Posts by Sean Doyle97

heh, definitely not Black Flag.

Taylor Vaughn13 said:I haven't spent a ton of time digging into them—to be honest, the A-side of my War is pretty impressive, but the B-side? Boring as hell. Still trying to wrap my head around it, hopefully I'll get it one day.

hehe, personally I think the B-side is the perfect bridge to HC stuff—all that sludge and grit... man, it actually gives me chills when I listen. And "Loos Nut" might just be their best track, hands down.

btw, I feel like Die Kreuzen sounds most like proto-grunge right after that killer self-titled album—anything they did after that just wasn't really my vibe.

Hey, thanks for moving this to the thread—and sorry about that, heh. Look, people call my War "proto-grunge" (like they do with Flipper, etc.), or "proto-math" (Side A), or "proto-sludge" (Side B)... whatever. The point is, none of those genres really hit me the way this album does. To me, my War was where they actually shifted the musical needle, which is why it’s such a massive influence, even if nothing else sounds remotely like it. But hey, that was my first exposure to them, so it stuck. Obviously, no two people hear a band the same way 😉. It’s also interesting how Rorschach, building on that Black Flag legacy from the nineties, crafted a tighter, darker HC sound and slowly worked metal into it—which basically paved the way for Converge. That’s where the modern HC and metalcore sound starts, which isn't really my thing, but I just want to emphasize how insanely influential and powerful this record is. Everyone interprets it differently. They were even buddies with Saint Vitus, who lean more toward traditional doom, which tracks with where that heavy sound started. Personally, I find Damaged a bit tedious, but I respect it because it was vital for the band's evolution. BTW, that 1982 demo is killer—just discovered it recently thanks to the internet. It didn't drop back then due to some label issues, so it's like this lost link between Damaged and their later stuff. It's got two guitars on there... anyway, Black Flag isn't for everyone, and not every era is for everyone.

I don't care about the money—if musicians genuinely love a band so much they just can't pass up a chance to do something like this, then I'm all for it. Though, honestly, I don't usually pay much attention to tribute acts. On one hand, maybe it’s more honorable than just ripping off someone else's music to push their own stuff, heh.

Looks like there are still some of us here who dig this band, so let's go—hope I'm not repeating an old thread.

I’ve been spinning them since the eighties when some guy who served in the military taped a live set for me. Honestly, this band is one of the most important ever; they might be underground, but you can hear their influence all over modern music. They were pioneers of the Hardcore sound, and easily the rawest, toughest of the early American scene. Once Greg Ginn started developing that unique guitar style, they basically laid the groundwork for tons of genres—even modern stuff owes them a huge debt. Plenty of musicians who eventually hit the mainstream rock scene cite them as idols, too. Most importantly, they always sounded like themselves. Great lyrics, too—none of that preaching or moralizing bullshit, just real feelings to the max. That early Hardcore phase is killer, though personally, Damaged isn't as intense for me; feels more like a bridge to my War, which is hands down my favorite. I could write a book about that album, heh, but whatever. I'd also mention Loos Nut—further from those Hardcore roots, sure, but still convincing. Slip It In and In My Head are solid, even if they aren't quite as aggressive, and Family Man might be a bit much for my taste.
If I had to pick one band that pushed that specific playing style as far as Black Flag did, it’s gotta be Bl'ast! Also out of eighties California, staying true to the Greg Ginn school of thought, but strictly for people who actually appreciate that unique, standalone style. To me, the Henry Rollins Band wasn't that heavy—Greg kept playing his way, obviously, but that magic Black Flag had for those in the know? Unrepeatable.
etc.

Not really feeling this little teaser for the upcoming Septic Scum LP

http://www.dislikecore.com/

Just more of that same old guitar shredding—nothing new there.

Growling actually kicked off with those 80s grindcore bands—way before death metal even became its own thing. It was all about that musical radicalization, blending punk hardcore, crossover, and early extreme metal just to smash through barriers. The whole point was to create something impossible to package as some radio-friendly pop hit—you know, a way to reflect what I’d call the harsh reality. Eventually, death metal snatched it up and integrated it perfectly into that dark sound. Nowadays, even grind and especially growls have been totally commercialized, so they don't really serve that same purpose anymore. Still, I love hearing it—that much is true—though whether a band uses growls or not doesn't mean much to me personally these days. It’s all about the total package. Solid serum from True.

If we're going with the automatic stuff, these are easily the best ones out there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZLJagdt7rk

Pure goregrind perfection. 👍

In my book, this is the best Napalm Death "Hatred Surge" demo out there—they aren't even playing fast here, but they are brutally dark as hell. You’ve got Broderick on guitar (post-Godflesh era), so it’s honestly no surprise it sounds this heavy. This specific lineup actually recorded the "From Enslavement to Obliteration" demo too, where you can already hear a much more defined grind sound, plus the first side of "Scum." The feta LP features a different lineup, which most people consider the classic era. There was an EV band that was supposed to do a split with ND (on the first side of "Scum"), but apparently, they weren't feeling the cult following surrounding ND back then, heh. This track is from their demo; they eventually put out some standalone vinyls—fucking Atavistic - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdWZEozbOXE

Here’s a few of my favorites—pure speed and brutality, old-school raw hardcore punk thrash style...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8pCpDE8V_I Septic Death

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbonCWucP2k Inzest

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XO0JOXuIHSQ Lärm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-ab_zdpLWs Asocial

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjml8-bw4yI negative FX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RnoqXFNc6M Ultra Violent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9A0znXxh_k Death Sentence

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfiEZLrHWBY Black Flag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkuLh7qzcoA Kirous

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc566TMoM4A Intense Degree

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIMI2W7p0Ys Siege

and so on, and so on. Personally, I'm already starting to lean toward grindcore at this point.

Bradley Collins46 said:So basically, I can just grab some kitchen appliances, use them to make some noise, throw together some mindless lyrics, and boom—I've got a song.

Exactly. Doesn't matter how you do it, as long as it sounds good—that's what I'm listening to.