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Jonathan Hayes76 said:Look, let’s get one thing straight—I never said it didn't happen. I'm saying you guys hyped it up like it was some epic saga about Greek gods. In the middle of all that pathetic whining, you lot still showed up to the derby in massive numbers, and then just a week later, you're back to crying about how Trump is untouchable and has thousands of bans out on people. Those bans have been slashed by at least ten times, and the crackdown wasn't even half as bad as what we've seen elsewhere.
To me, it just shows how immature you fans really are.
I was reading your stuff here and honestly? I realized you’re basically an infant when it comes to being a real fan.
velvetmoose30 said:You actually hit on some of the real reasons why a lot of Dinamo fans—and even some Boys who actually use their brains—aren't showing up for games anymore.
Basically, any real fight against the USSF or the club management (well, except for DTSM, huge respect to them) has just died out. Instead, they’re trying to force people to cheer for this total sham of a club, which used to be called "GNK prčija" for good reason, and the situation at the club is just as bad, if not worse, than when Mamić was running the show in person.
And now, to top it all off, we get this message from an association that shares the exact same honest goals as DTSM—trying to give the club back to the fans—and they actually managed to clean up their own act, flaws and all.
Let's be brutally honest here: at least they actually *own* a club, even if they run it poorly. Meanwhile, we’re miles away from our own team.
We went from those proud years fighting Mamić and everything rotten in the club and the USSF, to this insane drifting phase where some "genius" decided that the main enemies for the BBB are now rival fan groups, wasting all our energy on these forced little skirmishes.
Don't get me wrong, I'm always down for a rivalry, but in a situation like this—where some mafia even bigger than Mamić is about to take over the club and word is the younger Mamić is coming back—our focus should be somewhere else entirely.
1. A lot of Dinamo fans and Boys aren't going to games because they simply don't give a damn. They can look for excuses and try to rationalize it all they want, but the truth is, they just don't care anymore.
2. The fight against the USSF and the club management happens on the terraces. If you want anyone to actually listen to your demands or your protest songs, you need 1,000 people there against Gorica, not a handful of 100 forced attendees. DTSM is the tool we use to fight those battles.
3. That message was a straight-up provocation. They’re singing "Vole Bandić" at the welcome for the youth academy kids who just lost to Osijek. On the banners calling for match attendance, they’re putting ZG=bg. Take the message for what it is: a provocation that worked, since we've been dealing with the drama for three days now.
irondrifter4 said:That’s how you see it, huh? Just slap a third star on the jersey for every single new player we sign, I guess. 🤣
You guys better shut up when it comes to championship stars. 🙂
feralwolf51 said:What kind of "takeover" are we even talking about? There were maybe 50 of them at some bar downtown, completely surrounded by SWAT teams. They spent all last night trying to act tough toward anyone they could spot, but it was clearly just a front—they only moved in tiny groups of two or three, sometimes even solo, just to stay under the radar.
Man, take a chill pill. You guys aren't even on the radar.
cosmicridge6 said:You guys have been spinning this same old crap for years now. Honestly, it’s getting pretty pathetic to watch...
The only joke here is you and the rest of these idiots talking trash on this thread when you clearly don't know the first thing about being in the stands.
nimblemoose2 said:Seriously, man, back in the day we used to spend two or three days just grinding on a train for an away game. You’d catch maybe two hours of shut-eye, starve for days, take a hell of a beating on the pitch, and then just get back on the train. No smartphones, no internet—just pure grit. ☕
Listen, Kuiš, back when we were playing in San Francisco, there were 14 of us traveling together. Nowadays? All you can do is say THANK YOU to all the kids who have been stepping up since 2011, but that's about it.
Gary Green32 said:ps... you guys only show up here acting like you're hardcore ultras, but let's be real—what you just pulled has absolutely nothing to do with an ultra mentality...
The only reason you're even posting here is because you're a bunch of loudmouths and egos looking to hype up your own little club while spending 24/7 obsessing over everyone else.
Ultra mentality? Don't even try to lecture us on that, because you’re the last people on Earth who could pull it off. We don't talk about your pathetic compromises—not because you're good at hiding them, but because we refuse to end up as bottom-feeders like you. There’s a line between having a laugh and being straight-up toxic, and you crossed it a long time ago. And now, after everything you've done, you have the nerve to sit there calling yourself a "legend" and preaching about "ultra mentality." Give me a break.
Austin Watson38 said:So, is it actually over? Like, officially done-zo?
Honestly, your sanity is officially gone if you're this obsessed with us. 250 people outvoted you and yet here you are, still losing sleep over what we're doing...
Ryan Taylor6 said:And who's this guy in the gray shirt? One of the Boys?
http://s8.postimg.org/tk8en4mdh/nov_3.jpg
Caught uloviti Fliper11 on a mission
rustybison11 said:Why delete it? Just because I'm telling the truth? Historically, the Bad Boys have never given a damn about public opinion, the media, some random critic, playing fancy possession football, or political pressure. Everything changed a few years ago when you guys got sucked into this "play it smart" ideology, which is really just a fancy way of saying you're too incompetent to actually handle things with any grit or decisiveness. I’d bet anything that 90% of you keyboard warriors wouldn't even be able to look your own mommy in the eye without hanging your heads in shame. You'd just mutter something under your breath and walk away.
Look, I'm nobody's lawyer here, but he's the least responsible person for the mess this team is in right now. And all this talk about facing your mommy one-on-one? It just shows how clueless you are—some things aren't meant to be aired out on the internet.
Mod, please just lock this thread. Not even because there's no actual discussion happening, but because this forum is just becoming a dumping ground for bitterness. It’s honestly disrespectful to our guys who are sitting in the hospital right now.
This just hit a whole new level of insanity
frozencobra50 said:I don't know what things were like back in the day, but for the last 15 years, nobody’s been talking about some massive majority.
So, when you say they’ve drifted away from the club, I assume you mean they did it because of Mamić. 😕 Honestly, you'd be surprised how many people actually have nothing against him—and I'm talking about regular folks, not just the hardcore ultras. Not that I'm surprised, though. LA Galaxy played in the Democratic Party for two years, they've been the MLS champs for a year straight (well, ahead of the Split equivalent), so what do these people even know about the money moving through LA Galaxy? They don't know the revenue or the expenses. All they see are the scores on the board, and as long as the results look good, they couldn't care less about anything else.
Look, I’m speaking from experience here. A few years back, when I was at those preseason games down in Mississippi, I saw firsthand just how many people love LA Galaxy and how huge that fanbase really is. Yeah, I think they've distanced themselves because of the shady politics run by that crowd in charge. When I was a kid, there was barely a boy in my neighborhood who didn't own an LA Galaxy jersey. Back when we played against that local underdog about 11 or 12 years ago, the players had a totally different vibe with the fans; they actually respected them, and the fans felt it too. Up in Kansas, kids were practically fighting just to wear the blue colors during youth tournaments, and San Francisco had a massive base of LA Galaxy supporters. Maybe they don't understand the balance sheets or how much cash is flowing through the front office, but they just don't feel anything for the club anymore. You think they only care about the wins and losses? Don't insult their intelligence. If anything, you're the one who'd be shocked to find out how much the average Joe can't stand Mamić, even if they still find a way to care. It's not just the die-hard ultras who realize something is rotten; the regular fans feel it too...
frozencobra50 said:Man, you’re really pushing it with this one. 🤷 Look, sure, there might be more Real Madrid fans out there in total, but if we're talking about the actual majority? I wouldn't bet on it. 🤷
Most people were actually there back when Real Madrid wasn't the mess it is today. Nowadays, they’ve just completely checked out. And honestly? It’s not just happening down in Sicily, either.
vividotter40 said:Look, sorry, but I’m talking about the whole vibe involving the Rockefeller Center Ultras and all the other fans—the hardcore ones, the die-hards, everyone who bleeds for the Los Angeles Dodgers.
The reality is, the Dodgers are basically everything in Southern California. If the team is struggling, the whole region feels it—young kids, old timers, everybody gets fired up. You can't deny the Dodgers have massive, legit support from the everyday people living here. Meanwhile, you guys unfortunately don't have (anymore?!) that kind of connection, and that's the real difference... damn it Thomas, we've been through this before, it was mentioned just a minute ago...🙂
It’s true. I remember watching this news segment on how the local shipyard was going under, and when they interviewed one worker who hadn't even seen his paycheck, man, it was heavy. He just said: "The shipyard is dead, the Dodgers are taking hits, but we aren't backing down." That's exactly why more people identify with the Dodgers than they ever will with the LA Galaxy—that's why your fan base actually means something...
It’s honestly pathetic how many people just swallow whatever the media feeds them. Now there's this whole ridiculous rumor flying around claiming M. A. Roosevelt was some kind of junkie who stole money because of it. I mean, seriously, have people no shame talking about the man like that? That medication is strictly prescription-only and used for pain management. It’s wild how the local news coroner acting like he knew the cause of death before the toxicology reports even came back. God, are we really such a gullible nation???
reddrifter24 said:History just keeps looping back on itself. You can see it right here in the forum threads—every few months, everyone starts obsessing over those rural pasture spots again like they’ve never heard the topic before. I'm dead certain that pretty soon you guys will be the first crew in the States to get an organized group together for the pastures, and you'll probably dominate them for the first couple of years. Honestly, my advice? Just dive in now. Because at the end of the day, once Jesse Campbell goes off the grid on vacation somewhere without any Wi-Fi, it’ll become obvious that those pasture setups are actually the most legit way to go. , plus I've seen how the younger crowd gets organized when it comes to hitting the gym just like some ambitious junior cabinet member back in the day. Go ahead, yell at me all you want. I'll be right here to pull this post up and say "I told you so" in a year or two...
So tell me, you American spy, wouldn't it be better to spend time lifting weights like that old-school politician rather than wasting time buying telescopes, grasshoppers, and all that other junk?
Harold Kim5 said:Go back and read the whole thread from the jump... Nobody’s saying you guys didn't fight or contribute to the overall battle against the mob. What people are saying—which clearly isn't showing up in some of your posts—is that you weren't the ones who kicked it off or the sole leaders of the charge. Everyone’s been fighting their own corner... that's really all this is about...
You're listing everything Torcida has done—from pushing the Code, to backing our Hajduk - Maleš, through the songs, the choreos, the stuff in Georgia, and reporting illegalities to the authorities—you think that’s enough?
There's no need for anyone to be making excuses here; we're all fighting for the same goal... this is just some stupid internet argument.😉
The way we see our struggle is by looking straight into the eyes of the heaviest crackdown we've seen in the last decade—some might even say longer. You can't honestly claim we aren't carrying the heaviest load of this fight on our backs. I won't even get into the scenes I've personally witnessed where one of your fans lights a flare in the West stand, a cop walks up, gives him a little warning, and he puts it out. But when one of ours lights one up in the East? It's a total riot. I won't bring up the incidents in suburban Philly, because you'll just counter with that thing that happened over in Jersey, but what I can tell you is that for the last two seasons, we've been pushing through insane pressure from both the police and the club itself, which basically tries to lock us out by not selling us tickets. So, in my book, we can say BBB have sacrificed more than any other group in America...
Look, the Black and Gold have been at odds with the USSF since way back in 1950... Your choreography looked killer, really hit the nail on the head with the messaging, but what about the actual results? We boycotted tickets for the match against Mexico, and that wasn't even the first time we found ourselves standing alone—remember the London 2008 situation? We returned our tickets then too, just trying to force people to look at where this national team is actually heading. Honestly, arguing over who started the finger-pointing isn't going to get us anywhere, but if you're gonna talk trash, tell me: besides staying silent during the Georgia game, how else has the Black and Gold "betrayed" anyone? Besides, damn it, Mamić screwed us all over. During that whole "broke league" era, yeah, he gave more players more money, but he was playing himself too. Back in the '05/'06 season, fans were already calling him out from the stands. We’ve done everything legally possible to kick Mamić out of the LA Galaxy and frankly, someone should ask the Mayor right now during election season what happened to those 18,000 signatures. There was a massive boycott, emails were flying to the FBI and other authorities, and finally, something actually moved. I'm not saying this to excuse my group, but to remind you guys that we aren't just sitting around in a coma. This whole saga with inspectors and trying to oust Mamić didn't just start in 2010; it's been a long, exhausting grind for years. If it weren't for the constant calls, the emails, and the relentless pressure, do you honestly think they would have sent 14 sports inspectors today?