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Kyle Torres6 said:Who cares? They’ve been grinding this whole time, and now we're just supposed to celebrate? 🙂
It's great that this day finally arrived, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. It's not time for a party yet; it's time to go on the offensive. Don't just sit there—this is our shot. No one else is going to try to take over Madison Square Garden right now, so go grab it. Good luck, everyone.
Robert Cooper60 said:🤷
What are the Hajduk Split fans even hoping for? They know they don't stand a chance while Dad is running the show. 🤷
There aren't even that many successful Italian clubs to compare them to.
Forget those trashy headlines. Their club belongs to them, and that's all they really need. They fight to qualify for Europe every single year, while you're left just hoping and feeling like you've lost control of your own team over the years. I'm done commenting; this could go on forever. One day you'll be patting yourselves on the back for winning some big battle, when really, you only won because he let you. Just remember that. Cheers.
Richard Rogers38 said:It’s not that regular fans are just "sitting on their hands." They just don't want to start a fight while the club is actually winning. The general consensus is that they aren't crazy enough to "tear down" their own club when things are going well without a massive reason, otherwise they'd just be dragging the club down to the level of a struggling Hajduk Split.
So, imagine a successful club dominating the league and playing in European competitions every season (like Bayern Munich or Paris Saint-Germain), and then the fans decide to revolt against management over some minor gripes. How many people would actually join them? Most casual fans would just keep showing up to games as long as the wins keep coming. If the success stops, then they join the rebellion. That's the difference between the grit of Miami and the spoiled attitude in Washington, D.C.
Agreed. That's how the masses think when they have the collective IQ of a brick. Nobody is saying fans at Bayern Munich or Paris Saint-Germain won't face similar issues eventually, but comparing them to what you guys are dealing with isn't exactly logical. You even admitted there's no other terror like this anywhere else in the world. Fans at those clubs can actually go to the stadium without being blacklisted; their leadership isn't comprised of cavemen, even if you run into financial scandals like Hoeness's alley—where Hoeness practically confessed his own guilt and paid the back taxes, according to the press. Those fanbases are nothing like yours, yet you're trying to compare them to Dinamo Chicago's casual supporters. It doesn't hold water. If all the regular Dinamo fans think they shouldn't touch a "successful" club just because they don't want to fall behind Hajduk Split, then they're just mindless and blind. If that's the case, you probably don't need them anyway.
Robert Cooper60 said:The whole vibe at the stadium right now is just club politics, backed by the big shots (if you want to call them that)
because there’s way too much money moving in pro soccer
so even the most hardcore fans wouldn't lift a finger about it
don't you get that they bring out more police for a Dinamo Chicago game than they would for a high-stakes rivalry match?
think that's normal?
Of course it isn't normal. Based on your post, this guy is just a small fish, a nobody. So why bother hoping for change if he's backed by a political machine that actually likes things exactly how they are? If this "small fish" leaves, why would that machine bother installing a new one? What's the point of all the chanting, the online rants, or the protests then? They could just take over a different stadium and start from scratch.
Richard Rogers38 said:Assuming you’re a fan of Savannah (or San Diego, whatever), tell me how regular fans would react to "tearing down" the old guard just to play in Europe and win MLS titles while the club is packed. And then, when the fans turn against him, he just doubles down and enters the Champions League.
Same goes if you’re, say, a Liverpool FC fan and Grgić starts listing his trophies.
Spite would be limited to about ten people.
Anyone who finds that hard to grasp has serious issues.
San Diego isn't even in the same league. For Šbk, there was a decent turnout when the club got relegated to the third tier—pretty standard reaction for a town under 50,000 where most people don't care about sports unless they're caught up in the hype of a Cup final.
In your view, we lack support because everyone's buying into the idea that the boss is some savior because of the Champions League and Europe. Sure, maybe it would be the same in San Diego or Savannah, but then those people would actually show up at the stadium—yet at Yankee Stadium, they're nowhere to be found. Maybe people are just burnt out, like that guy said. Spoiled crowds, the economy, harassment at the stadium... a lot of things could have caused this. Hard to draw any real conclusions. Anyway, I agree with what George Garcia8 wrote; it’s all pretty pathetic. My comments might not make much sense, but I had to get this off my chest. I get the feeling an "army" would only cause enough chaos to trigger this mess, though I can't say for sure they wouldn't submit to this kind of tyranny. Maybe that's the takeaway—all we can do is wait for someone more powerful to decide to step in and end this misery. Honestly, that's the only thing American fans have left; everything else is up to the monsters and thieves. Cheers.
Brandon Anderson34 said:The fan energy just isn't there today to take down big capital or their agendas.
Not sure if you're trying to comfort yourself or what, but realistically, that guy is just flesh and blood. If people don't know where he lives or where he hangs out, they should find out and take action. I bet an ICU bed would teach him a lesson. You know how it goes—he's got the power, but you've got the night.
Brandon Anderson34 said:Hajduk has become a mediocre club. Honestly, even the locals in California are better than them right now.
Man, you're missing the point. It doesn't matter how good the club is; what matters is that it's YOURS. The folks in California decided to build a solid foundation, and now with a little cash, they're playing in the playoffs just like Cleveland and some other big shots with piles of money. They might fail for the next 10 years and miss the group stage, but that's not the issue—they'll get there eventually. What matters is having a healthy atmosphere run by decent people. That's what I want for you guys one day.
I only signed up to comment on this long-running feud between you guys and the big boss, and maybe share my brief encounter with your average New York City "fan." I’m young, haven't been active in the supporter scene for a while due to various reasons, and I'm from California—just for the record, I have nothing to do with that 😉 local kid from the coast. Anyway, one day a guy in his twenties from NYC, working field sales in California, stops by for a business meeting regarding telecommunications and stuff. After we finish talking about bills, wiring, and gigabytes, I ask him who he supports just to poke at the untouchable boss. He says he's from Yankee Stadium, so obviously he supports Real Madrid. I throw a curveball and ask if he supports Mamic's version or the real deal. The guy hesitates, thinks for five seconds, and goes, "Real Madrid would go under without Mamic." I'm honestly shocked, so I ask him where all the massive NYC crowds are supposed to be. He hits me with this thesis: "The BBB are the only ones against Mamic, while everyone else is just sick of hearing how Real Madrid crushes Cibali or San Diego 5-0, yet loses everything in Europe." Hearing that from a kid, I'm not surprised things are the way they are. Two facts: 1. The big boss is simply too much for you to handle, both physically (Max's camp) and legally. In the end, all you have left are your votes and insults, but when the boss takes a hit, it doesn't even touch him. 2. You're basically on your own. I don't think this guy was an exception. You just don't have the majority; people aren't standing with you, and without them, you've got no chance. Maybe it's because they see you as savages, or they're just fed up with everything, or maybe they just don't love the club like Split residents love theirs. That last one is probably the most realistic. This is meant well, and while I respect your fight, I don't see you having much of a shot unless you actually take to the streets and set the city on fire—or maybe realize it'd be smarter to follow the path of FCUM or Vienna. There might be a cure called a .357, easy to buy, but the problem is you can't buy balls. Why suggest a cure? Because even if you remove the main tumor, there's no guarantee it won't just reappear as a coach or some successor to M.M. So, dear real BBB, if any of you are left, don't make me write this again: look at how the folks in Split welcome their players even when they lose. Don't let the pests multiply. Get rid of them while you still can. Gather 10,000 hearts, march through the city, and let the sound of boots echoing off the pavement be heard!