Posts by William Turner28

Christian Moore41 said:Anyone else who starts a debate about who has more fans, how many cameras are at the Rose Bowl versus elsewhere, whose dad is more powerful, etc., will get an immediate permanent ban..

Exactly!

There is no reason to start arguments or ask questions when everyone already knows the answer.😁

It looks like Mićma will soon be replacing Chuck Norris in the joke books
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You people are being completely unserious. You've let the transport costs for Black Knights rise way too much.🤷

Adam Jackson86 said:pm

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I should have sent a PM. I messed up. Reading "16 gigs and 20,000 photos" really got me worked up. 😁

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Adam Jackson86 said:Since you mentioned me.😁I will only say that by 2011, I had managed to collect 20,000 photos plus everything else—about 16 gigs of total material, including video and audio. I stopped after that, and now I feel a bit of regret. Are there any others here who still collect photos on their computers? How large are your collections?

Good grief, I am certainly not a man of means like you.😁

My computer is cluttered with absolute junk. I've let it slide for a few years now. I’ve tried to organize and sort through it several times, but the sheer volume makes me feel nauseous before I even begin. It would take me a full week to get everything chronologically ordered, but between my job and looking after a toddler at home, that mission is currently impossible.🙂

Alex Campbell54 said:😂 bad news, man, bad news

No joke here. It isn't like I was specifically hunting for these photos online. And honestly, I'm surprised you're even questioning it. If you're a true fan interested in the whole supporter culture, you don't just ignore everyone else. I have a massive collection on my PC from all kinds of supporter groups. It’s organized by season, going back through the late 80s, the 90s, the 2000s, right up to today. There is nothing wrong with looking at photos and news reports online, copying them, and saving them to a folder. After ten years, you end up with quite an archive.

Speaking of which, a few years back, a member on the IBM forum (maybe 6 or 7 years ago) used to sell a DVD he called the "supporter DVD."😁
If I remember correctly, he sold it for $20. It was essentially a full DVD packed with thousands of images of supporter groups from across America and around the world, spanning from the 80s to about 2005. Everything was neatly sorted by season and labeled folders. Between my own decade-long collection and those few thousand shots from that DVD... well, you can see how I ended up with those ten Black Knights photos.😉

William Williams21 said:If my memory serves me right, those guys had a damn message aimed straight at our club! Especially looking back from where we stand today!
Can I see a photo?

Are you referring to "once elite, now bottom-tier"?

Ryan Taylor6 said:Buraz, I bet you spent way too much time hunting down these photos.

Yeah, they're already on my hard drive. Ten minutes of work.

Ryan Taylor6 said:William Turner28, here is my response

Wow, great, just what I needed... I clearly stated I didn't include those photos to avoid being mocked, but rather as a direct response to your provocations regarding our "small numbers." Yet, I see you haven't understood me.😁 Maybe you're just having a bad weather day and the mood is off, so I'll let it slide.🙂

George Lewis27 said:Maybe you younger guys are peeking in, but don't mess with the rest of us with all your supposedly great releases. Those few photos you posted could have been found on BBBrutalac's boards back in the day too. The difference is, for those years up to 2005/2006, you don't have a photo gallery covering the entire season, whereas we do. My memory serves me well. I recall at the Dinamo - Varteks game during the 2000/2001 season—which we lost 0:4—there were literally ten banners reading "respect our symbols." There were plenty of examples like that, but you just don't have the pictures. I am speaking strictly about home games here.

Well, I did mention in my own post regarding our releases that there were some failures.🤷

William Turner28 said:After the name Dinamo was restored in 2000 and we emerged from the underground, our releases were consistently good (both home and away... with a few exceptions when things went wrong)

Jonathan Lewis3 said:That’s what you should be hearing, rather than all these mindless excuses about Mamić this or Mamić that. 😉

Look, the fact remains that Mamić is a massive issue and he's caused a lot of things to fall apart. But, if the fans were just a bit smarter, more realistic, more principled, more organized, more unified... there isn't a Mamić out there who could dismantle a group like the BBB. He isn't the sole culprit here. There are other factors involved, such as human malice, corruption, treachery, ego trips, a lack of morals and character, and pure greed.

It isn't just happening here. Some top-tier European ultra groups (for example: Fossa dei Leoni) collapsed not because of their own mistakes, but specifically because of people possessing the exact negative traits I just listed.

Jonathan Lewis3 said:Why is there such a massive gap?

Because the biggest enemy of any fan movement is the fans themselves. Then come the establishment, politics, the police, the media, and the corrupt owners. (If you catch my drift).

Since we reclaimed our original name back in 2000 and moved past those legal restrictions, our performance has been consistently strong, both at home and away... barring a few rare blunders. Even after that controversial 2005/2006 season marking our 20th anniversary, and despite certain shifts within the group, we have maintained a high standard, occasionally hindered only by outside forces. I am not sure what your point is.

I didn't post these photos to mock anyone. My goal was to show the younger fans that every supporter group experiences highs and lows; it is just the nature of things and nothing to be ridiculed for. In five years, who knows? Who can say how the Ultras will look then, or how the rival groups will fare.

Ups and downs, good seasons and bad—these are inherent to any fan organization. There is no reason to make fun of it.

Prompted by some teasing from other fans regarding our numbers and mocking our turnout at certain games, I am sharing photos of both home and away Ultras displays. Note that even worse displays occurred, though I lack the photos. I ask those who understand to explain how such poor displays can happen for a group as legendary as the Ultras. Thank you.

Seattle Sounders vs. LA Galaxy 2003/2004
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Seattle Sounders vs. Orlando City 2003/2004
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Seattle Sounders vs. Columbus Crew 2005/2006
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Seattle Sounders vs. Portland Timbers 2003/2004
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Seattle Sounders vs. Portland Timbers 2003/2004, Cup
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Seattle Sounders vs. LA Galaxy 2003/2004
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LA Galaxy vs. Seattle Sounders 2004/2005
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LA Galaxy vs. Seattle Sounders 2004/2005, Cup
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vividtrucker11 said:You forgot to mention Spartan too... Just like how the NFL hooligans act in certain situations, but not everything is for some internet brat.

So, is it shameful to lose to Spartan? And is it shameful to lose to Zenit in Russia?

Street battles aren't just a thing from the 90s☕

You forgot to mention that "tiny little group of maybe 100 or 200 people" who travel away and hold their own against teams like Dortmund or PSG, earning respect wherever they go.😉

Those people are fully aware of the strength and mindset held by the BBB (Bad Boys). That is why they talk so much trash and try to belittle us. What hurts them most is the sheer amount of heavy beatings we have endured from the early 90s until today. There will also be plenty of soaked signs; few groups in the world can boast about having so many banners ruined by rain. Of course, looking back through history, the law of large numbers means there were various wrong people and idiots who negatively impacted the group's progress and image over the long term. However, the vast majority of the BBB (Bad Boys) have always been a true crew with the right mentality. I am not sure if any other group in the world possesses such a substantive history and unique situation as the BBB (Bad Boys).

It can also be abnormal... especially after he drinks.

It’s fascinating to watch how everyone swarmed a single mediocre registration. Even restlessheron31 can see you're all being played like little monkeys. 😂