others are trying to plan three or four moves in advance... and I suppose we've all just fallen straight into the trap.

I’m telling you once more... I heard some things from people way up north, and honestly, I don't know if I should buy it or not... so I'm staying out of this mess... there's just too much nonsense flying around everywhere, and at this point, I don't trust anyone anymore...

The US is crawling with secret agents and traitors... why are you even surprised?

Come on, just tell me what you heard. Let's see it. Stop with all this "I heard it from people far away in the north" crap. Who did you hear it from anyway? Some random lady on the street?

Peter Robinson21 said:Look, Mamić would have climbed his way into that exact same spot too. Or are you actually sitting there thinking Hoene is somehow more competent than Mamić?

Seriously though, what’s even the real difference between Mamić and Hoene?